Alflives Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Just now, FaninMex said: Different roles and responsibilities. If hard work was all hockey was about Biega would be our 1 D and Captain. If LE plays such an important role, than why is he sitting in the press box game 1? It's not about role, with the extra forwards. It's about other things. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 9 minutes ago, DeNiro said: This does not look good for this organization. The guy just came back from a serious concussion and was making strides towards getting his game back and then they hit him with this? He didn’t have an amazing camp but it was better than a lot of other guys that made the roster. I thought they could have at least given him the benefit of the doubt. Not the way you treat a player like this. My guess is it will be very unpopular in the dressing room. But that's not how it works. If you listened to the interview, there were many factors to the decision including his tentativeness, likely as a result of all the injuries. You cannot just keep players around for sentimentality or hopeful reasons, you have to ice the best most competitive team you can. Benning said he tried moving him first, same as when he put others on waivers -- Corrado, Higgins, etc. The team is moving into the next phase of the rebuild as the placeholders are now being challenged and displaced by the developing draftees -- isn't that what we wanted all along? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 7 minutes ago, Alflives said: We have LE to pick up the slack. Oh, that's right. He's sitting in the press box, because he's so valuable. Wouldn't you rather have Baer in the press box, and send LE to Utica? you may still get your wish. Tomorrows roster didn't come down the mountain on a stone tablet. Give it a week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaninMex Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Alflives said: If LE plays such an important role, than why is he sitting in the press box game 1? It's not about role, with the extra forwards. It's about other things. It seems Green and Benning want 2 O and 2 D lines not the 3 O lines and 1 D line that CDC wants. Thus, it is about roles and extra forwards along with anything else they deemed worthy to help them make the choice of SB being on waivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, Hutton Wink said: But that's not how it works. If you listened to the interview, there were many factors to the decision including his tentativeness, likely as a result of all the injuries. You cannot just keep players around for sentimentality or hopeful reasons, you have to ice the best most competitive team you can. Benning said he tried moving him first, same as when he put others on waivers -- Corrado, Higgins, etc. The team is moving into the next phase of the rebuild as the placeholders are now being challenged and displaced by the developing draftees -- isn't that what we wanted all along? Except he didn’t get replaced by young players he got bumped out in place of aging plugs. You do give a player the benefit of the doubt when Coming back from an injury like that. It’s called loyalty. He’s earned that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-23 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 minute ago, FaninMex said: It seems Green and Benning want 2 O and 2 D lines not the 3 O lines and 1 D line that CDC wants. Thus, it is about roles and extra forwards along with anything else they deemed worthy to help them make the choice of SB being on waivers. It seems we are going to remain as one of the lowest goal scoring teams in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktcy2 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 I have a feeling baertschi will be picked up along with goldobin. There goes our top 6 depth. Thanks management, let’s move Schaller or motte or beagle up to top 6 when there are injuries - sounds awesome! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 21 minutes ago, Canuck Surfer said: Think they are about $1 mill short of cap space for that? And if they waive/demote someone they likely gain that +/-...just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Except he didn’t get replaced by young players he got bumped out in place of aging plugs. You do give a player the benefit of the doubt when Coming back from an injury like that. It’s called loyalty. He’s earned that. 1. He was replaced by better players -- Ferland/Miller in the top-6. 2. Loyalty -- so we should have kept Higgins for the duration of his contract, too? Edited September 30, 2019 by Hutton Wink 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ur a Towel Posted September 30, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 minute ago, FaninMex said: It seems Green and Benning want 2 O and 2 D lines not the 3 O lines and 1 D line that CDC wants. Thus, it is about roles and extra forwards along with anything else they deemed worthy to help them make the choice of SB being on waivers. There's a big misconception that our 3rd line will not be effective offensively. This is not entirely truthful. Sutter, Virtanen, Leivo, Gaudette, Roussel, hell even LE are all capable of scoring 15-20 goals. All of those forwards are good at both ends of the ice and most can and will play with some bite and physicality as well. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JamesB Posted September 30, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 30, 2019 21 minutes ago, Nuxfanabroad said: If someone claims Baer, & when Schaller is done at end-season, there's 5.2 mill AAV space, up front. With perhaps only Markstrom & AG to sign, next 2 yrs are cap-kosher. We only have ONE more season of Lu's recapture penalty, where JB has to limbo gracefully under the cap bar. Finally adding size, & getting the books in order(key as the season brings trade-opportunities, & inevitable injuries). This lineup will be easier to adjust(if necc) at the fringes. 8 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: Maybe we should wait and see how the team performs for 10 or so games. For whatever reason, Baertschi and Goldobin weren't a "good fit" on this team. Moving on, this is the Canucks roster to start the season. I like it, a lot. Maybe Eriksson actually plays well? We should be pulling for him IMO. He'll likely be traded at some point, but until then he's still a Canuck. If he's terrible then he deserves the criticism, but the season hasn't started yet. 1. I was surprised to see Baertschi put on waivers. Listening to Benning's interview is sounds as though a key reason is that he was not able to make either of the two PP units (and obviously does not play PK or shutdown). Baertschi has consistently been good on the PP over his career and has consistently scored at a second line level in terms of PPG. However, both JB and TG said that Baertschi did not seem 100% in pre-season. No-one said "concussion risk" or "concussion aftermath" but I bet that is part of the story. And, for the same reason, I did not expect him to be claimed on waivers. Also, as Nuxfan says, the Canucks would not mind losing Baertschi on waivers. His cap hit of 3.4 million is on the high side. (And that is another reason he is unlikely to be claimed.) 2. Not surprised about Goldy. Along with a lot of others I have been claiming for a while that i) Goldy would be waived and ii) Goldy should be waived. I expect him to clear. 3. With Biega it was always a question of whether the Canucks would carry an 8th guy on D, I think Biega will probably clear but he might not. He is a great 7th or 8th man -- a good teammate who can sit in the press box and play when needed -- and play a high energy game. 4. With Luke Schenn going on waivers today, my guess is that the Canucks put in a claim on him. Would love to see him back as 7th man. 5. It surprises a lot of people that Loui and Schaller were kept in preference to Baertschi. They both had a pretty mediocre camp. However, as I have repeated may times Loui is good on the PK and on shutdown and it sounds like that was the key reason to keep him over Baertschi. He won't score as much though, so there is a genuine tradeoff there. I don't think Schaller is out of the woods, If the Canucks do claim Schenn my guess is that he gets waived. 6. Great news that Boeser is healthy and ready to go. WIth him in the line-up the team looks better than it has at any time in past 4 years. 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 14 minutes ago, J-23 said: Modern NHL needs 3 lines that can produce. Baer would have fit nicely anywhere from first line to third. Move him up and down the lineup. 6 minutes ago, FaninMex said: It seems Green and Benning want 2 O and 2 D lines not the 3 O lines and 1 D line that CDC wants. Thus, it is about roles and extra forwards along with anything else they deemed worthy to help them make the choice of SB being on waivers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Ur a Towel said: There's a big misconception that our 3rd line will not be effective offensively. This is not entirely truthful. Sutter, Virtanen, Leivo, Gaudette, Roussel, hell even LE are all capable of scoring 15-20 goals. All of those forwards are good at both ends of the ice and most can and will play with some bite and physicality as well. And PK. Edited September 30, 2019 by aGENT 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PhillipBlunt Posted September 30, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 hour ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: NEWS | Brock Boeser on Returning to Lineup I like that Brock doesn’t let Tierney off the hook. Looking forward to Brock coming out raring to go. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekey Pete Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 I'm 100% on board with the fact that Gaudette made the team this year, but I don't understand why it had to be on the opening night roster. Come 1 or 2 weeks from now injuries are going to start happening league-wide, and finding a trade partner for a guy like Bear becomes easier. If Gaudette is a character guy (which I think he is), then he's okay with that arrangement. That said, congratulations AG for making the team! Easily the hardest working player this preseason, and he had the numbers to show it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dats hockey Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 15 minutes ago, J-23 said: I’ll say it again, should have just sent down Gaud if the solution was this. What if Gaud plays first 10 NHL games and we don’t see the same player we saw in pre season. What if Pearson doesn’t have that same chemistry with Bo? Keeping Baer gave us options. Bad look on management. He gets picked up by Oilers or something, he will play with McDavid. If the problem was loosing people sending LE and Schaller down would have been fine ain’t nobody picking up those contracts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, aGENT said: And if they waive/demote someone they likely gain that +/-...just saying. They are at $1.5mil of capspace with 23 contracts. Gagner clearing only saves them another mil, so they're still ~$1.1 short. Plus as mentioned, at 48 contracts. They could certainly use him, as he'd easily make their top-6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 What’s done is done. I’m sure this wasn’t deliberated upon easily. The regular season awaits! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, Dekey Pete said: I'm 100% on board with the fact that Gaudette made the team this year, but I don't understand why it had to be on the opening night roster. Come 1 or 2 weeks from now injuries are going to start happening league-wide, and finding a trade partner for a guy like Bear becomes easier. If Gaudette is a character guy (which I think he is), then he's okay with that arrangement. That said, congratulations AG for making the team! Easily the hardest working player this preseason, and he had the numbers to show it. All the more should he clear waivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuck-lifer Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 First of all kudos to JB and Green for rewarding Gaudette as the easy road to take would be to send him down. So now we have Schaller, Eriksson, Leivo and Gaudette that may rotate in and out of the lineup. Out of those 4 Schaller is the best fit for a grinding 4th liner/ PK, has chemistry with Beagle and Motte Eriksson is the best fit for a bottom 6 role and the PK and had a decent camp Gaudette is the best fit for a 3rd line centre/winger to give us 3 scoring lines depending on who we play and is ready to move into a top 6 role if needed Leivo is the best fit for 3rd to 4th liner that has chemistry on the PP Baer unfortunately didn't fit the top 6, still was not completely in game shape from his injuries and likely will clear waivers. He will get time in with Utica and if/when injuries happen to our top 6 he'll probably be the first call up. Have to think a trade is coming soon for one of our bottom 6 guys that actually may be a trade-able asset. JV, Leivo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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