Rob_Zepp Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Well......Andy.....I'm thinking that might not be happening. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Wow. Considering how much better he was last year, if nothing else hopefully this only increases his trade value if we are indeed looking to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Alflives Posted June 20, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 20, 2019 35 minutes ago, Hutton Wink said: Wow. Considering how much better he was last year, if nothing else hopefully this only increases his trade value if we are indeed looking to move on. We need a left side D who can fill Edler's role, when Edler is injured, which is very likely to happen. Hutton proved he can fill that role last season while Edler was out. We keep Hutton, and he plays second pair. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 (edited) Doesn't mean the Canucks are totally walking away from Hutton. They did the same thing last summer with Derrick Pouliot so that when he doesn't receive the QO, they can renegotiate a lower cap number. However, sounds like JB and management might have already parted ways with him. Edited June 24, 2019 by CRAZY_4_NAZZY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattJVD Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 14 minutes ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said: Doesn't mean the Canucks are totally walking away from Hutton. They did the same thing last summer with Derrick Pouliot so that when he doesn't receive the QO, they can renegotiate a lower cap number. However, sounds like JB and management might have already parted ways with him. Jeeze, that seems like a big mistake. I really hope they do qualify him. Who cares if he get 4.2 on a one year deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RakuRaku Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 (edited) I am happy!! Save that $4M.... won't cost us close to that to nab Jordie Benn! Don't get me wrong... I do like B-Hut as a person....but he's just not consistent enough to get $4M+ .... I don't like us paying $7M for Myers either but if that's what it takes to make a playoff push!! We'll make more savings by trading Tanev too who offers next to nothing in offense and can't stay healthy for at least 80% of the time.... Let's get Schenn signed up for 1-way $1.5M!! Edited June 24, 2019 by Virtanen#18 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhukini Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 I haven't liked Bens progression since his rookie season. Anything more than 2-2.5M for this guy is a massive overpayment. It sucks our d is so thin but even if he just walks I don't think it'll be that big of a loss. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliboy Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Zhukini said: I haven't liked Bens progression since his rookie season. Anything more than 2-2.5M for this guy is a massive overpayment. It sucks our d is so thin but even if he just walks I don't think it'll be that big of a loss. These are also my numbers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 $4M is too much for Hutton imo. I'd like to re-sign him, but not for that much. He's worth $2.5-3.0 to me. I hope we don't qualify him and just re-sign him to a cheaper deal for 1 or 2 years. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GINCHMASTER Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Imo Hutton was only good the first year he played for us, who knows why management has such a hard on for the kid. Stetcher is so much better and has always had to fight for mins where as Ben is always guaranteed high mins for whatever reason I'm blind to. I hope we let him go so we can take advantage of whatever team picks him up (if any) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 31 minutes ago, -AJ- said: $4M is too much for Hutton imo. I'd like to re-sign him, but not for that much. He's worth $2.5-3.0 to me. I hope we don't qualify him and just re-sign him to a cheaper deal for 1 or 2 years. I agree, AJ, although he worked hard to improve his game last year and took on some heavy minutes while Edler was away. He certainly deserves a raise from his previous 2.5m contract; at least 3-3.2m I'm thinking Juolevi isn't ready right away, so the d are looking thin on the right side without Ben. Unless the management have a UFA that they're talking to (with +skills and - $), I like the idea of them waiting Hutton out and doing a short term deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 40 minutes ago, higgyfan said: I agree, AJ, although he worked hard to improve his game last year and took on some heavy minutes while Edler was away. He certainly deserves a raise from his previous 2.5m contract; at least 3-3.2m I'm thinking Juolevi isn't ready right away, so the d are looking thin on the right side without Ben. Unless the management have a UFA that they're talking to (with +skills and - $), I like the idea of them waiting Hutton out and doing a short term deal. I feel that Hutton fell far short of his contract in 2017-18 and in 2018-19, went up to matching his contract cost. A contract of a bit over $3m wouldn't hurt too bad though provided it was also short in term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 6 hours ago, -AJ- said: I feel that Hutton fell far short of his contract in 2017-18 and in 2018-19, went up to matching his contract cost. A contract of a bit over $3m wouldn't hurt too bad though provided it was also short in term. It would still be over his value and it becomes an issue when negotiating other contracts. Agents are looking at what other players are getting and it's becoming far more challenging for teams to keep salaries down. Having overpaid players on the roster complicates things. Agents are looking where their clients stand on the depth chart and are not willing to take less. McKenzie says Marner's camp doesn't care what Rantanen or Laine are going to get - for his camp the comparable is Matthews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googlie Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 On 6/24/2019 at 3:43 PM, -AJ- said: $4M is too much for Hutton imo. I'd like to re-sign him, but not for that much. He's worth $2.5-3.0 to me. I hope we don't qualify him and just re-sign him to a cheaper deal for 1 or 2 years. Well, you got the first part of your wish !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Zepp Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 He is now a UFA but not sure there is going to be a mad rush to sign him. He may get his best offer right back in Vancouver for a bit of a haircut on AAV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-P Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Good decison. Hutton is a nice #3 LD at 2.5 mil or so. If someone gives him more than that, so be it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewonder20 Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 9 hours ago, Rob_Zepp said: He is now a UFA but not sure there is going to be a mad rush to sign him. He may get his best offer right back in Vancouver for a bit of a haircut on AAV. This morning’s tweet from Ben Kuzma says that by not qualifying Ben Hutton the Canucks still have his rights until July 1st and they don't face arbitration. They are “looking for common ground and see if we can get a deal done” (Benning). He may still wind up as a Canuck but not get very much money, given so little interest from other clubs when the Canucks shopped him around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Zepp Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 1 hour ago, steviewonder20 said: This morning’s tweet from Ben Kuzma says that by not qualifying Ben Hutton the Canucks still have his rights until July 1st and they don't face arbitration. They are “looking for common ground and see if we can get a deal done” (Benning). He may still wind up as a Canuck but not get very much money, given so little interest from other clubs when the Canucks shopped him around. That is all correct. UFA as of 1 July like anyone else on an expiring contract....can still negotiate with existing team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewonder20 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 On 6/26/2019 at 7:30 AM, steviewonder20 said: This morning’s tweet from Ben Kuzma says that by not qualifying Ben Hutton the Canucks still have his rights until July 1st and they don't face arbitration. They are “looking for common ground and see if we can get a deal done” (Benning). He may still wind up as a Canuck but not get very much money, given so little interest from other clubs when the Canucks shopped him around. There’s a report today that Toronto was interested in Hutton but couldn’t come to terms with the Canucks. Now they will be going after him in free agency. Will not be happy to lose him for nothing if Toronto offered us something that we refused. https://mapleleafshotstove.com/2019/06/28/toronto-maple-leafs-ben-hutton/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post -DLC- Posted June 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 28, 2019 I really like Ben and admire his work ethic and how he's improved his game through extra hours spent in the summer (with Giroux I believe?). With that, he's too much of a nice guy. He's having fun out there and, while that's great and positive energy is something, we need a bit more nastiness. I just don't know that he's got the live and die hockey edge to his game that would bring so much to this team. I wish him well wherever he goes. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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