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anyways this is only a good thing.. forcing people to believe a certain way is backwards... you can disagree all you want, thats your right... just like its these boys right to not want to wear a rainbow in support of something...

 

they can respect the message, but i believe its the flag that bothers them... hence removing the rainbow and keeping the message.

 

Like I said earlier in this thread... You cannot force an ideology down someone's throat... which is exactly what this is...

 

i have given you evidence why forcing this ideology on to people wont work... I have given you evidence on why shaming these people that do not agree with your ideology, does not work...

 

How do you plan on achieving this idealic state? Jail? deportation? because shame is not working.... which i hate to say.... but i told you so.

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14 minutes ago, DeNiro said:

Painfully obvious to people who have a limited view of the world and box everything into liberal and conservative issues sure.

 insulting my intelligence, how quaint... i would say you are in the vast minority in thinking this is not an political or idealistic view of thinking....

 

anyways... forcing idealistic views on people when has that ever gone wrong in history.....

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6 hours ago, Master Mind said:

Those are not strawman arguments, they're relatable comparisons since we can make those choices.

 

Correct it starts with Provorov, but no other team cancels if there weren't people calling for him to be banned from the league. Any player has the right to refuse to wear any jersey. Fans also have the right to criticize the player for it.

 

But when the criticisms go too far, it does more harm than good, and hurts the cause. That is a direct consequence of the actions of outraged fans. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Catchy non sequitur

 

It doesnt necessarily follow that if NHL teams change their pride jersey nights following the incident/outrage with IP, that NHL teams having pride jerseys is going to more harmful/less likely in the end.

 

This could simply be an uneven back and forth on the issue, not necessarily a road paved to hell.

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@DeNiro @Shayster007 i apologize i assumed we were having a civil conversation before i entered... if you were getting triggered because of some obvious hate... which i agree know that was homophobic... i understand why you may have been using these words... my apologies...

 

I want you to know, i hope the best for the pride movement... just dont think it can be forced onto anyone

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7 minutes ago, Shayster007 said:

The only people being called bigots are people who said stuff like this. Rightfully so.

 

Again, not including the entire context.

 

It's OK, I get it. This lgbtq thing is new. Within the last few years. Before they were just called homosexuals.

 

That's clearly what I meant. This force it down your throat movement is the bane of our society. Pushing it on our children, every new tv show has dudes making out. 

 

Nobody wants to see that. 

 

Sports is supposed to be a release from all that media pushing stuff and political garbage but now its everywhere. 

 

 

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anyways... tempers are raised... im not even get started... i have stated enough of my arguments in this thread... no need for me to participate on a day like this..

 

as for some of you being very clearly sending a message of intolerance the LGBTQ and sending bad vibes.... I will give the same treatment that i always do to people that are toxic.... these homophobic remarks do not belong on this thread....

 

the thought of gay marriage is also a ideal, made by man.... written thousands of years ago...  when families needed several children to populate the world... which is no longer the case and is an antiquated thought... 

 

it may be a problem if homosexuality continues to becomes much more popular... currnetly 10% of Gen Z identify as LGBTQ... and historically they have very few children

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4 minutes ago, BlakeQuinnAndEggs said:

Again, not including the entire context.

 

It's OK, I get it. This lgbtq thing is new. Within the last few years. Before they were just called homosexuals.

 

That's clearly what I meant. This force it down your throat movement is the bane of our society. Pushing it on our children, every new tv show has dudes making out. 

 

Nobody wants to see that. 

 

Sports is supposed to be a release from all that media pushing stuff and political garbage but now its everywhere. 

 

 

I have no issue with two men making out on tv... i will change the channel if its over bearing ...

 

also i guess that gay or bi-sexual men probably enjoy it. i'm guessing some women might even like it too.

 

it seems companies support these movements because it cheap advertising... make no mistake... in a capitalist world its always about the money... 

Political movements are here to stay and will only increase in volume....

 

but forcing support i dont agree with... anyways its your dollar.. spend it how you want

 

 

 

 

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14 minutes ago, BlakeQuinnAndEggs said:

Again, not including the entire context.

 

It's OK, I get it. This lgbtq thing is new. Within the last few years. Before they were just called homosexuals.

 

That's clearly what I meant. This force it down your throat movement is the bane of our society. Pushing it on our children, every new tv show has dudes making out. 

 

Nobody wants to see that. 

 

Sports is supposed to be a release from all that media pushing stuff and political garbage but now its everywhere. 

 

 

Maybe before ‘80 gay people were referred to as homosexual, but isn’t it around the 80’s people started using the word gay instead?  One of my nephews (RIP. AIDS got him) was gay. It’s a long time ago but if I remember right we referred to him as gay. 

He often came to th3 farm to help, especially in the summer (he was a kid in college). He sure loved working from on a horse. I remember, while we were working a lower pasture fence, he told me he was gay.  The next day his boyfriend came out and worked the rest of the summer. I loved those two boys, and miss them.  Makes no sense there are persons who believe it’s okay to discriminate against gay people. Or refer to them as “those people”.  

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21 minutes ago, BlakeQuinnAndEggs said:

Again, not including the entire context.

 

It's OK, I get it. This lgbtq thing is new. Within the last few years. Before they were just called homosexuals.

 

That's clearly what I meant. This force it down your throat movement is the bane of our society. Pushing it on our children, every new tv show has dudes making out. 

 

Nobody wants to see that. 

 

Sports is supposed to be a release from all that media pushing stuff and political garbage but now its everywhere. 

 

 

you could say the the same thing during the lead up to/during the civil rights movement.

 

you could say the same thing about the history of women’s rights.  

 

Often people ignorant regarding the fallibility of their beliefs use phrases like “forced” and “pushing it”.

 

The on-going legalization of gay marriage often reflects similar sentiment.

 

“Forcing beliefs” itself is a misnomer.  Educating people about the diversity of people within society predicated on fundamental normative concepts of equality and fairness isnt brainwashing.  These are carefully considered positions based on the values listed above.  These positions rationally stand on their own.

 

As such sports arnt distinct from being a part of society nor is it over bearing to celebrate one of the many aspects of our communities 1 day a year.

 

 

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