[GDT] Canucks vs Coyotes - Wednesday March 4th 2020 at 7:30 PST - "Please don't lose again" Edition

[Kanukfanatic]

 

7 hours ago, Arrow 1983 said:

so no I really don't care if the Canucks win or lose I just like watching the game with my 2 sons, the other one is 2 and a half years old, 

 

 I highly recommend fans re-condition themselves to just love the game as it should be as a game.

I cheer for the Canucks to win. So yeah....no thanks on your advice.

[Kanukfanatic]

6 hours ago, Arrow 1983 said:

the difference is that in one scenario your playing the game in the other your watching the game

 

I believe in emotion in playing the game trust me I know I played till I was 22 

 

but negative emotions well watching a game seriously 

So...how about them thar Canucks!!

 

I sure hope they win on Wednesday night.  

[You Mad Bro?]

The argument between the “have fun and get your participation trophy” crowd and the “win and get your trophy” crowd has derailed this thread haha. Hopefully we can get this back on track. Also, participation trophies are garbage. What a terrible thing to teach children. It doesn’t matter how hard you work or what you accomplish. If you just show up people will award you. Jobs, degrees, raises, its all free! This is what’s lead to the entitled snowflakes we have today. Ok end rants. As far as the Canucks go. Huge 4 point game. Must be win. Expecting a good showing from the boys on home ice!

[IBatch]

6 hours ago, Arrow 1983 said:

I tell them to go have fun, 

 

here is a mind blower, talent is learned, but not taught

when kids have fun playing that is when kids learn to do all the tricks these players do 

you can teach structure, you can teach defence, but all you can do is encourage talent

 

and this is what I tell other coaches

 

my four year old can skate circles around 7-8 olds the reason is I tell him to try the things he sees Hockey players do, we watch past all star games and I tell him try that, doesn't that look fun

Soooo... good on you and your phenom son, sure his actual coaches have nothing to do with that too.  Yes in pee-wee you tell the kids to have fun. 

 

At the NHL level though?  TG "just go out there and have fun boys - we are looking to add Lafrenniere plans have changed". 

[Kevin Biestra]

50 minutes ago, IBatch said:

Soooo... good on you and your phenom son, sure his actual coaches have nothing to do with that too.  Yes in pee-wee you tell the kids to have fun. 

 

At the NHL level though?  TG "just go out there and have fun boys - we are looking to add Lafrenniere plans have changed". 

 

We need to make some roster changes and ice the all-fun have a good time on the ice, relax you'll give yourself a heart attack, not everything is a competition lineup if we want to see this culture really change for the better.

 

G

G

 

Mathieu Schneider - Shane O'Brien

D - D

D - D

 

Eriksson - Mark Messier - Wellwood

Prust - Kassian - Fedor Fedorov

F - F - F

F - F - F

 

 

 

 

[73 Percent]

Just now, Kevin Biestra said:

 

We need to make some roster changes and ice the all-fun have a good time on the ice, relax you'll give yourself a heart attack, not everything is a competition lineup if we want to see this culture really change for the better.

 

G

G

 

Mathieu Schneider - Shane O'Brien

D - D

D - D

 

Eriksson - Mark Messier - Wellwood

Prust - Kassian - Fedor Fedorov

F - F - F

F - F - F

 

 

 

 

Dont forget radim "i was told i would play with the twins" vrbata.

[GritGrinder]

7 hours ago, CaptKirk888 said:

That’s total bs. Before this 3 game slide we were 7-4-2 since the break.

And they were 11-3 before the break, so even though the word is not "treading" the Canucks have been trending downward since the break. When you have a 14 game stretch where you go 11-3 and then follow that up with a 14 game stretch where you go 7-5-2 that's trending in the wrong direction.

[Sikhguy23]

18 minutes ago, GritGrinder said:

And they were 11-3 before the break, so even though the word is not "treading" the Canucks have been trending downward since the break. When you have a 14 game stretch where you go 11-3 and then follow that up with a 14 game stretch where you go 7-5-2 that's trending in the wrong direction.

I don’t think it’s realistic to believe that over an 82 game season a team will be trending in the right direction all throughout. 

[GritGrinder]

1 minute ago, Sikhguy23 said:

I don’t think it’s realistic to believe that over an 82 game season a team will be trending in the right direction all throughout. 

Of course not, that wouldn't be a trend at all it would just be the whole time of the season. A trend looks at a subject (the NHL season) and breaks it up to see "how things are going"  during various parts of the season. The 14 games before the break the Canucks were on an upward trend the subsequent 14 they were on a downward trend. 

[rychicken]

Hi all,
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[riffraff]

46 minutes ago, Kevin Biestra said:

 

We need to make some roster changes and ice the all-fun have a good time on the ice, relax you'll give yourself a heart attack, not everything is a competition lineup if we want to see this culture really change for the better.

 

G

G

 

Mathieu Schneider - Shane O'Brien

D - D

D - D

 

Eriksson - Mark Messier - Wellwood

Prust - Kassian - Fedor Fedorov

F - F - F

F - F - F

 

 

 

 

I see there is room for Sanguinetti and Duco

[higgyfan]

10 hours ago, canuck2288 said:

It’s lonely there 

 

here I am amongst genuine loving friends 

If that's what you're looking for, there's always HF Board. 

[Wayne Glensky]

6-2 Yotes 

 

[Darius]

4 minutes ago, NeilColville said:

6-2 Yotes 

 

aw common Neil, you throwing in the towel already?

[IBatch]

42 minutes ago, GritGrinder said:

Of course not, that wouldn't be a trend at all it would just be the whole time of the season. A trend looks at a subject (the NHL season) and breaks it up to see "how things are going"  during various parts of the season. The 14 games before the break the Canucks were on an upward trend the subsequent 14 they were on a downward trend. 

A couple other times during the season the team had bad stretches, part of both were key injuries.  Losing Markstrom and BB has definitely impacted the team this time.    Even the best teams have bad stretches, difference between them and us is they have better players and deeper teams (WSH, Boston, TB and PIT).   PIT recently lost 6 in a row and are still struggling to get out of theirs - and Crosby is back.   The best I think we can hope for is the team rallying around each other and again pulling themselves out of the funk they are in.  If they can do that without Markstrom and BB then I'd say we are also a pretty solid team right now (and our coaching isn't terrible like some seem to think).  If not then just file this in the chest as just another Canuck failure.   It's a pretty full chest, but this is the Canucks after all and getting your heart ripped out is pretty normal ha ha. 

 

Who knows.  Maybe our goaltending will heat up - or our support players will start pitching in like they have many times earlier this season.   Maybe Tree will be allowed to comeback and be amazing.   Maybe he lose every game from here on out and TG is told not to let the door hit his ass on the way out.   Probably something in between.  

[-DLC-]

1 hour ago, Sikhguy23 said:

I don’t think it’s realistic to believe that over an 82 game season a team will be trending in the right direction all throughout. 

No team trends in the right direction "all throughout".  At least not many.  And then there have been the Tampa's....who did but then got knocked out.

 

Or the Blues, who were down and out then turned it around.

 

There can be a lot of volatility in things...much depending on timing, injuries, luck/hot cold streaks, officiating.

 

That's the beauty of this deal...that it can't be predicted on a runaway basis...that any team that makes it and has some good luck and timing can turn things into something.  It doesn't have to be sustained throughout.  Sure, there are predicted favourites but it's not a guarantee and it all resets come playoffs.  

 

All teams hit peaks and valleys.  This team has benefited from goaltending which has covered up some losses as wins.  But .... all teams "rely" on certain players at times to lead the charge.  We're not a whole lot different than other teams.  People just paint us as special in a bad way but really overlook a lot of good by doing that.

 

Many thought we'd finish in the bottom 5 or so this year.  So I'd say we've trended upward from that.

 

FTR, I liked what i heard from TG yesterday on the radio .... he is not about to apologize for his "style" of coaching.  Some call it stubbornness...I see it as consistent and unwavering.  We've seen the coaches of the past...poking, prodding, kicking, screaming.  He said he promised himself to remember what it feels like to be a player.....and that especially in a heated market like Van, NOT to throw his players under the bus.  He understands how that blows up here if the seed is planted.   I'm sure his players feel respected in that and it matters.

 

Sorry but it's a matter of be careful what you wish for.  Things don't always get better...they can become worse.

[Wayne Glensky]

23 minutes ago, Darius said:

aw common Neil, you throwing in the towel already?

No just prepared for the worst. I just hope the boys can pull themselves together and battle. That loss was a massive blow to team morality. I still have faith! 

[Nicklas Bo Hunter]

Did this up to show how important these games are:

 

CGY 15 75 pts 15GR: CBJ, ARI, VGK, NYI, WPG, NYR, NYI, NJD, TB, SJS, ANA, VAN, WPG, VGK, EDM
VAN 74pts 17GR: ARI, COL, CBJ, NYI, ARI, COL, WPG, TB, ANA,LAK, VGK, SJS, CGY,ANA,DAL, ARI, VGK
NSH 72pts 17GR: MIN, DAL, DAL, MTL, TOR, CBJ, MIN,COL,PHI, CHI, WPG,LAK,ARI, COL, MTL, PHI, MIN
WPG 72pts 15GR: BUF, VGK, ARI, EDM, CGY, VAN, FLA, MIN, DAL,NSH,COL, VGK, CGY, COL, ARI
ARI 72pts 15GR: VAN, CGY, WPG, VAN, NYR, DAL, VGK, DET,LAK, VGK,NSH, SJS, COL, VAN, WPG
MIN 71pts 17GR: NSH, SJS, LAK, ANA, VGK, PHI, NSH, CHI, CHI, WPG, COL, NJD, BUF, STL, NYI, WSH, NSH

ARI = 1 CGY, 2 WPG, 1 NSH, 3 VAN:  Most points they can get= 16pts,OTL= 8pts
NSH= 3 MIN, 1 WPG, 1 ARI: Most pts they can get= 10pts, OTL= 5pts
WPG= 2 ARI, 2 CGY, 1 VAN: Most pts they can get= 10pts, OTL= 5pts
MIN= 3 NSH, 1 WPG: Most pts they can get= 8pts, OTL= 4pts
CGY= 1 ARI, 2 WPG, 1 VAN: Most pts they can get= 8pts, OTL= 4pts
VAN = 3 ARI, 1WPG, 1 CGY: Most pts they can get= 10pts, OTL= 5pts
 
ARI MAX = 88pts, ARI MID = 80pts, ARI LOW=72pts GR= 8
CGY MAX= 83pts, CGY MID = 79pts, CGY LOW= 75pts GR= 11
NSH MAX= 82pts, NSH MID= 77pts, NSH LOW= 72pts GR= 13
WPG MAX= 82pts, WPG MID= 77pts, WPG LOW= 72pts GR= 10
MIN MAX= 79pts, MIN MID= 75pts, MIN LOW= 71pts GR= 13
VAN MAX= 84pts, VAN MIN= 79pts, Van Low= 74pts GR= 12

 

Things I take away from this.... Calgary really are not in a great position. Arizona is in for some very important games that could actually lead them into the playoffs or screw them over entirely. WPG is really not that big of a threat to us. the ones that scare me the most are MIN and NSH.

[sassbs]

1 minute ago, NeilColville said:

No just prepared for the worst. I just hope the boys can pull themselves together and battle. That loss was a massive blow to team morality. I still have faith! 

If this team looses again tonight with little effort, how much faith will still be left in the tank?

 

 

[JeremyCuddles]

This is about as must win as it gets. Not only for points but just for overall morale. Boys gotta wake up and play. No slow start, no letting off the gas in the 3rd. Arizona is a team that struggles to score. We can't be giving up beach ball goals against. Or crucial late game PPs. Keep breakaways to a minimum. I don't care if the game is boring to watch. We need wins, especially against divisional rivals.