73 Percent Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 6 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Psst. We got him for free. Why are people bitching? Most arent bitching. Just trying to temper expectations. Those who are bitching, well its the ones who arent happy unless they're bitching about something. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70seven Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 Nice to hear so much positive talk around the hockey world on this signing. A lot of scouts really like this kid. hes got the attitude to make it. Not the kind of personality thatll take no for an answer. he's going to put in the work, and he's going to press for a roster spot. I love how confident he is in his defensive abilities. Saying things like he likes to create offence, but never at the cost of compromising the defence. He honestly sounds really well rounded. Pretty much earned a letter on his chest everywhere he's played. Who knows, maybe we scored a real beauty here... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 2 hours ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Psst. We got him for free. Why are people bitching? CDC be CDC'ing yo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJSkingz Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 2 hours ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Psst. We got him for free. Why are people bitching? Because he is too short and will never amount to an effective NHL player. Am I doing it right LaBamba? @LaBamba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DIBdaQUIB Posted April 15, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted April 15, 2016 2 hours ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Psst. We got him for free. Why are people bitching? Kind of boggles the mind. Bob McKenzie describes him as probably the #1 college prospect available (after Vesey) with numerous NHL teams in pursuit and Vancouver landed him. If Benning hadn't signed him, the thread would have been "Benning out-GM'd again". I'm excited for a kid with his track-record and skills. Has the potential to be a very good NHLer. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaBamba Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 24 minutes ago, DJSkingz said: Because he is too short and will never amount to an effective NHL player. Am I doing it right LaBamba? @LaBamba As short as he is, he is still like a torso taller than Subban. I'll let this one slide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Harvey Spector Posted April 15, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted April 15, 2016 (edited) 16 minutes ago, DIBdaQUIB said: Kind of boggles the mind. Bob McKenzie describes him as probably the #1 college prospect available (after Vesey) with numerous NHL teams in pursuit and Vancouver landed him. If Benning hadn't signed him, the thread would have been "Benning out-GM'd again". I'm excited for a kid with his track-record and skills. Has the potential to be a very good NHLer. If Benning signs him he's a local kid and so therefore Benning shouldn't take any credit whatsoever. If he doesn't sign him it's Benning got out GM'm again and he sucks. Benning can't win either way.... Edited April 15, 2016 by Harvey Spector 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV's Coin Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 Interesting to compare to Fabbro since they came up through the same leagues/teams. Seem to have the same attributes except Fabbro puts up more points. Troy Stetcher Spoiler TROY STECHER views: 17391 BIRTHYEAR 1994-04-07 BIRTHPLACE Richmond, BC, CAN AGE 22 NATION Canada POSITION D SHOOTS R HEIGHT 180 cm / 5'11" WEIGHT 87 kg / 192 lbs CONTRACT 17/18 Highly skilled two-way defenceman that displays tremendous poise with and without the puck. Soft hands that can pass as well as let rockets fly. Excellent vision and a playmaker's knack for the game. Very aware and responsible defensively, but is not comfortable having the puck in his own end for too long and will take it upon himself to get the puck out of the defensive zone. His impact upon the game occurs at both ends of the ice as an offensive and defensive force. [EP] CAREER STATISTICS Use/Embed statistics SEASON TEAM LEAGUE GP G A TP PIM +/- POST GP G A TP PIM +/- 2007-08 Richmond Blues Bantam A1-T1 PCBHL 61 4 16 20 20 | 2008-09 Richmond Blues Bantam A1-T1 PCBHL 71 17 51 68 30 | 2009-10 Greater Vancouver Canadians BCMML 38 4 27 31 22 | Playoffs 5 1 1 2 6 2010-11 Penticton Vees BCHL 54 5 15 20 47 | Playoffs 9 2 3 5 6 2011-12 Penticton Vees BCHL 53 5 37 42 42 | Playoffs 15 2 8 10 8 2012-13 Penticton Vees BCHL 52 8 39 47 40 | Playoffs 15 6 6 10 2013-14 Univ. of North Dakota NCAA 42 2 9 11 14 9 | 2014-15 Univ. of North Dakota NCAA 34 3 10 13 22 11 | 2015-16 Univ. of North Dakota NCAA 43 8 21 29 37 26 | TOURNAMENT STATISTICS 2011-12 Penticton Vees Doyle Cup 5 1 2 3 12 | Penticton Vees RBC Cup 6 2 2 6 | Canada West U19 WJAC-19 5 4 | 2012-13 Canada West U19 WJAC-19 4 1 1 2 4 | 2013-14 Univ. of North Dakota GNW Showcase - 1 1 - | CAREER TOTALS GP G A TP PPG PIM +/- GP G A TP PPG PIM +/- Regular Season Postseason BCHL: 159 18 91 109 0.69 129 0 | 39 4 17 21 0.54 24 0 BCMML: 38 4 27 31 0.82 22 - | 5 1 1 2 0.40 6 Doyle Cup: 5 1 2 3 0.60 12 0 | GNW Showcase: - 0 1 1 - - 0 | NCAA: 119 13 40 53 0.45 73 46 | PCBHL: 132 21 67 88 0.67 50 0 | RBC Cup: 6 0 2 2 0.33 6 0 | WJAC-19: 9 1 1 2 0.22 8 0 | - See more at: http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=59042#sthash.QYTZX9wo.dpuf Dante Fabbro Spoiler DANTE FABBRO views: 31383 BIRTHYEAR 1998-06-20 BIRTHPLACE New Westminster, BC, CAN AGE 17 NATION Canada POSITION D SHOOTS R HEIGHT 185 cm / 6'1" WEIGHT 84 kg / 185 lbs YOUTH TEAM Burnaby Winter Club NHL DRAFT Top Prospect eligible for the 2016 NHL Entry Draft RANKINGS Ranked #13 by Hockeyprospect.com Ranked #21 by Future Considerations Ranked #18 by NHL Central Scouting (NA Skaters) SOCIAL Dante Fabbro is a dependable two-way defenseman with high offensive upside. He plays with poise and makes mature, high-percentage decisions under pressure. In his own end, he is proactive with both his body and stick, and does everything right to interrupt passing lanes and win back possession. With the puck on his stick, he is mobile at an elite level and can direct plays like a quarterback. He possesses a hard and accurate release on his shot, that he gets off quickly and on-net. All-in-all, a complete defenseman that plays a refined game at both ends of the ice. (Curtis Joe, EP 2015) "Fabbro's defensive tendencies and polished offensive game have often drawn comparisons to Tyson Barrie of the Colorado Avalanche. As a slick puck mover with excellent individual skill, Fabbro could become a huge difference maker at the next level." [EP] © Photo: Dan Hickling CAREER STATISTICS Use/Embed statistics SEASON TEAM LEAGUE GP G A TP PIM +/- POST GP G A TP PIM +/- 2012-13 Burnaby Winter Club Bntm A1-T1 PCBHL 58 25 53 78 48 | 2013-14 Vancouver NW Giants BCMML 38 22 39 61 44 | Playoffs 6 2 8 10 12 Langley Rivermen BCHL 2 | 2014-15 Penticton Vees BCHL 44 4 29 33 16 | Playoffs 21 4 11 15 10 Canada Red U17 WHC-17 5 2 1 3 | 2015-16 Penticton Vees BCHL 45 14 53 67 30 | Playoffs 11 8 8 2 0 Canada U18 WJC-18 - - - - - | 2016-17 Boston Univ. NCAA - - - - - | TOURNAMENT STATISTICS 2012-13 BCMML Avalanche U16 Cup 4 2 2 2 | 2013-14 Team British Columbia WCCC-16 4 1 4 5 | 2014-15 Team Red U17-Dev 3 3 3 2 | Canada West U19 WJAC-19 4 1 2 3 | Penticton Vees Western Canada Cup 5 2 1 3 2 | Penticton Vees RBC Cup 5 3 3 - | 2015-16 Team Red U18-Dev 3 1 1 2 | Canada U18 Hlinka Memorial 4 2 | Canada West U19 WJAC-19 4 3 3 4 | CAREER TOTALS GP G A TP PPG PIM +/- GP G A TP PPG PIM +/- Regular Season Postseason BCHL: 91 18 82 100 1.10 46 0 | 32 4 19 23 0.72 12 0 BCMML: 38 22 39 61 1.61 44 0 | 6 2 8 10 1.67 12 0 Hlinka Memorial: 4 0 0 0.00 0 2 | NCAA: - - - - - - - | PCBHL: 58 25 53 78 1.34 48 0 | RBC Cup: 5 0 3 3 0.60 - 0 | U16 Cup: 4 0 2 2 0.50 2 0 | U17-Dev: 3 0 3 3 1.00 2 0 | U18-Dev: 3 1 1 2 0.67 0 0 | WCCC-16: 4 1 4 5 1.25 0 0 | Western Canada Cup: 5 2 1 3 0.60 2 0 | WHC-17: 5 2 1 3 0.60 0 0 | WJAC-19: 8 1 5 6 0.75 4 0 | WJC-18: - - - - - - 0 | - See more at: http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=247041#sthash.dvd4tHut.dpuf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbdoubleu Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 I don't know much about him, but the praise he has got from respected analysts like Bob Mack is exciting. Can't have too much depth and having him compete directly for a role that we kind of see Subban fighting for is a good thing. Maybe he emerges as the guy, maybe Subban does, but it's only going to make both of them better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Karlsson Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 So if he was 6 feet would people still be saying he's too small? An inch isn't really a big deal, 5'11 is not that small if you have good skating ability, just ask the Ghost. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeneedLumme Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 13 hours ago, ABNucksfan said: I think you mean 200 pounds... bench press doesn't mean anything anyways. There are better ways to test strength. But yes look at Crosby 5'11 195 lbs. pretty much same as me but I may be 1/2" taller and he's most likely stronger than I am. You can think whatever you want, but the player weighed 190 lbs. and bench pressed 400 lbs. That's what was so impressive. And it definitely did mean something. Why don't you try pressing 400 lbs. and let us know how it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabinessence Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 12 hours ago, ABNucksfan said: Why waste so much time on here arguing silly things? Last time I checked Stecher was a prospect... Maybe, just maybe stechers play translates well to the NHL game. If this ends up being the case prospector JB struck gold. Anywho, instead of arguing foolish things try being a constructive contributor; that way I don't have to waste my time hitting the ignore button. Cue bass solo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuporbust Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 (edited) 14 hours ago, ABNucksfan said: I think you mean 200 pounds... bench press doesn't mean anything anyways. There are better ways to test strength. But yes look at Crosby 5'11 195 lbs. pretty much same as me but I may be 1/2" taller and he's most likely stronger than I am. Upper body strength doesn't mean anything. Ok. Check. Got it. Lol yeah there are others that matter , but bench press matters 100%. I'd agree that pulling exercises probably matter more , but bench does tell us allot about pushing power, which means a fair amount. It can also indicate how naturally strong a players upper body is. Especially if he's a smaller guy. guna have to say "dead wrong" on this one bro Edited April 15, 2016 by cuporbust 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 6 minutes ago, cuporbust said: Upper body strength doesn't mean anything. Ok. Check. Got it. Lol yeah there are others that matter , but bench press matters 100% guna have to say "dead wrong" on this one bro Meh. Pucks aren't that heavy. I know AB was referring to strength testing but in regards to it translating to hockey I don't think its really matters much. Look at that 18 year old flames kid. Or is he 19? It's been a while since Jim Hughson reminded me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoDangles Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 (edited) I'm probably (almost definitely) biased as a UND guy and I know they play different positions but, in my opinion, Troy Stecher >>> Jimmy Vesey. You can make a strong argument that Stecher was the best player on the best team in college hockey. Vesey is a good player that put up 46 point in 33 games in a garbage conference. Vesey played in the ECAC and, outside of Quinnipiac, that conference is a dumpster fire. The fact that Vesey won the Hobey Baker (college hockey's best player) is an absolute joke. The guy wore a fishbowl for God's sake. Edited April 16, 2016 by BoDangles 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blömqvist Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 6 hours ago, AV's Coin said: Interesting to compare to Fabbro since they came up through the same leagues/teams. Seem to have the same attributes except Fabbro puts up more points. Troy Stetcher Reveal hidden contents TROY STECHER views: 17391 BIRTHYEAR 1994-04-07 BIRTHPLACE Richmond, BC, CAN AGE 22 NATION Canada POSITION D SHOOTS R HEIGHT 180 cm / 5'11" WEIGHT 87 kg / 192 lbs CONTRACT 17/18 Highly skilled two-way defenceman that displays tremendous poise with and without the puck. Soft hands that can pass as well as let rockets fly. Excellent vision and a playmaker's knack for the game. Very aware and responsible defensively, but is not comfortable having the puck in his own end for too long and will take it upon himself to get the puck out of the defensive zone. His impact upon the game occurs at both ends of the ice as an offensive and defensive force. [EP] CAREER STATISTICS Use/Embed statistics SEASON TEAM LEAGUE GP G A TP PIM +/- POST GP G A TP PIM +/- 2007-08 Richmond Blues Bantam A1-T1 PCBHL 61 4 16 20 20 | 2008-09 Richmond Blues Bantam A1-T1 PCBHL 71 17 51 68 30 | 2009-10 Greater Vancouver Canadians BCMML 38 4 27 31 22 | Playoffs 5 1 1 2 6 2010-11 Penticton Vees BCHL 54 5 15 20 47 | Playoffs 9 2 3 5 6 2011-12 Penticton Vees BCHL 53 5 37 42 42 | Playoffs 15 2 8 10 8 2012-13 Penticton Vees BCHL 52 8 39 47 40 | Playoffs 15 6 6 10 2013-14 Univ. of North Dakota NCAA 42 2 9 11 14 9 | 2014-15 Univ. of North Dakota NCAA 34 3 10 13 22 11 | 2015-16 Univ. of North Dakota NCAA 43 8 21 29 37 26 | TOURNAMENT STATISTICS 2011-12 Penticton Vees Doyle Cup 5 1 2 3 12 | Penticton Vees RBC Cup 6 2 2 6 | Canada West U19 WJAC-19 5 4 | 2012-13 Canada West U19 WJAC-19 4 1 1 2 4 | 2013-14 Univ. of North Dakota GNW Showcase - 1 1 - | CAREER TOTALS GP G A TP PPG PIM +/- GP G A TP PPG PIM +/- Regular Season Postseason BCHL: 159 18 91 109 0.69 129 0 | 39 4 17 21 0.54 24 0 BCMML: 38 4 27 31 0.82 22 - | 5 1 1 2 0.40 6 Doyle Cup: 5 1 2 3 0.60 12 0 | GNW Showcase: - 0 1 1 - - 0 | NCAA: 119 13 40 53 0.45 73 46 | PCBHL: 132 21 67 88 0.67 50 0 | RBC Cup: 6 0 2 2 0.33 6 0 | WJAC-19: 9 1 1 2 0.22 8 0 | - See more at: http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=59042#sthash.QYTZX9wo.dpuf Dante Fabbro Reveal hidden contents DANTE FABBRO views: 31383 BIRTHYEAR 1998-06-20 BIRTHPLACE New Westminster, BC, CAN AGE 17 NATION Canada POSITION D SHOOTS R HEIGHT 185 cm / 6'1" WEIGHT 84 kg / 185 lbs YOUTH TEAM Burnaby Winter Club NHL DRAFT Top Prospect eligible for the 2016 NHL Entry Draft RANKINGS Ranked #13 by Hockeyprospect.com Ranked #21 by Future Considerations Ranked #18 by NHL Central Scouting (NA Skaters) SOCIAL Dante Fabbro is a dependable two-way defenseman with high offensive upside. He plays with poise and makes mature, high-percentage decisions under pressure. In his own end, he is proactive with both his body and stick, and does everything right to interrupt passing lanes and win back possession. With the puck on his stick, he is mobile at an elite level and can direct plays like a quarterback. He possesses a hard and accurate release on his shot, that he gets off quickly and on-net. All-in-all, a complete defenseman that plays a refined game at both ends of the ice. (Curtis Joe, EP 2015) "Fabbro's defensive tendencies and polished offensive game have often drawn comparisons to Tyson Barrie of the Colorado Avalanche. As a slick puck mover with excellent individual skill, Fabbro could become a huge difference maker at the next level." [EP] © Photo: Dan Hickling CAREER STATISTICS Use/Embed statistics SEASON TEAM LEAGUE GP G A TP PIM +/- POST GP G A TP PIM +/- 2012-13 Burnaby Winter Club Bntm A1-T1 PCBHL 58 25 53 78 48 | 2013-14 Vancouver NW Giants BCMML 38 22 39 61 44 | Playoffs 6 2 8 10 12 Langley Rivermen BCHL 2 | 2014-15 Penticton Vees BCHL 44 4 29 33 16 | Playoffs 21 4 11 15 10 Canada Red U17 WHC-17 5 2 1 3 | 2015-16 Penticton Vees BCHL 45 14 53 67 30 | Playoffs 11 8 8 2 0 Canada U18 WJC-18 - - - - - | 2016-17 Boston Univ. NCAA - - - - - | TOURNAMENT STATISTICS 2012-13 BCMML Avalanche U16 Cup 4 2 2 2 | 2013-14 Team British Columbia WCCC-16 4 1 4 5 | 2014-15 Team Red U17-Dev 3 3 3 2 | Canada West U19 WJAC-19 4 1 2 3 | Penticton Vees Western Canada Cup 5 2 1 3 2 | Penticton Vees RBC Cup 5 3 3 - | 2015-16 Team Red U18-Dev 3 1 1 2 | Canada U18 Hlinka Memorial 4 2 | Canada West U19 WJAC-19 4 3 3 4 | CAREER TOTALS GP G A TP PPG PIM +/- GP G A TP PPG PIM +/- Regular Season Postseason BCHL: 91 18 82 100 1.10 46 0 | 32 4 19 23 0.72 12 0 BCMML: 38 22 39 61 1.61 44 0 | 6 2 8 10 1.67 12 0 Hlinka Memorial: 4 0 0 0.00 0 2 | NCAA: - - - - - - - | PCBHL: 58 25 53 78 1.34 48 0 | RBC Cup: 5 0 3 3 0.60 - 0 | U16 Cup: 4 0 2 2 0.50 2 0 | U17-Dev: 3 0 3 3 1.00 2 0 | U18-Dev: 3 1 1 2 0.67 0 0 | WCCC-16: 4 1 4 5 1.25 0 0 | Western Canada Cup: 5 2 1 3 0.60 2 0 | WHC-17: 5 2 1 3 0.60 0 0 | WJAC-19: 8 1 5 6 0.75 4 0 | WJC-18: - - - - - - 0 | - See more at: http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=247041#sthash.dvd4tHut.dpuf If only we could draft Fabbro with our second round pick. He didn't rank in the top 30 from ISS but Craig Button thinks really highly of him, enough so to rank him at #13. It's probably the BCHL factor but I think Fabbro is gonna be a realy good top-4 guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABNucksfan Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 (edited) 6 hours ago, WeneedLumme said: You can think whatever you want, but the player weighed 190 lbs. and bench pressed 400 lbs. That's what was so impressive. And it definitely did mean something. Why don't you try pressing 400 lbs. and let us know how it goes. It wasn't 400 lbs... he's was not a friggen body builder... And i was just saying bench isn't a good factor for fitness, but bure was a very strong powerful player so agreeing with you... (just not the 400lbs part) It was 200lbs in training camp... when he was a teenager.., when he was older he could have very well benched 400 Edited April 16, 2016 by ABNucksfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABNucksfan Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 (edited) 5 hours ago, cuporbust said: Upper body strength doesn't mean anything. Ok. Check. Got it. Lol yeah there are others that matter , but bench press matters 100%. I'd agree that pulling exercises probably matter more , but bench does tell us allot about pushing power, which means a fair amount. It can also indicate how naturally strong a players upper body is. Especially if he's a smaller guy. guna have to say "dead wrong" on this one bro http://footballcoachessite.com/why-athletes-should-not-bench-press/ Gunna have to say your dead wrong on this one brosky... Anyone who is into fitness for "purpose" knows this... (just for the record I didn't say "Upper body strength doesn't mean anything" I said bench press... upper body strength means something just like reading comprehension. Edited April 16, 2016 by ABNucksfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SvenBae Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 5 hours ago, cuporbust said: Upper body strength doesn't mean anything. Ok. Check. Got it. Lol yeah there are others that matter , but bench press matters 100%. I'd agree that pulling exercises probably matter more , but bench does tell us allot about pushing power, which means a fair amount. It can also indicate how naturally strong a players upper body is. Especially if he's a smaller guy. guna have to say "dead wrong" on this one bro Bodybuilding lifts do not mean much in terms of functional strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frail Granny Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 A reliable source has informed me Benning is close to offering this guy a contract. Should be big and strong enough to please the fans... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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