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OJ had a somewhat uneven game IMO, he definitely does have the occasional mistake in the D zone still, both on the rush and around the net. On the other hand he made at least 2 breakout passes last night that no one else on the time has the ability for. One or two of these each game adds up to at least 20 extra goals per season, so if OJ can provide that + at least second pairing level defense that is the kind of player you need on all contenders.

 

Not even mentioning he has the potential to run PP2 behind QH/Rathbone which in itself should mean x extra goals per season.

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That explains a lot. He didn't look great and often looked fatigued after the covid outbreak.

 

As someone who got covid around the same time, I can attest to how much it can affect energy levels and stamina.

 

Here's hoping to a full recovery from Olli so he can battle for a spot come camp!

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6 hours ago, Nave said:

That's going too far..

Some people have limited memories when it comes to degrees of bad luck. Many players and prospects have had bad luck and sometimes it is even fatal. Pelle Lindberg (Philly), Luc Bourdon (Van) and George Pelewa (Cal) come to mind as ones whose worse luck was fatal. Evan McEneny and many other prospects have had their careers ended because of repeated injuries before they really had a chance to make the NHL.

 

Juolevi still has a chance to become a regular player in the NHL. If he can stay healthy and work on regaining the mobility in his knee in the off season he has a better than average odds of making the Canucks full time next year.

 

Sami was a warrior. He continued to play for 15 years in the NHL through many injuries but none so bad that he was not able to recover from them. He had a string of bad luck for sure; but there are others with far worse luck.

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5 hours ago, Kootenay Gold said:

Some people have limited memories when it comes to degrees of bad luck. Many players and prospects have had bad luck and sometimes it is even fatal. Pelle Lindberg (Philly), Luc Bourdon (Van) and George Pelewa (Cal) come to mind as ones whose worse luck was fatal. Evan McEneny and many other prospects have had their careers ended because of repeated injuries before they really had a chance to make the NHL.

 

Juolevi still has a chance to become a regular player in the NHL. If he can stay healthy and work on regaining the mobility in his knee in the off season he has a better than average odds of making the Canucks full time next year.

 

Sami was a warrior. He continued to play for 15 years in the NHL through many injuries but none so bad that he was not able to recover from them. He had a string of bad luck for sure; but there are others with far worse luck.

I was jus kidding, because Sami had horrible luck. What a warrior though.

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1 hour ago, Nave said:

I was jus kidding, because Sami had horrible luck. What a warrior though.

Although I replied on your post, it was in response to Butter Stoch's post that you replied to.

 

His worse luck comment got me a bit riled as lots of players have had "worse luck" than either Sami or Juolevi.

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On 5/13/2021 at 3:00 AM, MrCanuck94 said:

I haven't seen anyone say OJ is going to be a number 1 d man. I do see people believing in him being a top minute muncher and PK specialist that can put up 30 points. Imo in his 22 year old season, he has proved to be a solid NHL top 6 at the very least.

 

"Solid"? "NHL"? "Top 6"? You can't honestly give somebody any of those unless they've played enough games. What are you basing it on - eye-test? 

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11 minutes ago, vinny_in_vancouver said:

"Solid"? "NHL"? "Top 6"? You can't honestly give somebody any of those unless they've played enough games. What are you basing it on - eye-test? 

Basing it on his own opinion. Just opposite of washed up,OHL has been, ahl max potential when he hasn’t played enough to warrant even a whiff of such statements. What are you basing it on?

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2 hours ago, Dannydog said:

Basing it on his own opinion. Just opposite of washed up,OHL has been, ahl max potential when he hasn’t played enough to warrant even a whiff of such statements. What are you basing it on?

I definitely don't think OJ can be called a "solid NHL top 6" yet based on the sample size. Based on how much playing time he's getting from Greener, neither does Coach think so as well.

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1 hour ago, vinny_in_vancouver said:

I definitely don't think OJ can be called a "solid NHL top 6" yet based on the sample size. Based on how much playing time he's getting from Greener, neither does Coach think so as well.

Hopefully, when JV gets traded for peanuts - OJ doesn't become Greens new pet project...

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Yeah, I'm not completely sold on OJ either. I saw improvements and he impressed me a few times last season.. had some real solid games. I also saw several games where I wasn't particularly keen on his play. Especially earlier on. 

 

I also question how high his ceiling is. He has solid vision and laser passing when he has lots of time, but nothing else stands out as a particular strength to me. This off-season is his opportunity to work on his skills and really make a push for a full time position. 

 

The Canucks have been very patient with him. I'm hoping it pays off.

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1 hour ago, kloubek said:

Yeah, I'm not completely sold on OJ either. I saw improvements and he impressed me a few times last season.. had some real solid games. I also saw several games where I wasn't particularly keen on his play. Especially earlier on. 

 

I also question how high his ceiling is. He has solid vision and laser passing when he has lots of time, but nothing else stands out as a particular strength to me. This off-season is his opportunity to work on his skills and really make a push for a full time position. 

 

The Canucks have been very patient with him. I'm hoping it pays off.

I have the same impression of OJ.  By the end of the season, I had essentially written him off as anything other than a borderline NHL'er.  But the statement from Green that OJ was one of the hardest hit by COVID does at least give a ray of hope that that's why his play tailed off so badly near the end of the season.

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