oldnews Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 9 minutes ago, Curmudgeon said: If you are serious about going after a 34 year-old winger, then Scott Harnell is a far better choice than Antoine Vermette. He's tougher, more durable and scores at a better rate. So what if he costs more. If the objective is to become a grittier, quicker team that has more threats to score throughout the lineup, then Hartnell makes more sense, if you are going for 34 year-olds. Not sure if serious. Hartnell is not going to make any team "quicker". Nor is he above tripping over painted lines, hence the "Hartnell down" foundation. Hartnell also comes with a 3 yrs x 4.75 cap hit and a NMC btw, so it's not really clear that he's "a far better choice." The only way that makes sense is if Columbus parts with some serious compensation for taking that contract on. My guess is it aint gonna happen and if it was, the draft would have been the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curmudgeon Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 10 minutes ago, Whale Tail said: Except Verm would be free and Harnell would involve a trade How do you figure Vermette would be free? He's been bought out, he's not on waivers. He will probably have a few interested teams, so he won't be cheap. He's anything but free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davathor Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 3 minutes ago, Curmudgeon said: How do you figure Vermette would be free? He's been bought out, he's not on waivers. He will probably have a few interested teams, so he won't be cheap. He's anything but free. No he's on waivers for the purpose of buyout - my understanding is a team can put in a claim and get him for free. Don't see why oilers wouldn't do it either with the loss of Hall on the LW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 1 minute ago, Davathor said: No he's on waivers for the purpose of buyout - my understanding is a team can put in a claim and get him for free. Don't see why oilers wouldn't do it either with the loss of Hall on the LW He had an NMC and did not waive - he cannot be claimed on waivers. The buyout has already happened and he is a UFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 2 minutes ago, Davathor said: No he's on waivers for the purpose of buyout - my understanding is a team can put in a claim and get him for free. Don't see why oilers wouldn't do it either with the loss of Hall on the LW No - you should probably read the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curmudgeon Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 8 minutes ago, Davathor said: No he's on waivers for the purpose of buyout - my understanding is a team can put in a claim and get him for free. Don't see why oilers wouldn't do it either with the loss of Hall on the LW Don't take my word for it. How about this from the Calgary Herald: "The Coyotes bought out the final year of Vermette's contract on Monday, making the 34-year-old a free agent. Instead of counting $3.75 million against the salary cap, Vermette will count $1.25 million each of the next two seasons as Arizona looks to get younger. "In order to give our team more flexibility, we needed to make this difficult decision," general manager John Chayka said. "This move will provide an opportunity for some of our young, talented players to step up. Antoine is a class act and we thank him for all he did on and off the ice for the Arizona Coyotes organization." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RakuRaku Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 So much confusion.... can anyone with legit NHL knowledge confirm whether the canucks can just sign him outright or would have to put in a waivers claim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Goose Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 I can see him being a good fit with the Ducks and vice versa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whale Tail Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 1 hour ago, Curmudgeon said: How do you figure Vermette would be free? He's been bought out, he's not on waivers. He will probably have a few interested teams, so he won't be cheap. He's anything but free. Free as in not having to give up any of our assets trading for him. Hartnell would involve a trade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionized27 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 1 hour ago, Virtanen#18 said: So much confusion.... can anyone with legit NHL knowledge confirm whether the canucks can just sign him outright or would have to put in a waivers claim? He's now a free agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RakuRaku Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 18 minutes ago, Lionized27 said: He's now a free agent. Then what are we waiting for? Sign him up!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 1 hour ago, oldnews said: Not sure if serious. Hartnell is not going to make any team "quicker". Nor is he above tripping over painted lines, hence the "Hartnell down" foundation. Hartnell also comes with a 3 yrs x 4.75 cap hit and a NMC btw, so it's not really clear that he's "a far better choice." The only way that makes sense is if Columbus parts with some serious compensation for taking that contract on. My guess is it aint gonna happen and if it was, the draft would have been the time. The Jackets won't want his NMC hanging around their necks when the expansion draft comes along, so I think they will push to trade him down the stretch to trade deadline. I would think some would take him + compensation, but there will probably be a few of these types of contracts being moved. Personally I will be enjoying all these teams with boatloads of young players squirm when they have to leave some good players unprotected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derp... Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 34... Probably wants a 3 year contract. Might get it from someone too. I would do 2 years, at 2mill per season. 55% in the dot though. That's hard to beat... Would be a very good addition to our middle 6. Sedin Sedin Eriksson Vermette Sutter Hansen Baertschi Hovat Etem Burr Granlund Dorsett? I dono if that would work, but it would be interesting to see if he fit in our lineup Could also move Horvat into what would be 4C and just basically have 3 2/3rd tweener lines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Free agent now... damn there goes the ideal one year term. So much for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Nearly scores 20 goals on a God-awful offensive team. He may be getting old but he's still better than Burrows and much cheaper. He'll get snatched up, either off waivers or signed afterwards around the 2M mark. Still got a good 15-20 goal year in him surely on most teams. The Canucks should probably go for a younger guy like Pirri considering the fact that we still have Dorsett and Burrows eating up a combined 6+M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice orca Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 38 minutes ago, J.R. said: Free agent now... damn there goes the ideal one year term. So much for that. Pretty well getting down to the Cobb all the sweet corn is gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RakuRaku Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 32 minutes ago, DownUndaCanuck said: Nearly scores 20 goals on a God-awful offensive team. He may be getting old but he's still better than Burrows and much cheaper. He'll get snatched up, either off waivers or signed afterwards around the 2M mark. Still got a good 15-20 goal year in him surely on most teams. The Canucks should probably go for a younger guy like Pirri considering the fact that we still have Dorsett and Burrows eating up a combined 6+M. No thanks to Pirri... he's just as soft as Hudler.... Vermette is better in most areas such as faceoffs, grit and offensive production! If JB doesn't make an attempt to sign him, then he better got an Evander Kane trade lined up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpt Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 2 hours ago, Virtanen#18 said: Then what are we waiting for? Sign him up!!! It's more like why would he want to sign here unless he's desperate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpt Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 3 hours ago, SILLY GOOSE said: I can see him being a good fit with the Ducks and vice versa Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RakuRaku Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 6 minutes ago, mpt said: It's more like why would he want to sign here unless he's desperate Why wouldn't he? We have some of the best sushi in north america! Just ask the Sedins! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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