Coronavirus outbreak

[Alflives 37,238]

17 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

where in the bible did Jesus say don't get vaccinated?

 

 

 

Nearly half of Americans who are unvaccinated say they will definitely not get the coronavirus vaccine, according to a new poll.

The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research poll reported that 46 percent of the unvaccinated said they will definitely not get the vaccine and 29 percent said they will probably not get the vaccine. 

Those who are most hesitant to get the coronavirus vaccine include white evangelicals, Republicans, rural Americans, young adults and those without college degrees. 

So the blissfully ignorant.  I’d guess a large proportion of these persons are grossly overweight (or even obese) so sadly many of them end up with the worst symptoms and in hospital.  

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7010e4.htm

[Jimmy McGill 46,449]

4 minutes ago, Alflives said:

So the blissfully ignorant.  I’d guess a large proportion of these persons are grossly overweight (or even obese) so sadly many of them end up with the worst symptoms and in hospital.  

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7010e4.htm

I think I'd say willfully ignorant. The common thread there is distrust. When Tucker Carlson starts to sound reasonable you're in trouble. 

[King Heffy 32,547]

1 hour ago, thedestroyerofworlds said:

46% won't.  29% probably won't.  65% of American adults have gotten at least 1 dose.  If the remaining 35% who haven't gotten a shot follow the polling numbers, that means the absolute best that can be achieved is around 84%.  The worst (if all the probably won't people don't) is around 74%.  

 

 

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/559122-poll-46-percent-of-unvaccinated-say-they-will-definitely-not-get-vaccine

Poll: 46 percent of unvaccinated say they will definitely not get vaccine

Can't fix stupid.  Just don't let any of those morons into civilized countries.

[bishopshodan 11,981]

On 6/18/2021 at 8:38 AM, thedestroyerofworlds said:

 

From what I've gathered, they were only allowing people vaccinated with FDA approved vaccines (that means vaccines with emergency use authorization).  AstraZeneca, surprisingly, hasn't been FDA approved in the US.  I think that they haven't received FDA approval because of issues with their data for US approval.  

 

 

https://www.wsj.com/articles/astrazeneca-weighs-seeking-full-u-s-approval-for-covid-shot-skipping-emergency-use-application-11620423584

AstraZeneca Weighs Seeking Full U.S. Approval for Covid Shot, Skipping Emergency-Use Application

British drugmaker faces challenges gathering data; may wait to apply for full approval by the FDA, which takes longer

Yes, its an FDA thing.

 

Other shows are doing it too, live taping's of Jimmy Fallon and SNL according to the below article. 

But the Boss show has changed it's tune now.

 

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2021/06/19/coronavirus-covid-19-updates-toronto-canada-june-19.html

 

[Jimmy McGill 46,449]

@erkayloomeh you're more in tune with this community - why are evangelicals in the US against getting vaccinated?

[Ghostsof1915 38,069]

Just now, Jimmy McGill said:

@erkayloomeh you're more in tune with this community - why are evangelicals in the US against getting vaccinated?

Because religious nuts always hate logic and science/engineering/ and medicine. 

[Jimmy McGill 46,449]

1 minute ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

Because religious nuts always hate logic and science/engineering/ and medicine. 

I'm curious if there's something more specific. 

[Ghostsof1915 38,069]

1 minute ago, Jimmy McGill said:

I'm curious if there's something more specific. 

Less money for churches, and private jets? 

[Jimmy McGill 46,449]

4 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

Less money for churches, and private jets? 

stop it, you're going to scare off erkay.

 

I'd like to know the specific thing going on there. My wife's mom has dementia, and one of her caregivers is evangelical and won't get the vaccine. Its obviously a big problem for us, but the hard part is she's the only caregiver that her mom really responds well to now. 

[Canuckster86 3,815]

7 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

stop it, you're going to scare off erkay.

 

I'd like to know the specific thing going on there. My wife's mom has dementia, and one of her caregivers is evangelical and won't get the vaccine. Its obviously a big problem for us, but the hard part is she's the only caregiver that her mom really responds well to now. 

Get her to always wear a mask even after it is not mandatory. Just cause we get vaccinated doesn't mean we CAN'T get Covid or still spread it, something I think people are overlooking. It should only majorly affect the Covidiots who haven't or won' get the shot, they will be the ones in the hospital but in your case its $&!#ty knowing that the caregiver won't get it!

 

Really wish we would push to make anti vacciners sign a document stating if they ever get Covid after NOT geting vaccinated you are liable for ALL medical expenses...That will either make this fools get the shot or go broke if we charge the same as the US does for hospital treatment. Hit them where it hurts the most, their bank accounts!!

[Canorth 5,414]

25 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

@erkayloomeh you're more in tune with this community - why are evangelicals in the US against getting vaccinated?

 

Cause this guy told them so?

 

 

That picture alone makes me want to get all my Pfizer leeched out of me, ASAP!

[Jimmy McGill 46,449]

13 minutes ago, Canuckster86 said:

Get her to always wear a mask even after it is not mandatory. Just cause we get vaccinated doesn't mean we CAN'T get Covid or still spread it, something I think people are overlooking. It should only majorly affect the Covidiots who haven't or won' get the shot, they will be the ones in the hospital but in your case its $&!#ty knowing that the caregiver won't get it!

 

Really wish we would push to make anti vacciners sign a document stating if they ever get Covid after NOT geting vaccinated you are liable for ALL medical expenses...That will either make this fools get the shot or go broke if we charge the same as the US does for hospital treatment. Hit them where it hurts the most, their bank accounts!!

its a tough situation, when this caregiver isn't there my wife's mom basically retreats into a fog, sleeps 23 1/2 hours per day. When she is there, she's responsive, eats properly, remembers people, etc. Just something about the person brings her back. 

 

We did get her mom vaccinated so thats at least in place. I'd just like to know what the hell is the issue, maybe we can find some sort of solution. 

 

Edited June 19 by Jimmy McGill

[4petesake 4,475]

11 minutes ago, Canorth said:

 

Cause this guy told them so?

 

 

That picture alone makes me want to get all my Pfizer leeched out of me, ASAP!

Yikes! If someone was describing ol’ beelzebub hisself in human skin, this might be it.   

[bishopshodan 11,981]

1 minute ago, 4petesake said:

Yikes! If someone was describing ol’ beelzebub hisself in human skin, this might be it.   

Exactly what I was thinking..

 

I know evil when it's pointing it's gnarly little fingers at me.

[Alflives 37,238]

19 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

its a tough situation, when this caregiver isn't there my wife's mom basically retreats into a fog, sleeps 23 1/2 hours per day. When she is there, she's responsive, eats properly, remembers people, etc. Just something about the person brings her back. 

 

We did get her mom vaccinated so thats at least in place. I'd just like to know what the hell is the issue, maybe we can find some sort of solution. 

 

If the mom is vaccinated then she’s safe, right?  Aren’t these vaccines pretty near 100% effective against serious Cov disease?

Its the non vaccinated who are at serious risk, no?   

[erkayloomeh 1,517]

1 hour ago, Jimmy McGill said:

@erkayloomeh you're more in tune with this community - why are evangelicals in the US against getting vaccinated?

There are those in the Christian community who are against vaccination ( the more vocal ones) 

And there are those who are not against it. (The ones you don't hear from)

In my community and the circles that I work and hang with that are not Christian have alot against it as well.!!!!!  I'm not sure why you think it's only Christians because clearly it's not. 

In those conversations that I have the general feeling that I get from those particular people (Christian or not) is that there is no trust anymore for our leaders.

With the end times beliefs and prophecies that are in the Bible alot of the preachers are teaching we are near the end. They have alot of the Christian community scared and thinking there is an evil motive behind absolutely everything. 

This is how it seems to me. 

[Alflives 37,238]

14 minutes ago, erkayloomeh said:

There are those in the Christian community who are against vaccination ( the more vocal ones) 

And there are those who are not against it. (The ones you don't hear from)

In my community and the circles that I work and hang with that are not Christian have alot against it as well.!!!!!  I'm not sure why you think it's only Christians because clearly it's not. 

In those conversations that I have the general feeling that I get from those particular people (Christian or not) is that there is no trust anymore for our leaders.

With the end times beliefs and prophecies that are in the Bible alot of the preachers are teaching we are near the end. They have alot of the Christian community scared and thinking there is an evil motive behind absolutely everything. 

This is how it seems to me. 

Aren’t there something like 3000 different Christian church’s out there?  I’m thinking the vast majority of Christian churches encourage vaccination.  

[Chip Kelly 2,662]

39 minutes ago, Alflives said:

If the mom is vaccinated then she’s safe, right?  Aren’t these vaccines pretty near 100% effective against serious Cov disease?

Its the non vaccinated who are at serious risk, no?   

When things open up and crowds in indoor spaces and outdoor spaces alike are no longer frowned upon, people unable or unwilling to get vaccinated may be at greater risk from the idiots who think that they are bulletproof after getting a few jabs and think they don't have to maintain any basic hygiene and go back to not washing their hands and eating food off the floor not to mention kissing,shaking hands,hugging and sharing personal items and personal spaces again without maks sanitizer and plexi and gloves to protect them.

 

The only way to be safe is to stay in your own bubble in your home dont let people in or out other than essential trips.

 

Is that a sustainable lifestyle for thr majority of people?

 

I don't think so... if you are delaying getting the vaccine you are just prolonging the inevitable!!!

[Alflives 37,238]

4 minutes ago, Chip Kelly said:

When things open up and crowds in indoor spaces and outdoor spaces alike are no longer frowned upon, people unable or unwilling to get vaccinated may be at greater risk from the idiots who think that they are bulletproof after getting a few jabs and think they don't have to maintain any basic hygiene and go back to not washing their hands and eating food off the floor not to mention kissing,shaking hands,hugging and sharing personal items and personal spaces again without maks sanitizer and plexi and gloves to protect them.

 

The only way to be safe is to stay in your own bubble in your home dont let people in or out other than essential trips.

 

Is that a sustainable lifestyle for thr majority of people?

 

I don't think so... if you are delaying getting the vaccine you are just prolonging the inevitable!!!

Ya, I just don’t see why anyone would not want to be vaccinated.  

[Chip Kelly 2,662]

On 6/17/2021 at 6:00 PM, Silent Man said:

I had Moderns as the first shot and Pfizer as the second

No side effects whatsoever 

 

 

 

You probably had a weaker form of Covid before and didn't know it. Either that or something wrong with your immune system if no reaction at all.

 

Then again your body could be used to having lots of drugs and foreign substances mixed in.

 

For most people they have some sort of reaction like severe soreness swelling or redness. Nausea, fever, and vomiting and diarrhea even i have heard about.