Popular Post ilduce39 Posted August 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 10, 2021 In theory, a smart but defensive minded Juolevi would make a great partner for Myers. If his injury problems are behind him and with a solid summer of training he might be a huge surprise. He’ll be in tough against Rathbone and Hunt, however. Huge training camp for him. 1 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloubek Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, King Heffy said: Yuck. Was really hoping Baumgartner would be more closely supervised because he is clearly unqualified to perform those responsibilities. Cleary those more qualified than you or I feel otherwise. Anyway, I wish the kid (?) all the success in the world. If the Canucks prefer to keep Rathbone then at least he can showcase himself and hit the ground running with a new pricier contract elsewhere. It's kinda a shame that one of them are likely to go in any event. High hopes by many for both. Edited August 10, 2021 by kloubek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 2 hours ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Why is Baumgartner still allowed to run the defense? How is that a smart move? Why bring in a defensive specialist to run the forwards and power play? I was under a different impression here. This doesn’t bode well at all for the team. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We_Are_All_Canucks_4_life Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 Glad to see juolevi signed, but not looking forward to another year with Baumgartner running everything ,hopefully its not such a tire fire this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 22 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: But after last year the only path Baumer should be on is a path to the unemployment line. The fact that he has any say in how the defence is run at all is absolutely baffling. Yes, the team obviously sees something we don't. Given they are still employed in the NHL, and I'm not, I'd say they are probably right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 (edited) 29 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: The year before last we also had better personnel on the blueline and it still wasn't great. But after last year the only path Baumer should be on is a path to the unemployment line. The fact that he has any say in how the defence is run at all is absolutely baffling. Truly odd considering that neither the defense nor the powerplay worked very well last year, yet only the more tenured coach in Newell Brown was let go, and not the less tenured coach in Baumgartner. Edited August 10, 2021 by PhillipBlunt 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, gurn said: Yes, the team obviously sees something we don't. Given they are still employed in the NHL, and I'm not, I'd say they are probably right. That's an argument by authority and doesn't hold any water. The results of.a Baumgartner led blueline without Christ Tanev on it are right in front of our eyes, and they're not good. The "chickens running around with their heads cut off" strat just didn't cut it. I'd trust Virtanen with my daughter before I'd trust Baumgartner with an NHL defense. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post King Heffy Posted August 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: That's an argument by authority and doesn't hold any water. The results of.a Baumgartner led blueline without Christ Tanev on it are right in front of our eyes, and they're not good. The "chickens running around with their heads cut off" strat just didn't cut it. I'd trust Virtanen with my daughter before I'd trust Baumgartner with an NHL defense. Yep. Just because I'm not a doctor, it doesn't mean I don't know there's a problem if I go in for a colonoscopy and the doc takes his pants off. I'm not sure how anyone can honestly evaluate the system Baumgartner's implemented and decide he's fit to coach at any level. Entrusting this idiot with our defense yet again handicaps the entire team. 2 6 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyLow_ Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 Good deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: I'd trust Virtanen with my daughter before I'd trust Baumgartner with an NHL defense. I'll be leaving now. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, gurn said: I'll be leaving now. All I'm saying is that our blueline could probably press charges against Baumgartner for what he did to it last year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtman Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 2 hours ago, DeNiro said: I hope Shaw has more control over Baumer than they’re letting on. Theres no way you hire a guy like Shaw and then not give him the reigns over defensemen. 26 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Why is Baumgartner still allowed to run the defense? How is that a smart move? Why bring in a defensive specialist to run the forwards and power play? I was under a different impression here. This doesn’t bode well at all for the team. I think a lot of our issues last year were our forwards not giving the defense enough support. I'm assuming Shaw will primarily work on making our forwards more defensively responsible. We'll see I guess, the players also spoke highly of Baumer so who knows. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Dirtman said: I think a lot of our issues last year were our forwards not giving the defense enough support. I'm assuming Shaw will primarily work on making our forwards more defensively responsible. We'll see I guess, the players also spoke highly of Baumer so who knows. I think you're right. Shaw has better tools to work with this year too. Green and Shaw can sett a new strategy and game planning, I'm sure Baumer can run a practice and the bench during games. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyLow_ Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 2 hours ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Umm what... So we're going to have the guy that sucked at playing & coaching defense run the defense again, then have the guy that's known as a defensive guru run the powerplay?? What's next, Ian Clark is going to run the forwards? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post grandmaster Posted August 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 10, 2021 Another thread going off track. This is about OJ, not the bloody assistant coaches! 6 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris12345 Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 2 hours ago, King Heffy said: I also think Rathbone is still very raw and would benefit immensely from playing big minutes in Abbotsford. Oh yea Rathbone starts in the AHL ends in the show. A couple of injuries later and here we go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RakuRaku Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 3 hours ago, grandmaster said: We have just over 13M and it will be used up for Dickenson, Hughes and Petey. Roster full. Hmmmm then we pray that our bottom 6 will be able to over-achieve!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 3 hours ago, #Canucks said: OEL- Myers is a bad combo. OEL needs a shutdown guy like Poolman or even Schenn What makes you think that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 8 minutes ago, stawns said: What makes you think that? Hero charts 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucksfollower1983 Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Jimmy McGill said: If they don't want to overpay, and by a lot, they can go pound sand. Exactly. Have to factor in the off ice value for NJD in that trade too. You know they would all take less money to play together, less risk of any leaving in free agency. Isn't NJD a team that struggles at the gate as well? Landing Quinn would be a marketing dream for them, they can hype the hell out of it. All american hockey familly, 3 brothers all drafted top 10, guarnteed to help them at the gate which means increased revenues. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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