Coconuts Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 12 minutes ago, Alflives said: Management has two years left in their three year contracts. There is zero chance they will make rebuilding a priority. Our owner wants his management to build a winner around the current core five. Any moves will be to follow the owner’s direction. JR won't care, the work was never gonna be done during his time here, his legacy is already cemented Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Coconuts said: Seems like a big ask I dont think so, they've got to make that many deals one way or the other......let's just hope they make the smart ones 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aqua59 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 34 minutes ago, Mando27 said: Don't buy it, Aqua wouldn't allow the team to trade Miller. Sure I would. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 9 minutes ago, stawns said: I dont think so, they've got to make that many deals one way or the other......let's just hope they make the smart ones I suppose we shall see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionized27 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 I envision a true "hockey trade" with DET. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 1 hour ago, -DLC- said: Well they can't fn have him. *slams door, breaks broom over the counter top 1 hour ago, awalk said: In hindsight it was a mistake to extend Miller. It's okay to make mistakes as long as you take the opportunity to rectify those mistakes when they arise. Here's hoping. In foresight as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 8 minutes ago, Coconuts said: I suppose we shall see Well, they've got to make two deals, at the very least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 The one fathomable trade I could see for Miller is a cap for cap type move where we're taking a more short-term dump. For example someone like Josh Bailey or Zaitsev(as contract examples and not team ones) Perhaps it's the only type of deal you perhaps could get a decent return back too that isn't just long-term cap relief. I would be hard pressed to do more than 2 years on any contract coming back though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Junkyard Dog said: The one fathomable trade I could see for Miller is a cap for cap type move where we're taking a more short-term dump. For example someone like Josh Bailey or Zaitsev(as contract examples and not team ones) Perhaps it's the only type of deal you perhaps could get a decent return back too that isn't just long-term cap relief. I would be hard pressed to do more than 2 years on any contract coming back though. There's teams out there that can do it. There would definitely be some cap coming bad, no question........hopefully some of it expiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Lasso Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, stawns said: Well, they've got to make two deals, at the very least. I expect a first linchpin trade, that frees enough cap to attempt to resign Bo. A significant contract for expiring cap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awalk Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, aGENT said: In foresight as well... I wanted them to trade him and then I didn't. So I guess I was wrong... and in the ENNNNNND it doesn't even maaatttterrrrrr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 10 minutes ago, stawns said: Well, they've got to make two deals, at the very least. Yup, if they want to keep Horvat they'll need to shed cap, if they can't manage it or he wants to move on there's at least one At which point you may as well move Miller too, he doesn't fit the timeline of a rebuild At which point you probably see Kuzmenko flipped too, maybe Schenn if we really embrace being sellers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Coconuts said: Yup, if they want to keep Horvat they'll need to shed cap, if they can't manage it or he wants to move on there's at least one At which point you may as well move Miller too, he doesn't fit the timeline of a rebuild At which point you probably see Kuzmenko flipped too, maybe Schenn if we really embrace being sellers If they plan on keeping miller and boeser, horvat and Kuz are gone.......tyen next year probably Petey, Hughes, demko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayDangles Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Basically the only scenario that is realistic is exactly what the OEL trade was, but the roles are reversed for us. Only way we move Miller is if it's for 1-3 players who have 1-3 years left on bad contracts and we just have to wait it out. Anyone who thinks Miller will net us actual quality players or picks is dreaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayDangles Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 12 minutes ago, Kenny Powers said: I expect a first linchpin trade, that frees enough cap to attempt to resign Bo. A significant contract for expiring cap Oh good, then next year we can all sit around and complain about management signing a guy to a retirement contract based solely around his one single season where he shattered his own records and now we're hoping some team can help bail us out of this mistake. Hmmmmm.. no thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, JayDangles said: Basically the only scenario that is realistic is exactly what the OEL trade was, but the roles are reversed for us. Only way we move Miller is if it's for 1-3 players who have 1-3 years left on bad contracts and we just have to wait it out. Anyone who thinks Miller will net us actual quality players or picks is dreaming. I don't think so, miller is more valuable and he also doesn't have any kind of ntc........oel had two teams he'd go to and that hamstrings everything 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Curse Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Alflives said: Pit and Boston have nothing we want. The Canes have KK. Miller for KK + works. dude leave KK alone, 4 million cap hit for a 4c.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Canucks Curse said: dude leave KK alone, 4 million cap hit for a 4c.... He would likely have to be one of the pieces coming back. The good part of that is they'd likely be giving a great sweetener to do it. He's also not a lost cause yet and might be a good 3c behind Petey and horvat Edited January 8, 2023 by stawns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick_theRyper Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 11 minutes ago, stawns said: If they plan on keeping miller and boeser, horvat and Kuz are gone.......tyen next year probably Petey, Hughes, demko I'm gonna take a few year break from the knuckles heads if that happens 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Just now, Canucks Curse said: dude leave KK alone, 4 million cap hit for a 4c.... For a guy that throws the term “busteroo” around all the time I’m surprised he’s so obsessed with acquiring Kotkeniemi. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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