HKSR Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 Boeser is the next priority with his contract due. Do we keep him? Or we trade him? If we keep him, how much do you think he will cost? I saw a poster say Ryan Nugent-Hopkins as a comparable. It's actually not that far off when taking into consideration health issues. If that's the case, I could see Boeser re-sign in the $5.5 to $6M range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester13 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 Try to lock him in long term for 5.5-6 and then see him have a great offseason and comeback healthy, quicker, and playing above his pay grade. Win. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erkayloomeh Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 I'd like to trade him. That said I don't know how to value his worth. What's Boeser worth. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Canuckfanforlife82 Posted March 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 22, 2022 (edited) This core needs a shakeup. More players who have some bite and don’t accept losing. Winning at all costs. I am tired of having a team full of really nice guys on the ice. Edited March 22, 2022 by Canuckfanforlife82 2 1 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalie13 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 I don't believe they can re-sign him until he's actually in his contract year and we're past the trade deadline for this year, so I am going to go with... neither. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted March 22, 2022 Author Share Posted March 22, 2022 9 minutes ago, erkayloomeh said: I'd like to trade him. That said I don't know how to value his worth. What's Boeser worth. ? I don't think he's worth as much as we think. Likely a B-tier prospect and a 1st. If it's an A-tier prospect, it'd be a 1-for-1. I could likely see a hockey trade with Boeser more than a prospect/pick package. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayDangles Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 Someone stop me if I'm wrong.... but we have to wait until end of season to trade him, at which point he has no contract. So how can we even trade him? Other option is we sign him, then we trade him.... but if we sign him to a reasonable contract then we would likely keep him... So my understanding is either we lose him for nothing, or we sign him for cheap, or we sign him for his QO... am I missing something?. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 What is Boeser’s upside? At 25 have we seen all he has to offer? As a all around player he is OK but is he a leader on a Cup contender? I suspect not. If he can be traded for a RD prospect then that is more the team need. He should bring that back in a deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_Pavel Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 (edited) Resign him long term while his value is at its lowest, we can trade him down the road after he pots 30 in a season for a Dman. Edited March 22, 2022 by Bure_Pavel 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrago Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 Alvin should have been in serious contract talks already with BB's agent and this is part of my frustration with these guys. They need to have a very good idea of what's going to happen with Brock before the end of the season. I was willing to give Benning a little slack on this stuff cause he was basically a one man show, but there is 5 of these guys they need to be on top of things and stop with this BS excuse we are evaluating the team. Half of them where scouts how much time do they need? Back to Brock I'd say trade him I like him as a person, but he has taken no steps at improving as a hockey player since his rookie season, which says one of 2 things he has maxed out his potential or he isn't taking his career serious enough to improve, either way as he is now he's not good enough to be a top line player on a contender which is what we hope to be someday and he will likely be paid to much to be a second line player. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 People are dreaming if they think he'll re-sign for under $6 If he re-signs for under $7, then keep him. If not, then trade him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Goal:thecup Posted March 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 22, 2022 In Allwin's presser, it sounded to me that he was talking Brock up, "good young player, etc". That might have been sales talk; in negotiations him, I imagine it will be a much more stern conversation. If he will not take considerably less than his QO, then we move to the next step in the process. Brock has not been the same, imo since Clusterphook busted his back. Also, it seems his shot is a lot worse and maybe these things improve, but maybe they don't. At present, he is not much of a skater, and not much of a 'sniper'. Very risky to re-sign Brock for too much money imo, and then nobody will give us much in a trade either. I'm in at 5.5 - 6.0 max; and not too much term either. Love the guy, but we gotta Win The Cup! 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrago Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 9 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: People are dreaming if they think he'll re-sign for under $6 If he re-signs for under $7, then keep him. If not, then trade him. I think your probably right either way him or Miller need to be traded or this team will just be stagnant, we need to reorganize the team structure and those 2 probably have the best value to do so. IMO anyways. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberz21 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 10 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: People are dreaming if they think he'll re-sign for under $6 If he re-signs for under $7, then keep him. If not, then trade him. Agree to some degree, but when you put his numbers beside Garland (5M$) and Pearson (3M$), issh, doesn't look good for Boeser. At 25 he's suppose to be hitting his stride and he's regressing. Now he does have leverage with that QO coming, but I don't think neither Boeser (or his agent) or the Canucks are interested in a long term deal. The Canucks doesn't want to commit to a player who seemed to have plateaued, while Boeser can't ask for the moon with these numbers. IMO the likely scenario is Boeser will sign a 2-year deal that will bring him to UFA, a little under that QO (6.25-7M$ is my guess) or at the draft, he will be traded and sign a similar deal with his new team. One way or the other, I don't think he gets to sign QO, something will be done before. I think he's the best bargaining chip we have to improve our defense and get a solid young top 4 RHD. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpyone Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 sign him at 5/season with performance bonuses that could net him another 2. ie: 40 goals or 70pts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 His agent advised a hold out last time, my guess is he won't budge off the QO for us. Its really up to Brock and what he wants, but if his agent is going to play hardball I think he'll be moved. 20 minutes ago, thrago said: Alvin should have been in serious contract talks already with BB's agent and this is part of my frustration with these guys. They need to have a very good idea of what's going to happen with Brock before the end of the season. I was willing to give Benning a little slack on this stuff cause he was basically a one man show, but there is 5 of these guys they need to be on top of things and stop with this BS excuse we are evaluating the team. Half of them where scouts how much time do they need? Back to Brock I'd say trade him I like him as a person, but he has taken no steps at improving as a hockey player since his rookie season, which says one of 2 things he has maxed out his potential or he isn't taking his career serious enough to improve, either way as he is now he's not good enough to be a top line player on a contender which is what we hope to be someday and he will likely be paid to much to be a second line player. looking at his comp's, he's maybe due a slight raise? something under 6.5 is reasonable, but that stupid QO is looming and in the way of a reasonable deal unless he tells his agent different. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 Just now, grumpyone said: sign him at 5/season with performance bonuses that could net him another 2. ie: 40 goals or 70pts can't do that for a U35s anymore. Thats only for ELCs and >35 contracts. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 1 hour ago, HKSR said: Boeser is the next priority with his contract due. Do we keep him? Or we trade him? If we keep him, how much do you think he will cost? I saw a poster say Ryan Nugent-Hopkins as a comparable. It's actually not that far off when taking into consideration health issues. If that's the case, I could see Boeser re-sign in the $5.5 to $6M range. option to let him go and save cap too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCNate Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 6x6-6.5 would be ideal. Boeser has not put him a position to command more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrago Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, JM_ said: His agent advised a hold out last time, my guess is he won't budge off the QO for us. Its really up to Brock and what he wants, but if his agent is going to play hardball I think he'll be moved. looking at his comp's, he's maybe due a slight raise? something under 6.5 is reasonable, but that stupid QO is looming and in the way of a reasonable deal unless he tells his agent different. That's why I think they need to start talks now, and if the agent says they aren't willing to talk, my response would be thank you, that tells us all we need to know about what your client feels about his future with this team and then I'd be looking for trades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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