Mustard Tiger Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Give Miller the company credit card tonight. Tell him to treat himself. If he buys a house and wants to stay... well gosh I guess that's what has to happen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Lasso Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 12 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Because Seravelli thinks so? Frank plays darts with his predictions just like every Friedman, Eklund and the like. His first three words say it all… ”I don’t know” 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 16 minutes ago, Chickenspear said: It's not just one factor that sees us giving up possession on the powerplay though. It's a combination of being predictable, compounded by poor execution. We were talking specifically about millers giveaways, overall, not just pp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickenspear Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, stawns said: We were talking specifically about millers giveaways, overall, not just pp Ahh, my bad. Yeah, he's been making some poor decisions 5v5 this year. I think Bieksa said it best about his on ice effort. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Dizzle Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 8 minutes ago, Chickenspear said: Ahh, my bad. Yeah, he's been making some poor decisions 5v5 this year. I think Bieksa said it best about his on ice effort. He’s been making poor decisions 5v5 for a few years…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
combover Posted January 10, 2023 Author Share Posted January 10, 2023 43 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Because Seravelli thinks so? Frank plays darts with his predictions just like every Friedman, Eklund and the like. These guys just post/say the obvious then make it a bit worse. miller value is low we all knew that is it need a sweetener low no. but his play and character haven’t exactly made him look like a bargain at 8 mill till hes 37. i don’t think the return would be much if he was miraculously moved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyG Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 1 hour ago, stawns said: It's not the play that's the problem, it's millers lazy, sloppy execution of it.......or lack thereof. There's not really much point trying to defend it, we've all see him do it over and over again. You played hockey correct? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Curse Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 4 teams in interested? not according to Frankie S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 9 minutes ago, AnthonyG said: You played hockey correct? Yup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyG Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 13 minutes ago, stawns said: Yup Then you should know… skating forward and passing backwards = slow pass Not only that, but its a behind the back, blind pass to a general area of where QH is going to be on that set play. Its not the execution or effort level its a terrible set play by our PP coaches. IF he can put some zest on that blind back pass, he risks putting it out of the zone if its not deadly accurate. We all know that blind passes arent thsy accurate and typically wind up in a general area of where a player can retrieve it. That play is on the coaching staff, not Miller. If it was on him, he wouldnt keep making that play and having it picked off. Hes doing what hes being told to do and it doesnt work that great and is way too high risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sxqhfeh Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Tortorella likes JT, from their time in New York, makes for a good fit, so Miller for Provorov straight up? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 1 hour ago, J-Dizzle said: He’s been making poor decisions 5v5 for a few years…. Ever since he made the league. He's a floater and lazy as hell. The only worse decision was signing him to a death contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 I would love to move on from JT. I was of the mind last summer that you had to re-sign him. I regret that notion. I dont know though if Jim and Patrick are willing to take an L on this. Trading Miller would admit publically (although its already consensus is already around the NHL world that they made the wrong choice) they made the wrong move and have to lose value on him. As much as I want JT gone, I don't think this management are willing to admit they were wrong. Seems like too many egos in the head office and ownership to right the wrong. I would think too with JT's sizeable extension, that adding assets would not be in the organization's appetite to do so to move him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Vanderhoek Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 2 hours ago, aGENT said: I'm concerned they still think keeping him is the right plan... IMO it wasn't/isn't. We really just need some bloody clarity as to what they're planning on doing. So far it's been largely tinkering around the edges, which also IMO, isn't going to cut it. The entire fanbase (and it looks like roster) seems to be waiting for SOMETHING to happen. Some sort of direction. I thought moving Miller for that rumored Lundkvist, Chytil, 1st package was a no brainer trade for the team. Will never know if that was a legit option but was also pleased to see the team sign him as still feeling trauma after the Free Agency exodus when the team did well in the " bubble ". That all said now it is going to be such a shame to see Horvat potentially move on, but as the days go by it becomes clearer to me. Keep Petey, keep Hughes and move out other players in the 26 yrs old or older range for futures and cap space. That is entirely possible and plausible. The team needs to stop pretending the overall club is better than it is, the individual players are better then shown as a team but its time to make some moves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 52 minutes ago, sxqhfeh said: Tortorella likes JT, from their time in New York, makes for a good fit, so Miller for Provorov straight up? Does Torts not like Provorov? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 29 minutes ago, Mike Vanderhoek said: I thought moving Miller for that rumored Lundkvist, Chytil, 1st package was a no brainer trade for the team. Will never know if that was a legit option but was also pleased to see the team sign him as still feeling trauma after the Free Agency exodus when the team did well in the " bubble ". Same. And use the added cap space to move Rathbone + for Marino and we'd have been further ahead than where we are now IMO. Likely would have been able to nail down a Horvat extension for closer to $7m in the summer too. Probably could have got something like the 1st+ deal for Lundkvist too if they didn't feel he was a fit. And that's while also believing Miller's extension to be a solid, below market deal. Just a wrong fit with this club's timeline. 29 minutes ago, Mike Vanderhoek said: That all said now it is going to be such a shame to see Horvat potentially move on, but as the days go by it becomes clearer to me. Keep Petey, keep Hughes and move out other players in the 26 yrs old or older range for futures and cap space. That is entirely possible and plausible. Yup, damn shame if all this costs us Horvat too. But it is what it is and it can still spell forward progress if they nail the TDL return. So you think they're going to move Miller? I'm hopeful, but I'm far from confident. 29 minutes ago, Mike Vanderhoek said: The team needs to stop pretending the overall club is better than it is, the individual players are better then shown as a team but its time to make some moves. Yup again, as I've said elsewhere, we don't have a huge talent deficit (minus the obvious holes at 3C/RHD), we have a fit/chemistry/complementary pieces/identity issue. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 NHL teams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyGuy123 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 Deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sxqhfeh Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Alflives said: Does Torts not like Provorov? NHL Trade Rumors: Philadelphia Flyers reportedly checking market for Ivan Provorov trade - Broad Street Hockey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 23 hours ago, Coconuts said: Bo's no Kesler but he holds his own and he's one of the best faceoff guys in the league, which is no small thing from a possession standpoint He's a legit 2C on a top team, a 1C on a lesser team Are the Canucks not considered a lesser team? Otherwise we are talking a select few teams where Bo is a #1, how much can you pay a guy that is a #2 on a meh team like Vancouver...When #1 EP is going to sign for 9-12m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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