Popular Post -DLC- Posted June 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 30, 2021 29 new cases today....not new deaths. We're in the home stretch....I feel like they're pushing things a little too quickly. All of a sudden a huge leap to normality but it seems a little premature. Would prefer to wait until those who want to be fully vaccinated are. My kids being the focus there for me. The numbers are low, but that can change (as we've seen before). 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilunga Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 52 minutes ago, debluvscanucks said: 29 new cases today....not new deaths. We're in the home stretch....I feel like they're pushing things a little too quickly. All of a sudden a huge leap to normality but it seems a little premature. Would prefer to wait until those who want to be fully vaccinated are. My kids being the focus there for me. The numbers are low, but that can change (as we've seen before). We had nearly 3 months of no cases and then it burst again. Another few months of no cases and then it burst again. Your government is dealing with vaccination far better than our bunch of incompetent morons so here's hoping there is some light at the end of the tunnel for you in Canada. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RU SERIOUS Posted June 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 30, 2021 7 hours ago, debluvscanucks said: 29 new cases today....no new deaths. We're in the home stretch....I feel like they're pushing things a little too quickly. All of a sudden a huge leap to normality but it seems a little premature. Would prefer to wait until those who want to be fully vaccinated are. My kids being the focus there for me. The numbers are low, but that can change (as we've seen before). Well said, I too will not remove my mask for a very long time, as many of my neighbors and friends have caught Covid as i unfortunately live in "the petrie dish neighborhood of the lower mainland" (Surrey), where many are not yet vacinated and we've had the most contaminated people in BC and Canada. I still can't imagine sitting at a canucks game next to strangers - wondering if they're one of the unvaccinated people from my neighborhood and risk getting sick, stuck with Long-Haul symptoms or possibly even dying just because they breathed on me from 2 feet away. Until 85% of the entire population is fully vacinated - and the numbers stay consistantly down for months - not days, I'm not taking any chances and neither should anyone and lets not even talk about the rapidly spreading Indian/Delta variant that ravaging countries all over the world and starting to spread in Canada quickly. God help us if that takes hold here. I hope I am completely wrong - but suspect that this is not over yet and we all need to be careful at the least for some time to come. 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RU SERIOUS Posted June 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 30, 2021 9 hours ago, Alflives said: Been thinking more on your point, and you’re right. At some point the selfish antivaxxer-antimasker goofballs will be wandering amongst us without masks and without being vaccinated spreading disease and stupidity. Like you say, it’s inevitable. I Still think this should have waited until everyone has had the opportunity to be fully protected (with their second dose) from the selfish idiots and the foolish morons. It's too bad the federal Gov't can't just pass some type of law to herd all the Anti-Vaxers/Flat-earth believers into one isolated place like Alberta - where they are cut-off a thousand miles from the nearest civilized city and can do no harm to normal people. 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 2 hours ago, RU SERIOUS said: It's too bad the federal Gov't can't just pass some type of law to herd all the Anti-Vaxers/Flat-earth believers into one isolated place like Alberta - where they are cut-off a thousand miles from the nearest civilized city and can do no harm to normal people. The ‘Maskchinians’. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JM_ Posted June 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 30, 2021 4 hours ago, RU SERIOUS said: It's too bad the federal Gov't can't just pass some type of law to herd all the Anti-Vaxers/Flat-earth believers into one isolated place like Alberta - where they are cut-off a thousand miles from the nearest civilized city and can do no harm to normal people. they kind of gravitated their own way there already. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johngould21 Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Jimmy McGill said: they kind of gravitated their own way there already. We have an SFU student renting with us from Alberta. She is fully vaccinated, is studying sciences, with a masters degree on the horizon. Her father and many of her family aren't getting vaccinated, because of their "healthy immune system". Two days ago we heard the same thing from a friend of my wife, whose niece and her husband resisted on getting the vaccines. One works in administration for a Province wide organization and her husband is self employed. Guess what? Hubbie spends 17 days in ICU, and was on a ventilator for a time. Both are currently long haulers with brain fog among the symptoms. Nothing more than the flu! Edited June 30, 2021 by johngould21 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 8 minutes ago, johngould21 said: We have an SFU student renting with us from Alberta. Her father and many of her family aren't getting vaccinated, because of their "healthy immune system". Two days ago we heard the same thing from a friend of my wife, whose niece and her husband resisted on getting the vaccines. One works in administration for a Province wide organization and her husband is self employed. Guess what? Hubbie spends 17 days in ICU, and was on a ventilator for a time. Both are currently long haulers with brain fog among the symptoms. Nothing more than the flu! Have they learned from their experiences? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 I think people are getting too far ahead of themselves with the variants and all floating about. I would see how the late fall goes before saying we're truly out of the woods. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, johngould21 said: We have an SFU student renting with us from Alberta. Her father and many of her family aren't getting vaccinated, because of their "healthy immune system". Two days ago we heard the same thing from a friend of my wife, whose niece and her husband resisted on getting the vaccines. One works in administration for a Province wide organization and her husband is self employed. Guess what? Hubbie spends 17 days in ICU, and was on a ventilator for a time. Both are currently long haulers with brain fog among the symptoms. Nothing more than the flu! yeah that sounds about right. Pseudo-medical beliefs about ones own immune system is some scary BS to tell yourself. One of my daughters best friends parents believe covid is a "hoax". Guess where the dad works 3 weeks at a time? Edited June 30, 2021 by Jimmy McGill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johngould21 Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 25 minutes ago, Dazzle said: Have they learned from their experiences? Describe "learn"? I doubt it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4petesake Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: yeah that sounds about right. Pseudo-medical beliefs about ones own immune system is some scary BS to tell yourself. One of my daughters best friends parents believe covid is a "hoax". Guess where the dad works 3 weeks at a time? Not only scary but damn dangerous as well, as in this story from last year. A parent who would decide to take medical advice from a Facebook anti-vax group rather than a doctor is criminally stupid. Members of an anti-vaxx group who would offer advice to disregard a doctor to a parent of a child in medical distress are equivalent to encouraging a murder or suicide. On a side note I searched and was able to find everything but the potato in the socks part of the story so that may have been needlessly gratuitous. Edited June 30, 2021 by 4petesake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 13 minutes ago, 4petesake said: Not only scary but damn dangerous as well, as in this story from last year. A parent who would decide to take medical advice from a Facebook anti-vax group rather than a doctor is criminally stupid. Members of an anti-vaxx group who would offer advice to disregard a doctor to a parent of a child in medical distress are equivalent to encouraging a murder or suicide. On a side note I searched and was able to find everything but the potato in the socks part of the story so that may have been needlessly gratuitous. I don't know why some people are attracted to these kinds of groups. When I hear people say western medicine has failed us I just feel sad for them, 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKNuck96 Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-57667987 Uk to start giving third dose ‘boosters’ in september The NHS has been given the green light to start planning a Covid vaccine booster programme in the UK ahead of this winter. A bigger flu season than normal is expected, meaning extra protection against Covid is likely to be needed. More than 30 million of the most vulnerable should receive a third dose, vaccine experts are advising. They will include all adults aged 50 and over, and anyone younger who qualifies for a flu jab. Health service bosses had previously said they needed lots of warning of an autumn Covid-19 booster rollout in order to plan the logistics alongside vaccinating millions of people against flu. Interim advice from the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI) is that boosters will help maintain protection against Covid-19 and new variants for those most at risk, before winter comes. How many people have been vaccinated so far? Can you get your vaccine without an appointment? Do you still need to self-isolate if you're vaccinated? The vaccines are thought to protect most people against serious illness for at least six months, but a lack of data on exactly how long immunity lasts is prompting a safety-first approach. No decisions have yet been made on which vaccines will be used. Winter flu comeback Prof Jonathan Van-Tam, deputy chief medical officer for England, said: "We want to be on the front foot for Covid-19 booster vaccination to keep the probability of loss of vaccine protection, due to waning immunity or variants, as low as possible - especially over the coming autumn and winter." He said other respiratory viruses, particularly flu, "will make a comeback" and be an additional problem this winter. "We will need to ensure protection against flu, as well as maintaining protection against Covid-19," Prof Van-Tam said. Health and Social Care Secretary Sajid Javid said ministers were working with the NHS to rapidly deliver the programme from September. "Our first Covid-19 vaccination programme is restoring freedom in this country, and our booster programme will protect this freedom," he said. Scotland's health secretary Humza Yousaf said the government had been working closely with NHS boards to plan for the booster campaign, while the current vaccination programme "continues at pace and remains on schedule". Wales' Health Minister Eluned Morgan said she was working with Welsh health boards to ensure they can deliver a booster programme "from the start of September". "In line with the other nations of the UK, the Welsh government welcomes the JCVI advice," she said. "It very much aligns with our thinking and our planning assumptions to date." The JCVI's final advice will be published before September, when better data will be available on how long protection from the first two doses of the vaccines lasts. The latest figures on hospitalisations, emerging variants and trials will also be taken into account at that point, and could change their advice. Who could get a third dose? In the meantime, the JCVI's advice is to offer a third Covid jab (and a flu jab) to the following people from September 2021: adults aged 16 and over who are immunosuppressed or clinically extremely vulnerable residents in care homes for older adults all adults aged 70 and over frontline health and social care workers After those groups, it will be: all adults aged 50 and over adults aged 16-49 who are in a flu or Covid-19 at-risk group those living in the same house as people who are immunosuppressed Prof Wei Shen Lim, Covid-19 chair for JCVI, said all these groups would also be eligible for the annual flu vaccine and were strongly advised to have it. Younger adults will be not be given a third dose, because they will only have had their second dose in the summer, although this decision will be revisited at a later time, the JCVI said. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mj2345 Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 (edited) Getting my second dose in a couple of hours Edited June 30, 2021 by Mj2345 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mj2345 Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 I was in and out of the pharmacy pretty good, took me in right away and just waited the 15 mins afterwards seemed much more organized this time around whereas the first time so many people there I think they were overwhelmed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JM_ Posted June 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 30, 2021 just got my 2nd shot, Moderna this time. 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RU SERIOUS Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 16 hours ago, UKNuck96 said: Who could get a third dose? In the meantime, the JCVI's advice is to offer a third Covid jab (and a flu jab) to the following people from September 2021: adults aged 16 and over who are immunosuppressed or clinically extremely vulnerable residents in care homes for older adults all adults aged 70 and over frontline health and social care workers After those groups, it will be: all adults aged 50 and over adults aged 16-49 who are in a flu or Covid-19 at-risk group those living in the same house as people who are immunosuppressed Prof Wei Shen Lim, Covid-19 chair for JCVI, said all these groups would also be eligible for the annual flu vaccine and were strongly advised to have it. Younger adults will be not be given a third dose, because they will only have had their second dose in the summer, although this decision will be revisited at a later time, the JCVI said. I assume this doesn't apply to Albertans ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimito Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 On 6/30/2021 at 12:18 PM, johngould21 said: We have an SFU student renting with us from Alberta. She is fully vaccinated, is studying sciences, with a masters degree on the horizon. Her father and many of her family aren't getting vaccinated, because of their "healthy immune system". Two days ago we heard the same thing from a friend of my wife, whose niece and her husband resisted on getting the vaccines. One works in administration for a Province wide organization and her husband is self employed. Guess what? Hubbie spends 17 days in ICU, and was on a ventilator for a time. Both are currently long haulers with brain fog among the symptoms. Nothing more than the flu! People mistakenly think vaccines are only needed in people with poor immune system. But if you ask them if they will be willing to get infected by HIV or Ebola and test it out, I bet very few will sign up. In reality, vaccines won't work well in people with weakened immune system. More reason to reach community immunity via vaccination to protect them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimito Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 On 6/30/2021 at 6:26 PM, Jimmy McGill said: just got my 2nd shot, Moderna this time. Your 5G is going to work very well with the new Windows 11. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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