BCNate Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 The way that I see it is that we paid a steep price at the time for a young, big, supposedly physical D that we sorely needed. He did not pan out, it happens. We then flipped him for a player that is producing at a similar level of the guy we gave up. We took a risk that backfired, but ended up in a similar spot that we would have been if we had done nothing. I'm good with that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spur1 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 44 minutes ago, Tom Sestito said: McCann's advanced stats were also good here. Really good ES player at the NHL level relative to deployment. Loved when we picked him, always thought he was better than Jake. I’ll take Jake over Jarred anytime. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borvat Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 9 hours ago, Kosmo Kramer said: Are you referring to the " it is what it is" comment or is there more to the story? I don't think Pittsburgh fans are saying he had poor character. Kind of voided your own comment here. Here is the article that includes the comments from Pedan, Bartkowski's Mom and Daniel Sedin: https://www.vancourier.com/pass-it-to-bulis/jared-mccann-acted-like-lonely-star-says-andrey-pedan-1.2266811 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerrDrFunk Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 The Canucks would have been better off keeping McCann and the pick. However, Pearson finding his game in Vancouver again definitely takes the sting out of that. So from an objective standpoint, things could be better for the Canucks but I'm not complaining with how it turned out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Mac Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 9 minutes ago, Borvat said: Here is the article that includes the comments from Pedan, Bartkowski's Mom and Daniel Sedin: https://www.vancourier.com/pass-it-to-bulis/jared-mccann-acted-like-lonely-star-says-andrey-pedan-1.2266811 The headline says it all: Jared McCann acted like 'lonely star', says Andrey Pedan (or, why trading a 19-year-old because of character issues is pretty silly) Honestly I don't really care about Pedan's character evaluation. When Jake and Jared were on the team they were probably the youngest by about 4 or 5 years, only other player around thier would've been Bo who probably was pretty grounded and probably kept a low profile when on the road. We can argue about Tyrion Pearson's role with the team but giving up on McCann that early was pretty foolish imo. What's done is done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Western Red Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 4 hours ago, 189lb enforcers? said: Traded the wrong 1st rounder in that trade. Jake should have been traded. Seriously dude? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhorvat Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 5 hours ago, PhillipBlunt said: Crazy thing is Gudbranson is now dealing with being a healthy scratch in Pittsburgh. The game looks to be passing him by now. Just imagine if we had Lucic, Erikkson and Gudbranson on our roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Just now, captainhorvat said: Just imagine if we had Lucic, Erikkson and Gudbranson on our roster. No. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
189lb enforcers? Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Western Red said: Seriously dude? Yup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
189lb enforcers? Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 35 minutes ago, captainhorvat said: Just imagine if we had Lucic, Erikkson and Gudbranson on our roster. I’d rather imagine we had MT and Ehlers, but sure. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DADDYROCK Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 To me Ryan Kesler was the epitome of an American Prima Dona. It was always about him not what was best for the team.He was a warrior ,no doubt,but still a prima dona. I'm very glad that Mr. Benning knows how to draft,even when we have gotten shafted an unprecedented four years in a row, we still have come away with some good young players,because for years our drafting was,in a nutshell TRAGIC. We can always go what if etc.on some of our choices,and with a bit of luck this is what can build Championship Teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borvat Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Tre Mac said: The headline says it all: Jared McCann acted like 'lonely star', says Andrey Pedan (or, why trading a 19-year-old because of character issues is pretty silly) Honestly I don't really care about Pedan's character evaluation. When Jake and Jared were on the team they were probably the youngest by about 4 or 5 years, only other player around thier would've been Bo who probably was pretty grounded and probably kept a low profile when on the road. We can argue about Tyrion Pearson's role with the team but giving up on McCann that early was pretty foolish imo. What's done is done. Well it wasn't just Pedan that commented. Daniel Sedin uncharacteristically commented as well. Without knowing the details surrounding the comments it's difficult to understand the actual issues or who/what may have been the problem. Sometimes the ultimate decision and actions taken reflect the cause or issue. Maybe they didn't give up on McCann but rather decided it best to move on based on the circumstances. Anyways it could be worse than Pearson as a result - so far. Edited October 17, 2019 by Borvat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Borvat said: Well it wasn't just Pedan that commented. Daniel Sedin uncharacteristically commented as well. Without knowing the details surrounding the comments it's difficult to understand the actual issues or who/what may have been the problem. Sometimes the ultimate decision and actions taken reflect the cause or issue. Anyways it could be worse than Pearson as a result - so far. One of the mothers commented about McCann’s attitude too. It’s a team game. McCann was (could still be) a me first guy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckNORRIS4Cup Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 I will always remember this YouTube video (someone on CDC originally posted it after he was traded) of some Pittsburgh sports guys, praising Gudbranson as this bar down sniper in Practice, not the game, but practice. Start it at 2:05 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 hour ago, 189lb enforcers? said: I’d rather imagine we had MT and Ehlers, but sure. Me too. But then again, if we had those 2 players...would we still have Pete and Quinn? As the much maligned Jared McCaan would say, "It's what it is". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nuxfanabroad Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 6 hours ago, Tre Mac said: Haha, commas can make or break a sentence. Good one, TM. Have you seen that 'Dear John' letter, that changes meaning when punctuated two ways? If not I'll post it some time..quite a hoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosmo Kramer Posted October 17, 2019 Author Share Posted October 17, 2019 7 hours ago, Drakrami said: Seemed like a decent analysis at first. What makes you say Rasmus Asplund wont make the NHL? 75 games 10 goals, 41 points in the AHL last year as a 21 years old. If Juolevi had those stats people on here would hype through the roof. Juolevi is a Dman not a center so hard to compare the stat line. I really don't know anything about Asplund, so just sheer lack of knowledge. Looked at the stat lines to provide information and he didn't jump out at me as a big scorer. Learned he is a hard working bottom 6 projected type player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Canuck Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 7 hours ago, Lancaster said: To be fair, he was 18 years old at the time. A young guy suddenly becoming a celebrity in a Canadian city via being an NHL player, with loads of cash, and probably young ladies flocking to be around him. Seems more like, he just needs time to mature rather than him being a cancer to a locker room. To be fair I think the real problem is McCann & JV should have been sent back to Jr (I think they were too young to go the AHL) ... they weren't ready for the NHL & both of their developments suffered ... the best choice would have been to send them to the AHL but I don't think that was an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 hour ago, 189lb enforcers? said: I’d rather imagine we had MT and Ehlers, but sure. What does that have to do with anything? Seems like prodding the thread to try and turn it into another GM fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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