J-P Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 (edited) OJ had a somewhat uneven game IMO, he definitely does have the occasional mistake in the D zone still, both on the rush and around the net. On the other hand he made at least 2 breakout passes last night that no one else on the time has the ability for. One or two of these each game adds up to at least 20 extra goals per season, so if OJ can provide that + at least second pairing level defense that is the kind of player you need on all contenders. Not even mentioning he has the potential to run PP2 behind QH/Rathbone which in itself should mean x extra goals per season. Edited May 14, 2021 by J-P sp 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post joe-max Posted May 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Possibly one of the reasons that he didn't get to play much down the stretch. 1 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCanuck94 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 That explains a lot. He didn't look great and often looked fatigued after the covid outbreak. As someone who got covid around the same time, I can attest to how much it can affect energy levels and stamina. Here's hoping to a full recovery from Olli so he can battle for a spot come camp! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MrCanuck94 Posted May 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 28, 2021 (edited) - Benning thought he started out well. - Got pulled out of the line up for veteran players once team got behind the 8 ball, coaches like having veteran players in situations when team is losing a lot. - Benning didn't feel he looked out of place when getting put in and out of the lineup. - Had honest conversations in exit interviews, he looked good until covid outbreak. - In 2-3 weeks he lost 10/15 lbs in weight and lost a lot of strength, played catch up the rest of the year. - Olli has an honest opinion of his game, knows where he's at and knows what he has to do. - Canucks think he can be an every day player. Benning on Donnie and Dhali Edited May 28, 2021 by MrCanuck94 2 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Shirokov Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 seems like most people are in agreement Juolevi had a solid season. big off season, i think he can still be an important player. . 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butters Stoch Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 Man I didn't think it was possible but we've found a player with worse luck than Sami Salo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nave Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 2 hours ago, Butters Stoch said: Man I didn't think it was possible but we've found a player with worse luck than Sami Salo That's going too far.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kootenay Gold Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, Nave said: That's going too far.. Some people have limited memories when it comes to degrees of bad luck. Many players and prospects have had bad luck and sometimes it is even fatal. Pelle Lindberg (Philly), Luc Bourdon (Van) and George Pelewa (Cal) come to mind as ones whose worse luck was fatal. Evan McEneny and many other prospects have had their careers ended because of repeated injuries before they really had a chance to make the NHL. Juolevi still has a chance to become a regular player in the NHL. If he can stay healthy and work on regaining the mobility in his knee in the off season he has a better than average odds of making the Canucks full time next year. Sami was a warrior. He continued to play for 15 years in the NHL through many injuries but none so bad that he was not able to recover from them. He had a string of bad luck for sure; but there are others with far worse luck. Edited May 29, 2021 by Kootenay Gold 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nave Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 5 hours ago, Kootenay Gold said: Some people have limited memories when it comes to degrees of bad luck. Many players and prospects have had bad luck and sometimes it is even fatal. Pelle Lindberg (Philly), Luc Bourdon (Van) and George Pelewa (Cal) come to mind as ones whose worse luck was fatal. Evan McEneny and many other prospects have had their careers ended because of repeated injuries before they really had a chance to make the NHL. Juolevi still has a chance to become a regular player in the NHL. If he can stay healthy and work on regaining the mobility in his knee in the off season he has a better than average odds of making the Canucks full time next year. Sami was a warrior. He continued to play for 15 years in the NHL through many injuries but none so bad that he was not able to recover from them. He had a string of bad luck for sure; but there are others with far worse luck. I was jus kidding, because Sami had horrible luck. What a warrior though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kootenay Gold Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Nave said: I was jus kidding, because Sami had horrible luck. What a warrior though. Although I replied on your post, it was in response to Butter Stoch's post that you replied to. His worse luck comment got me a bit riled as lots of players have had "worse luck" than either Sami or Juolevi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wloutet Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 16 hours ago, Butters Stoch said: Man I didn't think it was possible but we've found a player with worse luck than Sami Salo Motte, Ferland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny in Vancouver Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 On 5/13/2021 at 3:00 AM, MrCanuck94 said: I haven't seen anyone say OJ is going to be a number 1 d man. I do see people believing in him being a top minute muncher and PK specialist that can put up 30 points. Imo in his 22 year old season, he has proved to be a solid NHL top 6 at the very least. "Solid"? "NHL"? "Top 6"? You can't honestly give somebody any of those unless they've played enough games. What are you basing it on - eye-test? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannydog Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 11 minutes ago, vinny_in_vancouver said: "Solid"? "NHL"? "Top 6"? You can't honestly give somebody any of those unless they've played enough games. What are you basing it on - eye-test? Basing it on his own opinion. Just opposite of washed up,OHL has been, ahl max potential when he hasn’t played enough to warrant even a whiff of such statements. What are you basing it on? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny in Vancouver Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Dannydog said: Basing it on his own opinion. Just opposite of washed up,OHL has been, ahl max potential when he hasn’t played enough to warrant even a whiff of such statements. What are you basing it on? I definitely don't think OJ can be called a "solid NHL top 6" yet based on the sample size. Based on how much playing time he's getting from Greener, neither does Coach think so as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 1 hour ago, vinny_in_vancouver said: I definitely don't think OJ can be called a "solid NHL top 6" yet based on the sample size. Based on how much playing time he's getting from Greener, neither does Coach think so as well. Hopefully, when JV gets traded for peanuts - OJ doesn't become Greens new pet project... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloubek Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 Yeah, I'm not completely sold on OJ either. I saw improvements and he impressed me a few times last season.. had some real solid games. I also saw several games where I wasn't particularly keen on his play. Especially earlier on. I also question how high his ceiling is. He has solid vision and laser passing when he has lots of time, but nothing else stands out as a particular strength to me. This off-season is his opportunity to work on his skills and really make a push for a full time position. The Canucks have been very patient with him. I'm hoping it pays off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Canuck #12 Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 2 hours ago, ShawnAntoski said: Hopefully, when JV gets traded for peanuts - OJ doesn't become Greens new pet project... I think Benning will be lucky to even get a few peanuts for JV. Not unless they allow trades with the KHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 Just now, Captain Canuck #12 said: I think Benning will be lucky to even get a few peanuts for JV. Not unless they allow trades with the KHL. Yeah, a sad ending to the JV saga; was hoping to see him and Podz in the same line... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Canuck #12 Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 1 hour ago, kloubek said: Yeah, I'm not completely sold on OJ either. I saw improvements and he impressed me a few times last season.. had some real solid games. I also saw several games where I wasn't particularly keen on his play. Especially earlier on. I also question how high his ceiling is. He has solid vision and laser passing when he has lots of time, but nothing else stands out as a particular strength to me. This off-season is his opportunity to work on his skills and really make a push for a full time position. The Canucks have been very patient with him. I'm hoping it pays off. I have the same impression of OJ. By the end of the season, I had essentially written him off as anything other than a borderline NHL'er. But the statement from Green that OJ was one of the hardest hit by COVID does at least give a ray of hope that that's why his play tailed off so badly near the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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