HKSR Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 1 hour ago, coho8888 said: According to Cap Friendly, We would only have to move Boeser: Assuming that Poolman, Pearson and Demko are back from their injuries and that we sign both Bear and Hogs to modest raises. I may be a bit off on the calcs so feel free to critique. Yeah, I included Myers as well to give the team greater cap flexibility. We could probably retain $2M on Myers and move him quite easily with plenty of cap space remaining. Brock and Myers are they key to re-signing Bo (if that's what management wants to do). 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Also a lot of ppl need to apologize for calling Milstien a parasite. He's my fav agent we've dealt with so far. Fair deal for both sides. Easy to work with. I hope his business prospers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
combover Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Great deal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad_BOI_pete Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 5 minutes ago, Warhippy said: Im pretty sure looking at the last 8.5 years of management decisions any number of people here could do a comparable job of spending to the cap and drafting in the top 10 consistently yeah... we would do just as bad.... and then probably would make even worse decisions and be fired the day after trade deadline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 1 hour ago, aGENT said: May very well. But then we're getting back in to bringing back the exact same team that's looked like shite, not addressing the prospect pool, etc, etc. Nope. Yup. Feel free to go through all the teams on CapFriendly. 7D is the norm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 8 minutes ago, BC_Hawk said: 1000%; my exact thoughts. Its not about individual signings anymore, its about how they fit into or inhibit a rebuild; this isn't a simple retool. … and the question is, are we likely to be good or contend in the next two years for this contract? If not, then are we better off at the end of the two years with a 29 year old expiring Kuzmenko contract who is a UFA and helped us score a little more while still not being a playoff team, or some blue chip prospect/high pick still under club control that we could have gotten for him in return? If management has some more aces up their sleeves for moving out $10-15 million in cap to make room to fix a dreadful defence… that by all means do it. We could be a much better team with two top four D that complement Hughes and OEL, we haven’t been able to do any of that to date. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Great re-signing! Next step - get returns from Bo, hoping RD + High pick Pearson - off book after this season. Broser - try to trade him before deadline. Miller - difficulty to get rid of him for such a high cap and bad performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustard Tiger Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 36 minutes ago, Sharpshooter said: I wouldn’t retain. But, I would wait till Trade Deadline to move him in order to maximize the return. Dallas is one team who really wants and needs a 2RW. If they get priced out on other guys and just want to essentially swap out their dead cap for boeser I hope we are all over it. Khudobin + so the money works. I also do not want to retain anything but I'll gladly take back expiring dead weight 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 18 minutes ago, hammertime said: So what worse contract are we taking back? Dude Brocks 6.65m is nuclear waste. $100 says be scores 30 in his first full season wherever he ends up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goal:thecup Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Warhippy said: It is hard to be mad at this signing. It's great cap. It's great term. Makes him incredibly easy to move and valuable if we wanted to move him. But it's hard not to be a little frustrated looking at this management group looking at our core and saying well, it hasn't worked for 5 years. So let's try doing the same thing and hope for a different result. Kuzmenko was found money and as such was an incredibly valuable trade asset. It's more and more apparent that management is just going to to do what Benning did and tinker and hope for the best while managing to barely stay mediocre I'm not giving up on them yet, but I'm hanging off the cliff by my fingernails; TDL cannot come soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, HKSR said: Yup. Feel free to go through all the teams on CapFriendly. 7D is the norm. No, it isn't. A bunch of teams may have injuries right now (and a lack of bodies and/or cap space to accommodate replacements) but when building out starting rosters in the fall, most teams go 13F, 8 D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad_BOI_pete Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, HKSR said: Yeah, I included Myers as well to give the team greater cap flexibility. We could probably retain $2M on Myers and move him quite easily with plenty of cap space remaining. Brock and Myers are they key to re-signing Bo (if that's what management wants to do). the more i look at it, the more i realize we are doomed next year.... 10 million cap to replace boeser, myers, bear, schenn and horvat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 5 minutes ago, Provost said: … and the question is, are we likely to be good or contend in the next two years for this contract? If not, then are we better off at the end of the two years with a 29 year old expiring Kuzmenko contract who is a UFA and helped us score a little more while still not being a playoff team, or some blue chip prospect/high pick still under club control that we could have gotten for him in return? If management has some more aces up their sleeves for moving out $10-15 million in cap to make room to fix a dreadful defence… that by all means do it. We could be a much better team with two top four D that complement Hughes and OEL, we haven’t been able to do any of that to date. If he helps us, even a little, to extend Petey this summer, it will be more than worth it. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
komodo0921 Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Solid signing. Works for both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustard Tiger Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 1 minute ago, tas said: $100 says be scores 30 in his first full season wherever he ends up. I agree he probably would. He's a total floater who only benefits from other guys efforts. Well we don't really even have the guys to do that and set him up for success... So on a good teams that's the perfect roll for him. Plus it's a MASSIVE addition by subtraction for us. Win win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erkayloomeh Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 3 hours ago, Devron said: Or there will be surprises. I think something is going to happen that no one predicted Yes. My first thought was bye bye Boeser. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 9 minutes ago, BarnBurner said: I say no. Don't want Jones. I understand, because it's kinda Benning thing. Trading short term cap space for longer term cap space.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 7 minutes ago, Bad_BOI_pete said: yeah... we would do just as bad.... and then probably would make even worse decisions and be fired the day after trade deadline Actually if you look at much if our consensus takes on signings, draft picks etc. We'd have universally done an equal or better job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad_BOI_pete Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 7 minutes ago, HKSR said: Yup. Feel free to go through all the teams on CapFriendly. 7D is the norm. Yea, I will have to agree with you on that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Goal:thecup said: I'm not giving up on them yet, but I'm hanging off the cliff by my fingernails; TDL cannot come soon enough. As long as they don't start buying out players as opposed of retaining on them then it may actually not be too bad. But I'm still white knuckling things right now Edited January 26, 2023 by Warhippy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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