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Never really was a fan of the pick to begin with (Chychrun or Keller were the ones I wanted), but was satisfied as he was a safe bet on becoming a serviceable NHL player.

 

Looking back though, watching his peers around him grow into impact players for their clubs. Kind of stings a bit, especially when there wasn’t really a consensus top defensemen in the draft.

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1 hour ago, Alflives said:

OJ looks like he’s going to still be a player with us.  Plus, during rebuilding phases every team (even further cup winners) have misses with high picks.  The Hawks took Cam Barker (3OA)during their rebuild.  The took Jack Skille (8OA) too.  Those misses need to be covered by hits in the later rounds, which the Hawks did. 

We still have OJ, who will certainly be a useful player for us, or a trade chip.  Plus, we have Rathbone as the later round pick that covers the OJ miss.  

I don't really get all the knocks on OJ, tbh. If say we had traded for him this year I think the narrative would be different. but all this Benning history gets thrown in there and colours the narrative a lot imo. 

 

Seems like a solid kid, he moves well, makes good decisions, Green has said good things. I don't know why he's not in over Edler but you may be right, it could just be giving a veteran his last few games. 

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19 hours ago, SirCosmoDuffGordon said:

JB said at the draft something like he is capable of being a number 1 dman and then the following year or so after he was like we still have hope he can be a top 4 dman.. and I just find it odd that so quickly he can go from being number 1 calibre to top 4 it seemed like once JB saw more of him he realized he only had top 4 potential which kinda sucks for a top 5 pick. 

I have never seen nor heard JB say Olli could become a number 1 dman. Link please.

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21 hours ago, Alexandre said:

Here is what I could find so far, JB quoted about Olli at the draft.

 

“I don’t know if there’s a true No. 1 defenseman (in the draft),” Benning told TSN 1040 radio. “If you look through the league right now, there’s maybe eight or ten No. 1 defensemen in the whole league.”

And so the Canucks may choose a winger like Matthew Tkachuk or, perhaps more likely, a center like Logan Brown. If Pierre-Luc Dubois doesn’t get picked at No. 4, he’d certainly be an option, too.

 

https://nhl.nbcsports.com/2016/06/24/canucks-opt-to-bolster-blue-line-select-olli-juolevi-fifth-overall/

 

If I remember correctly, I have heard Benning say a number of times, that Olli, in his assesment, projects to be a number 2 dman.

Dubois was the nucks pick but they took him before us.

If Green let the kids play he will be the next Edler and he is part of the core.

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OJ had a somewhat uneven game IMO, he definitely does have the occasional mistake in the D zone still, both on the rush and around the net. On the other hand he made at least 2 breakout passes last night that no one else on the time has the ability for. One or two of these each game adds up to at least 20 extra goals per season, so if OJ can provide that + at least second pairing level defense that is the kind of player you need on all contenders.

 

Not even mentioning he has the potential to run PP2 behind QH/Rathbone which in itself should mean x extra goals per season.

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That explains a lot. He didn't look great and often looked fatigued after the covid outbreak.

 

As someone who got covid around the same time, I can attest to how much it can affect energy levels and stamina.

 

Here's hoping to a full recovery from Olli so he can battle for a spot come camp!

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2 hours ago, Butters Stoch said:

Man I didn't think it was possible but we've found a player with worse luck than Sami Salo

That's going too far..

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6 hours ago, Nave said:

That's going too far..

Some people have limited memories when it comes to degrees of bad luck. Many players and prospects have had bad luck and sometimes it is even fatal. Pelle Lindberg (Philly), Luc Bourdon (Van) and George Pelewa (Cal) come to mind as ones whose worse luck was fatal. Evan McEneny and many other prospects have had their careers ended because of repeated injuries before they really had a chance to make the NHL.

 

Juolevi still has a chance to become a regular player in the NHL. If he can stay healthy and work on regaining the mobility in his knee in the off season he has a better than average odds of making the Canucks full time next year.

 

Sami was a warrior. He continued to play for 15 years in the NHL through many injuries but none so bad that he was not able to recover from them. He had a string of bad luck for sure; but there are others with far worse luck.

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5 hours ago, Kootenay Gold said:

Some people have limited memories when it comes to degrees of bad luck. Many players and prospects have had bad luck and sometimes it is even fatal. Pelle Lindberg (Philly), Luc Bourdon (Van) and George Pelewa (Cal) come to mind as ones whose worse luck was fatal. Evan McEneny and many other prospects have had their careers ended because of repeated injuries before they really had a chance to make the NHL.

 

Juolevi still has a chance to become a regular player in the NHL. If he can stay healthy and work on regaining the mobility in his knee in the off season he has a better than average odds of making the Canucks full time next year.

 

Sami was a warrior. He continued to play for 15 years in the NHL through many injuries but none so bad that he was not able to recover from them. He had a string of bad luck for sure; but there are others with far worse luck.

I was jus kidding, because Sami had horrible luck. What a warrior though.

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1 hour ago, Nave said:

I was jus kidding, because Sami had horrible luck. What a warrior though.

Although I replied on your post, it was in response to Butter Stoch's post that you replied to.

 

His worse luck comment got me a bit riled as lots of players have had "worse luck" than either Sami or Juolevi.

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On 5/13/2021 at 3:00 AM, MrCanuck94 said:

I haven't seen anyone say OJ is going to be a number 1 d man. I do see people believing in him being a top minute muncher and PK specialist that can put up 30 points. Imo in his 22 year old season, he has proved to be a solid NHL top 6 at the very least.

 

"Solid"? "NHL"? "Top 6"? You can't honestly give somebody any of those unless they've played enough games. What are you basing it on - eye-test? 

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