theo5789 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 14 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Actually they will be paying Baertschi more to play in the minors than they would Eriksson. After his signing bonus Loui only has a base salary of 1 million. Baertschi has a base salary of 2.7 million. So I don’t see how ownership would be against keeping Baertschi up over Eriksson. They paid that bonus for this season, so it counts towards this season. Just cause it's paid already doesn't mean it's simply gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Just now, VforVirtanen said: I did not see this coming, that is true. Neither did most of our fan base. Either they are incapable of understanding our genius and should turn over team decisions to an internet vote or they know what they are doing. Given how our team looks now compared to before Benning took over, I am inclined to believe the latter is more likely. Especially when the reasons they have given make perfect sense and may end up being in Baer’s best interests as well. Benning bro out. Isn't that sort of a 'blind faith' mentality though? I like what Benning has done with the team this year as well, but I'm not going to overlook the fact that some glaring mistakes have been made along the way either. I don't think they're as numerous or as damaging as your typical HFBoard poster would have you believe, but they still exist, and to pretend that there isn't precedence for errors made from this management group just because the team 'looks good now' is flawed reasoning imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-SN- Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 1 hour ago, thrago said: Sorry if this has been asked before, when do we know if these guys have cleared waivers? 9 a.m. I think. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Just now, theo5789 said: They paid that bonus for this season, so it counts towards this season. Just cause it's paid already doesn't mean it's simply gone. It’s a lump sum paid in the summer. His actual salary which will be part of their season long operating costs will be 1 million. A signing bonus is separate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beary Sweet Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 I'm surprised Baer would be waived. He had fantastic chemistry with Gaud during the preseason and still has some chemistry with Bo if a vacant spot in the line came up. I hope he goes unclaimed and gets a call up to prove Benning wrong 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VforVasili Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 10 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: Isn't that sort of a 'blind faith' mentality though? I like what Benning has done with the team this year as well, but I'm not going to overlook the fact that some glaring mistakes have been made along the way either. I don't think they're as numerous or as damaging as your typical HFBoard poster would have you believe, but they still exist, and to pretend that there isn't precedence for errors made from this management group just because the team 'looks good now' is flawed reasoning imho. I don’t think it is. I just acknowledge that they have both expertise and a massive knowledge gap compared to the fan base (seeing every practice, knowing the players capabilities) that these decisions are based on far more than what we can see in a few games. They have earned my trust because I never expected a mistake-free performance from them. Every GM makes some mistakes. I suspect this wont be one of them any more than many other unpopular decisions that were later proven to be right. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeefcakeBo Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Wow. Is there any way he doesnt get claimed? Teams like Edmonton or Ottawa are bound to take a shot on him. This feels overly unfortunate as he's way better than at least a couple players not being waived. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, LarsEller said: Wow. Is there any way he doesnt get claimed? Teams like Edmonton or Ottawa are bound to take a shot on him. This feels overly unfortunate as he's way better than at least a couple players not being waived. I like Baer, but seriously doubt he gets claimed. He’s on a pretty big ticket for two more seasons. I’d be supper happy for him if he did get claimed though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket1994 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 12 minutes ago, VforVirtanen said: I don’t think it is. I just acknowledge that they have both expertise and a massive knowledge gap compared to the fan base (seeing every practice, knowing the players capabilities) that these decisions are based on far more than what we can see in a few games. They have earned my trust because I never expected a mistake-free performance from them. Every GM makes some mistakes. I suspect this wont be one of them any more than many other unpopular decisions that were later proven to be right. 100%!!! Couldn’t have said it better!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, IBatch said: True but scoring goals is important too. Management must have a reason for it - he’s a better player then quite a few of the guys they kept instead - one hit away from the end of his career is one debate - but it’s not like it can’t happen in Utica either. A head scratcher for sure. LE must be feeling some heat his job is definitely on the line if things don’t work out once things get going. I look at greens comments after preseason about Gaudette and how they were assessing his ability to play a checking role. As he wouldn't be given the offensive opportunities he was being given during the regular season. I think that same mentality is why we now see Bae and Goldy on the waiver wire. it's clear green wants his bottom 6 to shoulder the defensive load. LE is still here because dispite his lack of offense he is one of the most effective PKers on the team. I expect he will be waived when Roussel returns. Edited October 1, 2019 by hammertime 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Don't worry...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 28 minutes ago, DeNiro said: It’s a lump sum paid in the summer. His actual salary which will be part of their season long operating costs will be 1 million. A signing bonus is separate. Yes but it's paid for this season and cannot be ignored as being "paid less". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 10 minutes ago, LarsEller said: Wow. Is there any way he doesnt get claimed? Teams like Edmonton or Ottawa are bound to take a shot on him. This feels overly unfortunate as he's way better than at least a couple players not being waived. Melnyk doesn't care about winning enough to spend 3 million on improving the team. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeefcakeBo Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, Alflives said: I like Baer, but seriously doubt he gets claimed. He’s on a pretty big ticket for two more seasons. I’d be supper happy for him if he did get claimed though. Its really not much for a team with cap space though, and he is easily an upgrade for some teams on the wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionized27 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 8 minutes ago, LarsEller said: Wow. Is there any way he doesnt get claimed? Teams like Edmonton or Ottawa are bound to take a shot on him. This feels overly unfortunate as he's way better than at least a couple players not being waived. In reference to the bolded, in what role? The top six is set and Bärtschi is unsuited to a bottom six role, hence the demotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeefcakeBo Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Lionized27 said: In reference to the bolded, in what role? The top six is set and Bärtschi is unsuited to a bottom six role, hence the demotion. Bottom 6 roles are overrated in 2019. Teams are rolling 4 lines that can play, and baer is a responsible winger with some offensive talent. Its not like he has to play pk min or anything and its not like he's going to be a liability playing matchups. Edited October 1, 2019 by LarsEller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionized27 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, LarsEller said: Bottom 6 roles are overrated in 2019. Teams are rolling 4 lines that can play, and baer is a responsible winger with some offensive talent. Its not like he has to play pk min or anything and its not like he's going to be a liability playing matchups. The bottom six contains (mainly) your best defensive group. Bärtschi doesn't kill penalties as well as lost his spot on the PP. There's no room on the roster for a player with limited flexibility. Look at it this way, he'll have PLENTY of ice time in Utica. Edited October 1, 2019 by Lionized27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Coconuts Posted October 1, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 1, 2019 3 hours ago, Qwags said: I love how Green gives the media nothing most of the time, he's fantastic at handling them. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck2288 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 At over 3mm and the concussion issues, I don’t think Baer gets picks up I do think Goldy will get picked up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tower102 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Haven't read all pages, but what I have read, everyone is pissed at Benning and no talk of Green. Green tells Benning the roster he wants. I didn't see this coming, but it makes sense. LE and others can play down the lineup whereas Baer can not. If he does go unclaimed then we have a solid top 6 guy to call up for injuries. If he does get claimed we get cap relief. Baer would look good on Edm wings but they don't have the cap space from my memory. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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