[Report] Canucks announce Hockey Operations enhancements

[JM_]

18 minutes ago, Dazzle said:

It's funny you say that.

Our prospect pool/roster team (in terms of potential) is significantly better than what Gillis left the team. If our current team requires 4-5 years to rebuild, how long would it have taken with a complete barebones prospect pool that ONLY successfully drafted Horvat, Hutton, Connaughton, and Hodgson?

it is? 

[Mustard Tiger]

5 hours ago, EternalCanuckFan said:

Great for Johnson and intriguing hires.

 

Couldn't help but think of this regarding Johnson's new added title:

 

The one time I don't start reading before posting, Said the same thing pretty much haha!

[Tinky-Winky]

51 minutes ago, Muttley said:

Been pretty active with all the signings in front office. What about the crappy old seats though. How bout that!  Hey, Franny,  Getturdon....

dont care about seats, i only watch the games on TV, rather they focus on front office and the hockey team, than stupid seats, so ur butt is comfy LOL

[Guest]

17 minutes ago, JM_ said:

it is? 

It's not because of one player: Bo Horvat. 

 

Otherwise I'll take Rathbone, Karlsson, Klimovich, and McDonaugh over Corrado, Labate, and whoever else we had in the system. 

 

[sxqhfeh]

Dale Tallon steals the headlines but Scott Young is a very, very, very good hire and in a key role

[Guest]

Great hirings today. 

 

I'm most excited about a dedicated college scout for us. NCAA was our bread and butter over the last 8 years and I'm happy that we hired a scout with a track record.  

 

Looks like our Europe coverage will only get better. 

 

Onwards and upwards! 

[combover]

35 minutes ago, tas said:

yeah, who'd want a third generation amateur scout?

Hahahaha that’s hilarious yeah he really paid his dues and earned a spot on a professional sports team. 

resume -daddys a gm and was a scout. 
 

i rather have qualified people thanks. 

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As for who’d want a third generation amateur scout with zero experience well as it stands now looks like nobody. 

 

 

[shiznak]

5 hours ago, King Heffy said:

Good thing he's only there as an advisor then.  Chicago drafted very well under him.

 

He was only Director of Player Personnel for 5 seasons, during the late 90s - early 00s. The drafting was horrible during that time. The only players who played over 100 games were, Steve McCarthy, Craig Anderson, and Tuomo Ruutu. 

[Me_]

4 hours ago, JM_ said:

this is going to take 4-5 years. 

A steady rebuilding of our farm is perfectly acceptable.

[Ghostsof1915]

2 hours ago, -Vintage Canuck- said:

 

Well he's saying the right things. 

[SergioMomesso]

With the new salaries on the payroll. Ticket prices just went up 15%, flat warm beer now at 18 bucks a pint. Footlong wiener is now a shade under 30. Guess I’ll be sneaking in my flask and going with the reg sized dog next season. 

[secksii]

1 hour ago, JM_ said:

it is? 

If course it is, you can't tell the difference? Holy. 

 

 

Young is a very good hire, seems like alvin and JR are committed to developing players properly instead of rushing them 

Edited June 25, 2022 by secksii

[JM_]

13 minutes ago, secksii said:

If course it is, you can't tell the difference? Holy. 

 

 

Young is a very good hire, seems like alvin and JR are committed to developing players properly instead of rushing them 

so "nothing but Bo" to "inadequate" is our new benchmark?

[tas]

1 hour ago, combover said:

Hahahaha that’s hilarious yeah he really paid his dues and earned a spot on a professional sports team. 

resume -daddys a gm and was a scout. 
 

i rather have qualified people thanks. 

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As for who’d want a third generation amateur scout with zero experience well as it stands now looks like nobody. 

 

 

he worked for the flames previously. 

[secksii]

12 minutes ago, JM_ said:

so "nothing but Bo" to "inadequate" is our new benchmark?

No, if you can't tell the difference btwn the team that Gillis left Benning, and Benning left Alvin then idk what to tell you. 

 

The current prospect is bare, because a lot of em are currently on the roster. Podkolzin, Hoglander, Demko, Petey, boeser, Hughes etc. 

 

The only player Gillis got his prospects onto the team is horvat and Hutton sadly. He also had a strong roster, winning president trophies and competing for cup etc. Which gives more time for his prospects to take their time and develop rather than rushing them into the NHL. Yet he failed to draft good players. 

 

Edited June 25, 2022 by secksii

[ShawnAntoski]

8 hours ago, -Vintage Canuck- said:

Details:

 

Vancouver, B.C. - Vancouver Canucks General Manager Patrik Allvin announced today that the club has made multiple enhancements and additions to its Hockey Operations department. Ryan Johnson has been promoted to Assistant to the General Manager and will retain his role as General Manager of the Abbotsford Canucks. Scott Young will act as Director of Player Personnel, while Frank Golden joins as College Free Agent Scout, Dylan Crawford has been named Video Coach, and Dale Tallon will serve as Senior Advisor and Professional Scout.

 

"We're pleased to have solidified our Hockey Operations department for next season with the promotion of Ryan Johnson and the additions of Scott Young, Frank Golden, Dylan Crawford and Dale Tallon," said Allvin. "These individuals bring immense experience and are committed to the vision we have in building the Vancouver Canucks to be a winning franchise."

 

After serving as the first General Manager of the Abbotsford Canucks and leading the team to the playoffs in their inaugural season, Ryan Johnson will continue to manage Abbotsford while also working closely with Patrik Allvin on all hockey-related matters in his new elevated position.

 

Johnson previously served as the General Manager of Vancouver's AHL affiliate Utica Comets since 2017 and as Senior Director of Player Development since 2018. He initially joined the organization in 2013 as a Player Development Consultant and became Director of Player Development in 2016.

 

Johnson played 701 regular season NHL games from 1997-2011, amassing 122 points (38-84-122), including 120 games in a Canucks uniform (3-11-14). He also appeared in 29 career playoff games, adding five points (1-4-5) and 12 penalty minutes. Over his 13-year NHL career, Johnson led all NHL forwards in blocked shots (455) and blocked shots per 60 minutes (38.96).

 

Scott Young joins the organization as Director of Player Personnel after spending the past five years as Director of Player Development for the Pittsburgh Penguins, where he oversaw efforts to develop prospects in the minor leagues as well as junior and college hockey. He also served as an assistant coach for Team USA at the 2018 Winter Olympic Games in PyeongChang.

 

Young brings a winning pedigree to the organization as a two-time Stanley Cup Champion (1991 - Pittsburgh; 1996 - Colorado). His professional accolades also extend beyond the NHL, as he represented the United States at nearly every major international tournament, winning silver at the 2002 Olympic Games in Salt Lake City, gold at the 1996 World Cup of Hockey and bronze at the 1986 World Junior Championship. He was enshrined into the United States Hockey Hall of Fame in the Class of 2017.

 

A former 17-year NHL veteran, Young played 1,181 career regular season games with Hartford, Pittsburgh, Quebec, Colorado, Anaheim, St. Louis and Dallas, totalling 756 points (342-414-756). Young was originally selected by Hartford in the first round, 11th overall in the 1986 NHL Entry Draft.

 

Frank Golden joins the Canucks as a College Free Agent Scout after eight seasons with the Pittsburgh Penguins in an Amateur Scout capacity. Frank will use his vast hockey knowledge and many years of experience to help continue to improve and add to the Canucks prospect pool.

 

Dylan Crawford has been named Video Coach for the Vancouver Canucks. Crawford will work alongside Head Coach Bruce Boudreau, Assistant Coaches Brad Shaw and Jason King, and Ian Clark, Director of Goaltending and Head Goaltending Coach.

 

Crawford joins the Canucks from the Chicago Blackhawks where he served as Assistant Video Coach for four seasons. Prior to joining the Blackhawks, Crawford spent two seasons with the Ottawa Senators organization as the Head Video Coach of the Binghamton Senators (2016.17) and Belleville Senators (2017.18). He is also the son of former Vancouver Canucks player (1981-1987) and Head Coach (1999-2006) Marc Crawford.

 

Dale Tallon will act as a Senior Advisor and Professional Scout, bringing with him 22 years of hockey operations experience with the Florida Panthers and Chicago Blackhawks. He most recently served as General Manager of the Panthers for 10 seasons from 2010-2020, while simultaneously occupying the role of Executive VP of Hockey Operations from 2010-2017 and President of Hockey Operations from 2017-2020.

 

Previously, he worked multiple roles in the Chicago Blackhawks front office from 1998-2010, including Director of Player Personnel (1998-2002), Assistant General Manager (2002-2005), General Manager (2005-2009), and Senior Advisor (2009.10), winning the 2010 Stanley Cup in his final season in Chicago.

 

Tallon, a former NHL defenceman, made history in 1970 as the Canucks' first ever selection at an NHL Entry Draft. He went on to play 222 games in a Canucks uniform, recording 137 points (44-93-137) and 219 penalty minutes before concluding his playing career with 336 points (98-238-336) in 642 games with the Canucks, Chicago Blackhawks, and Pittsburgh Penguins. 

 

https://www.nhl.com/canucks/news/canucks-announce-hockey-operations-enhancements/c-334724064

Very different approach by JR & Allvin: in building up the off ice roster, rather than constantly chasing players at the expense of future finite assets: premium picks.  Really interested how the draft will turn out and what all these hiring means to homegrown development.  Not sure, how Johnston can be promoted based on what the farm has produced ?  Anyways, let's see how it all turns out.

Edited June 25, 2022 by ShawnAntoski

[secksii]

22 minutes ago, ShawnAntoski said:

Very different approach by JR & Allvin: in building up the off ice roster, rather than constantly chasing players at the expense of future finite assets: premium picks.  Really interested how the draft will turn out and what all these hiring means to homegrown development.  Not sure, how Johnston can be promoted based on what the farm has produced ?  Anyways, let's see how it all turns out.

Johnson is promoted because of what he did for the ahl team. He made them competitive and relevant despite Benning rushing promising prospects to the NHL. You can't expect Cull to develop players when all the promising talents get rushed to the NHL and he's left with bottom 6 NHL ceiling players to develop. 

 

MacEwen, Gajovich, etc. Was noticed by strong ahl seasons but they're bottom 6 at best in the NHL. Players like Hoglander, gaudette, heck even virtanen should've spent some time in the AHL to develop properly, to be professionals off ice, learn to play the full game away from puck, and such those players actually have the potential to be in the top 6 in the NHL, but Benning rushed them straight to the league. 

 

That's not Johnson's failure, he did his job and clearly the previous regime and current regime agrees with that based on promoting him and continous rave about him, while letting go of other staff employees.

Edited June 25, 2022 by secksii

[Googlie]

3 hours ago, JM_ said:

it is? 

Forgetting our AHL prospects, we have:

 

The SHL rookie goal scoring record breaker

#s 2 and 3 points producers in the Finnish Liiga

Second highest point producer in the KHL

 

None too shabby, IMO

[hammertime]

37 minutes ago, Googlie said:

Forgetting our AHL prospects, we have:

 

The SHL rookie goal scoring record breaker

#s 2 and 3 points producers in the Finnish Liiga

Second highest point producer in the KHL

 

None too shabby, 

Mutha uckas act like they forgot about Bains!

Edited June 25, 2022 by hammertime

[Diamonds]

3 hours ago, VancouverHabitant said:

It's not because of one player: Bo Horvat. 

 

Otherwise I'll take Rathbone, Karlsson, Klimovich, and McDonaugh over Corrado, Labate, and whoever else we had in the system. 

 

The prospect pool Benning took over also included Gaunce, Jensen, Hutton, Shinkaruk, and Cassels. Sure I'll give you Rathbone over those guys, but otherwise they all looked just as promising (if not more so) than Karlsson, Klimovich, and McDonough. Ultimately none of them worked out, which is a different issue of the Canucks inability to develop their prospects, but if anyone is going to complain about the cupboards being bare when Gillis was fired they really aren't any better now following Benning being fired.

 

Back on the thread topic, I really like that Allvin and Rutherford are continuing to build out a large and qualified front office. Hopefully it results in long-lasting success on the ice.