[GDT/PGT] Vancouver Canucks @ Winnipeg Jets | January 30, 2021 | 7 p.m. PT | NHLN, CBC, SN, TVAS2

[Wayne Glensky]

Just now, N7Nucks said:

Doing good doesn't mean we can't do better. Why are you taking this to such an extreme? Guy was just suggesting ways to play hockey and minimize travel. You had to go overboard to a stupid level.

Don’t worry Tesla will be coming out with an electric plane. Keeps all the armchair climate activists happy. 

[Gurn]

18 minutes ago, CptCanuck16 said:

Personally I like the new format of less travel and playing mini-series against the same teams. I actually suggested something along the same lines years ago, long before COVID, to help combat climate change. Flying 5,000kms to play 1 game then flying all the way back is just silly. Its hard on the players, a waste of money, and has a terrible environmental impact. 

Can you point out exactly when the Canucks flew those klicks and only played one game?

[Wayne Glensky]

Just now, gurn said:

Can you point out exactly when the Canucks flew those klicks and only played one game?

Thank you 

[tas]

2 minutes ago, gurn said:

Major hyperbole here. "Jake went to the pub one night"    reaction-"OMG Jake hasn't done a single push up this off season."

Jake spent time in the Okanogan working out with Myers,  so I doubt shape is the problem this season.

unfortunately his brain can only bench like 110.

[bishopshodan]

I love Jake, the environment and I am becoming Vegan. 

 

 

Boom. 

[tas]

2 minutes ago, bishopshodan said:

I love Jake, the environment and I am becoming Vegan. 

 

 

Boom. 

gross

[Gurn]

5 minutes ago, Wayne Glensky said:

Don’t worry Tesla will be coming out with an electric plane. Keeps all the armchair climate activists happy. 

Already an electric plane flying in B.C.

Harbour Air:

https://www.richmond-news.com/local-news/harbour-air-makes-history-with-test-flight-of-worlds-first-electric-commercial-plane-in-richmond-3112849#:~:text=While Tuesday’s test flight is a big step,further developed longer flights will still require fuel.

A three-minute flight over the Fraser River Tuesday morning will go down in aviation history, according to the plane’s developers.

Harbour Air completed its debut test flight of what the Richmond-based company says is the world’s first all-electric commercial aircraft.

The bright yellow, six-passenger DCH-2 de Havilland Beaver float plane, retrofitted with a 750 horsepower all-electric magni500 engine, was flown solo by Harbour Air founder and chief executive Greg McDougall.

McDougall spent just moments in the air, flying over the middle arm of the Fraser to Terra Nova before circling back to land, while over one hundred onlookers and media assembled to witness the historic moment.

Harbour Air first announced its plan to build the zero-emission electric plane in March, after the company partnered with Seattle-based MagniX, to design the plane’s propulsion system, which utilizes a NASA-standard battery – also used in the International Space Station.

Both companies wanted the plane in the air by the end of 2019.

“Eleven months ago, there was nothing,” said MagniX chief executive Roei Ganzarski. “That’s unheard of in aerospace. And now we have a flying aircraft.”

Ganzarski compared the test flight to the Wright brothers’ 1903 flight, which launched the aviation age, and the first flight of the Heinkel He 178 jet aircraft in 1939 that propelled the world into the jet age.

Tuesday’s flight, said Ganzarski, marks the start of the electric aviation age.

The test flight was originally scheduled for Dec. 11, but was moved forward by one day due to weather.

“It was an amazingly great performance,” said McDougall. “We had no way of knowing really exactly how the aircraft was going to perform until we actually flew it and that was the first real time it was flown.”

McDougall, who is a Tesla owner, said he was inspired by that company’s technology.

“I thought, we’ve got to put this in an aircraft. It’s one thing to have it in a car, but we’ve got this amazing technology and it would work so well on aircraft,” said McDougall, adding that he also knew transportation is evolving into electric.

Harbour Air retrofitted a 62-year-old float plane with MagniX’s motor system.

ccording to McDougall, the Beaver takes well to modification and was previously modified for turbine engines.

The company also employs DCH-3 de Havilland Otter float planes, a larger version of the Beaver, which can seat up to 14 passengers and are also easily modified. 

While Tuesday’s test flight is a big step forward to getting the e-plane certified for commercial use, Harbour Air estimates that process will take around two years.

Currently, the e-plane has a range of around 100 miles, so until the technology is further developed longer flights will still require fuel. Ultimately, the company plans on retrofitting all of its 53 aircraft with electric motors after the certification process.

The e-plane will also be more cost effective, according to both McDougall and Ganzarski, as operating costs are between 50 to 80 per cent cheaper per hour than fuel.

According to Harbour Air, the aviation industry currently contributes 12 per cent of all U.S. carbon emissions and 4.9 per cent globally.

McDougall said he thinks it will be a long time before long haul flights are completely electric. Likely, he said, larger aircraft will first use a hybrid model.

“We’re very uniquely positioned to be able to take advantage of (this technology) a lot sooner,” said McDougall, referring to the much shorter distances flown by Harbour Air.

Harbour Air isn’t the first company to dream of building an electric commercial aircraft.

Eviation Alice, based in Israel, is currently developing an electric commuter plane, but unlike Harbour Air, Eviation is building the aircraft from the ground up. The company unveiled a prototype in June at the Paris Air Show and a test flight is scheduled for early next year.

Rolls Royce is also planning a trial of its electric Accel plane, while Airbus is developing the E-Fan X, a hybrid-electric aircraft. A prototype could be in the air in 2021.

“I think the idea of electric aviation, getting rid of emissions, lowering operating costs, is one that the worldwide community should embrace,” said Ganzarski.

“And so the more companies that get into it, the better, but we’ll be there right in front leading the way.”

[Wayne Glensky]

1 minute ago, gurn said:

Already an electric plane flying in B.C.

Harbour Air:

https://www.richmond-news.com/local-news/harbour-air-makes-history-with-test-flight-of-worlds-first-electric-commercial-plane-in-richmond-3112849#:~:text=While Tuesday’s test flight is a big step,further developed longer flights will still require fuel.

A three-minute flight over the Fraser River Tuesday morning will go down in aviation history, according to the plane’s developers.

Harbour Air completed its debut test flight of what the Richmond-based company says is the world’s first all-electric commercial aircraft.

The bright yellow, six-passenger DCH-2 de Havilland Beaver float plane, retrofitted with a 750 horsepower all-electric magni500 engine, was flown solo by Harbour Air founder and chief executive Greg McDougall.

McDougall spent just moments in the air, flying over the middle arm of the Fraser to Terra Nova before circling back to land, while over one hundred onlookers and media assembled to witness the historic moment.

Harbour Air first announced its plan to build the zero-emission electric plane in March, after the company partnered with Seattle-based MagniX, to design the plane’s propulsion system, which utilizes a NASA-standard battery – also used in the International Space Station.

Both companies wanted the plane in the air by the end of 2019.

“Eleven months ago, there was nothing,” said MagniX chief executive Roei Ganzarski. “That’s unheard of in aerospace. And now we have a flying aircraft.”

Ganzarski compared the test flight to the Wright brothers’ 1903 flight, which launched the aviation age, and the first flight of the Heinkel He 178 jet aircraft in 1939 that propelled the world into the jet age.

Tuesday’s flight, said Ganzarski, marks the start of the electric aviation age.

The test flight was originally scheduled for Dec. 11, but was moved forward by one day due to weather.

“It was an amazingly great performance,” said McDougall. “We had no way of knowing really exactly how the aircraft was going to perform until we actually flew it and that was the first real time it was flown.”

McDougall, who is a Tesla owner, said he was inspired by that company’s technology.

“I thought, we’ve got to put this in an aircraft. It’s one thing to have it in a car, but we’ve got this amazing technology and it would work so well on aircraft,” said McDougall, adding that he also knew transportation is evolving into electric.

Harbour Air retrofitted a 62-year-old float plane with MagniX’s motor system.

ccording to McDougall, the Beaver takes well to modification and was previously modified for turbine engines.

The company also employs DCH-3 de Havilland Otter float planes, a larger version of the Beaver, which can seat up to 14 passengers and are also easily modified. 

While Tuesday’s test flight is a big step forward to getting the e-plane certified for commercial use, Harbour Air estimates that process will take around two years.

Currently, the e-plane has a range of around 100 miles, so until the technology is further developed longer flights will still require fuel. Ultimately, the company plans on retrofitting all of its 53 aircraft with electric motors after the certification process.

The e-plane will also be more cost effective, according to both McDougall and Ganzarski, as operating costs are between 50 to 80 per cent cheaper per hour than fuel.

According to Harbour Air, the aviation industry currently contributes 12 per cent of all U.S. carbon emissions and 4.9 per cent globally.

McDougall said he thinks it will be a long time before long haul flights are completely electric. Likely, he said, larger aircraft will first use a hybrid model.

“We’re very uniquely positioned to be able to take advantage of (this technology) a lot sooner,” said McDougall, referring to the much shorter distances flown by Harbour Air.

Harbour Air isn’t the first company to dream of building an electric commercial aircraft.

Eviation Alice, based in Israel, is currently developing an electric commuter plane, but unlike Harbour Air, Eviation is building the aircraft from the ground up. The company unveiled a prototype in June at the Paris Air Show and a test flight is scheduled for early next year.

Rolls Royce is also planning a trial of its electric Accel plane, while Airbus is developing the E-Fan X, a hybrid-electric aircraft. A prototype could be in the air in 2021.

“I think the idea of electric aviation, getting rid of emissions, lowering operating costs, is one that the worldwide community should embrace,” said Ganzarski.

“And so the more companies that get into it, the better, but we’ll be there right in front leading the way.”

Thanks for that 

[CptCanuck16]

12 minutes ago, gurn said:

Can you point out exactly when the Canucks flew those klicks and only played one game?

Sure. It took me about 30 seconds to find an example. Jan 23, 2016 the Canucks played in Pittsburgh, flew all the way back to play 1 game in Vancouver, then reboarded the plane and flew back east to Columbus. Multiply that by 32 teams with similar schedules and that's a whole lot of unnecessary travel.

[appleboy]

15 minutes ago, BarnBurner said:

All's good, but my post had nothing to do with Jake. Why do you people continually drag him into every conversation? This is about Hoglander and Motte having the same motor as Hansen. 

It is a comparison between players who play with intensity and those who don't.  It is not always about talent. Motte , Hoglander , Petey, Miller, Hughes , Mac and Bo. They all play with a high level of compete. 

Hansen and Burr were players with mid level talent but gave their all game in and game out. 

 

That is what I am trying to get across.

 

Green is in love with Hoglander.

[BarnBurner]

Then keep it at that instead of dragging Virtanen into the conversation. 

[-DLC-]

 

[WeneedLumme]

13 minutes ago, BarnBurner said:

Then keep it at that instead of dragging Virtanen into the conversation. 

Good luck with that. Certain posters are so filled with hate that it oozes out of each post. If it wasn't Jake, it would be someone else.

[NucksinNorway]

1 hour ago, bree2 said:

well that is on him, not Green. Green has spent a long time with him, trying to teach him. then Jake goes out and plays good for a few games then he just sort of floats, he is 24 now and should not need anyone to hold his hand, sad when  everyone saw great things in him, he just didn't want to do the work.

Oh I completely agree

[Boudrias]

4 hours ago, IBatch said:

Yep.   McEwen, Motte and Myers tow the line - sure  Miller and Horvat and Edler and some others can do it too (Beagle/AR) but this team like 30 other teams in the league now except for many Vegas, isn't built that way anymore.  It's sad for me and i'm sure for others...Burke made a point showing how many ridiculous soft penalties are called these days... breath on someone wrong ... for sure if there is a game with 9-10 PPs - an entire period of special teams, you should be expecting a barn yard brawl not just the average game.   Hope the league listens to this and fixes it fast. 

 

Edit: Remember bench clearing brawls?   Feel OTT/PHI a decade or so ago - was like the league getting it out of their system ... you know the game where shift after shift fought each other.   That's a barn yard brawl folks.   

I doubt you can turn the tide. High end players sign $60-70 contracts and the owners on not going to risk their health with rough play. That said playoffs seem to be another game. They want to protect the marquee players, at least during the regular season. Then there is the almost ritualistic encounters that Meyers had to deal with when he hit the Calgary player. Skating with your head down used to be an invitation for a hit but now it is almost a ploy for a PP. 

[WeneedLumme]

1 hour ago, DeNiro said:

What better way to do that than to play?

 

This team didn’t have any time to hang their heads when they were losing. It was straight back to work every day. Sometimes that’s what a team needs to work their way out of a slump.

I would say by practising together, and I expect that the players and coaches would agree.

 

Like when someone is learning to drive or swim, some instruction first is better than immediately throwing them in the deep end or sticking them behind the wheel.

 

Sometimes a team gets into a slump as a result of insufficient time off for rest and practice, especially when there are new players who have zero time working with their new teammates.

[DeNiro]

7 minutes ago, WeneedLumme said:

I would say by practising together, and I expect that the players and coaches would agree.

 

Like when someone is learning to drive or swim, some instruction first is better than immediately throwing them in the deep end or sticking them behind the wheel.

 

Sometimes a team gets into a slump as a result of insufficient time off for rest and practice, especially when there are new players who have zero time working with their new teammates.

Players always wanna play as soon as possible after a loss. They all say it.

 

You can practice all you want, but a game situation is another level. 
 

Looks to me like they’ve worked a lot of their issues out in games and have gotten better positionally.

[Ghostsof1915]

I hope someone can come up with algae fuel that can be upscaled so it can be made cheaper. They concept has already been done. The best part is growing the algae absorbs C02. So making the fuel actually recaptures the emissions. They just can't come with a way to make algae fuel that doesn't take up too much space, use too much water. And can be mass produced at this time. The military has made algae based jet fuel. The other nice thing is algae can be made in food products, feed, pharmaceutical products and beauty products. Either that or hydrogen fuelled jets. Unless someone can make stronger and lighter batteries, electric planes will probably only be viable for short range/ training aircraft. 

 

 

[canuktravella]

l bought 2 tesla stock this week    that company is so smart  theres a reason why elon musk is richest guy in the world. Wish i had bought in last yr oops

[nuck-lifer]

18 minutes ago, WeneedLumme said:

Good luck with that. Certain posters are so filled with hate that it oozes out of each post. If it wasn't Jake, it would be someone else.

I'm not sure whether its hate oozing out, but yes there will always be a lightning rod with media and fans

ones coming to mind are

current lineup

Jake , Loui, Sutter, and sprinkle in Roussel here and there

previous lineups

Goldy, megna, Hodgson, Schaller, del Zatto, Pouliot, Sopel, Sandlak, Murzyn, Cloutier, Nedved, Krutov and the list goes on

 

If Jake was picked in the 2nd round where he should have been, you wonder if his play or the criticism he receives would be quite different.