NickTheGreek Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 By NHL standards, he's just a terrible terrible hockey player. Trade him for a bag of expired milk and call it a day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glug Datt Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 On 2/11/2019 at 8:50 PM, Kanukfanatic said: I have been watching Gudbranson very closely for the last number of games. Like I said in tonight's GDT, I LOVE the IDEA of Guddy. A big mean D man who can punish the other team. But unfortunately I have come to realize he does not do this in real life, or rarely. His skating is so poor for the NHL level that his slow skating does not allow him to close on fore checkers fast enough to hit them hard without getting a late hit penalty. Watch Motte. He weighs 50 pounds less than Guddy and doles out more punishment. His passing is below average. I finally have come to the conclusion he needs to go. JB needs to search for another big mean D man that can play a #6 D position while doling out some pain. Guddy is not that guy. Trade him if possible. I've been trying to avoid watching him for the last few weeks because I was afraid of what I'd see.. I was always on the Gud bandwagon because of what he brings to the team.. however.. since Ed went down, I can't help noticing his weaknesses.. sigh.. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Smashian Kassian Posted February 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 13, 2019 Interesting points the last few pages. I don't think pairing him with Hughes is the right idea. If Gudbranson was a rock defensively then yes but he isn't. He's not the guy you'd want to be back when Hughes is caught up ice. I like the idea of Hughes & Tanev alot more. I also don't like the idea of having to put Gudbranson with your best Dman (Edler) for him to be competent/effective. I agree Edler is who he's played best with, but still. Troy Stecher has taken a big step this year, he's played very well with Edler in the past & is a better player than Gudbranson at this point. If anyone else is to play with Edler besides Tanev I think Stech is the guy. At this point Guddy's a bottom pair guy, on a playoff team that has a good/reliable #5D to pair him with he might be in the right spot. But that team isn't us right now. And that's not what we brought him here to be. The defense isn't good enough, and that's a problem Gudbranson is currently apart of. You can only move/change so many defenseman, and it won't be Tanev, Edler, Stecher or Hughes. aGent made a great point that you have to replace Gudbranson's muscle, and I agree with someone else who said they'd prefer that out of a FWD. So that should be the move in offseason. Move Gudbranson, then bring in a FWD with some muscle & the best defenseman they can to help this Dcore. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borvat Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 On 2/11/2019 at 9:41 PM, Seinfeld said: Am I the only that would do a Brenden Dillon for Gudbranson swap in a heartbeat? Makes half of his salary too, yeesh. The problem is the Sharks would laugh. I was at the Canuck's and Sharks game. Dillon is way better with the puck than Gudbranson and he played way more aggressive. Dillon was noticeable in a good way. If they could leverage Gudbranson + + to get Huberdeau I am on that wagon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrwipeout Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Heres the thing: Gudbranson is the best defensive Dman nucks have. In front of the own net i cant think of anyone other then edler to match his capacity there. Thats why he is there. I only wish there was some Offensively minded Dman to be by his side. Someone that goes up and down like a squirrel on Coffeine. I think that would work out well. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mrwipeout said: Heres the thing: Gudbranson is the best defensive Dman nucks have. In front of the own net i cant think of anyone other then edler to match his capacity there. Thats why he is there. I only wish there was some Offensively minded Dman to be by his side. Someone that goes up and down like a squirrel on Coffeine. I think that would work out well. What about Tanev? Only Edler rivals his shot blocking prowess and Tanev's stick work in passing lanes is extraordinary. Gudbranson has his moments, but can easily get turned around by quick passing or skating. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrwipeout Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Tanev is definetly one of the better we have, but he doesnt have that gritty physical side that guddy has. Come playoff time i would stil prefer guddy at the backend, while tanev is definetly more allround type of player, the most crucial point in front of the own net needs some physique unless ur extremely well positioned as well as amazing stickhandling. i know its kinda difficult, but with edler out, i say we need that kind of physical prowess there. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post guntrix Posted February 14, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 14, 2019 36 minutes ago, Mrwipeout said: Heres the thing: Gudbranson is the best defensive Dman nucks have. In front of the own net i cant think of anyone other then edler to match his capacity there. Thats why he is there. I only wish there was some Offensively minded Dman to be by his side. Someone that goes up and down like a squirrel on Coffeine. I think that would work out well. Give me whatever you’re smoking, there’s no way he’s a better defensive defenseman than Tanev. 1 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckledraggin Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Greatest lineup ever. Y'all responded to the wipe and he's as wrong as you both have been for a few years. Cool Huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silky mitts Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 So many people here have some weird fetish for the guy lol. He’s just not a very good player on a equally bad contract . 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 2 hours ago, The 5th Line said: Gudbranson is probably the 5th best defensive d-man on this squad. He's not good in front of his net, he's bad with his stick and for a guy with his size he doesn't do a good enough job boxing out. He ranks 1st in toughness, and 1st in intimidation and those have their value but other than that he's just all around pretty bad. If he made 2-3 million it would be much easier to swallow I’m okay with your valuation of Guddy. I see a huge uptick in his play when Quinn Hughes gets here. Guddy needs to simplify his game to where he handles bodies to free up pucks. Quinn is perfect for collecting those pucks and moving up the ice. His great skills will force other teams to back off their forecheck, so they don’t get outnumbered on the counter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoasting Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 4 hours ago, guntrix said: Give me whatever you’re smoking, there’s no way he’s a better defensive defenseman than Tanev. It's legal now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckleHorse Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Love the response to that dirty hit made a crappy night a little better Getz had it coming he’s been bullying our weaker players for years. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 23 hours ago, Silky mitts said: So many people here have some weird fetish for the guy lol. He’s just not a very good player on a equally bad contract . .. but EG is the perfect offset type of D man if we had legit #1 and #2 Dmen. We have never had a true #1.. and don’t count on any prospect being one for 3 years. We have to get a legit/proven #1 .. I’m tired of the regurgitated country club fan faving of Edler and Tanev. Keep Edler if we must.. But move Tanev and add a prospect and or pick to somehow get an EK type Dman. We only get half seasons of play out of each, and we treat them like they’re #1’s. Again.. This team deserves a #1, proven, Dman .. and no team has ever won a Stanley Cup without a legit #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckledraggin Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 21 hours ago, Westcoasting said: It's legal now! No that guy is on some hard stuff. Pot wouldn't make someone say what he did. If Guddy played to his potential he might have a point, but a giant pylon is as easy to walk around as a small one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 22 hours ago, Westcoasting said: It's legal now! Crack is legal? That is what you would have to smoke to think Guddy is a better defensive D man than Tanev. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Kanukfanatic said: Crack is legal? That is what you would have to smoke to think Guddy is a better defensive D man than Tanev. Guddy is one of the best in the league at why can do, which intimidate, fight, and be physically imposing. Tanev is better at playing harder minutes in a shutdown role. They are completely different players. At this time in our rebuild, we need Guddy’s skills more than Tanev’s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoasting Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Kanukfanatic said: Crack is legal? That is what you would have to smoke to think Guddy is a better defensive D man than Tanev. You may be on to something there, but i don't think people who smoke crack have time to watch hockey though! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniwaki Canuck Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 On 2/13/2019 at 10:19 PM, Alflives said: I’m okay with your valuation of Guddy. I see a huge uptick in his play when Quinn Hughes gets here. Guddy needs to simplify his game to where he handles bodies to free up pucks. Quinn is perfect for collecting those pucks and moving up the ice. His great skills will force other teams to back off their forecheck, so they don’t get outnumbered on the counter. 1 hour ago, SilentSam said: .. but EG is the perfect offset type of D man if we had legit #1 and #2 Dmen. We have never had a true #1.. and don’t count on any prospect being one for 3 years. We have to get a legit/proven #1 .. I’m tired of the regurgitated country club fan faving of Edler and Tanev. Keep Edler if we must.. But move Tanev and add a prospect and or pick to somehow get an EK type Dman. We only get half seasons of play out of each, and we treat them like they’re #1’s. Again.. This team deserves a #1, proven, Dman .. and no team has ever won a Stanley Cup without a legit #1. Gotta agree with these posts. Guddy can't carry a pair on his own, but could still be a good complementary piece. Either Hughes or Juolevi could bring him around. The issue with our defense isn't just lack of talent. It's also incredibly badly constructed: the whole less than the sum of the parts on nearly every pairing. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickTheGreek Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 I don't know who I want to drive to the airport first. Pouliot or Guddy. Both drive me up the bloody wall and I feel my blood pressure will go back to normal the second they get the hell off this team. Hell, I'm gonna rent a bus so I can drive them, Eriksson, Granlund, Sutter and Schaller to YVR. One way ticket to Siberia. Adios muchachos! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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