HC20.0 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Might be a hot take, but I’d much rather buyout Boeser. Garland is having a down year, but is much more consistent 5 on 5. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Myers was the same player on Winnipeg and Buffalo that they were happy to get rid of. He’s as much of a problem as the team. He provides zero offense actually. He can’t hit the net to save his life. He picks up points here and there because we’re a high scoring team but he’s clueless offensively. His skating may be decent but his brain doesn’t make up for it. He’s constantly making bad reads and is out of position because he doesn’t see the play develop fast enough. He’s big I’ll give you that but he can’t even play the way that would make him effective without taking penalties. You can try and boost him all you want and hope a team is dumb enough to bite. I guarantee no team is trading for him though. They’re watching the same player I am. One that will hurt you in games much more than they help. We'll see whether he gets bought out or traded I like my chances 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billabong Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Absolutely no buyouts, just no. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, aGENT said: We'll see whether he gets bought out or traded I like my chances Only way he gets traded is if we take on an equally bad contract like Zaitsev’s. We’re not getting anything of value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Goose Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Dont think long-term buy outs are being seriously considered. Start with short term fixes then re-evaluate. Dhaliwal has a penchant for just throwing stuff out there when it comes to “possibilities” so nothing Id take too seriously atm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Yeah no. Are people really this dense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 I only scrolled through to see @stawns's take on this. he's oddly silent. huh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Just now, DeNiro said: Only way he gets traded is if we take on an equally bad contract like Zaitsev’s. We’re not getting anything of value. Depends on when we trade him. This TDL... Probably not much of anything other than a sooner expiring, smaller contract (yes, like Zaitsev). But cap is king and that is in fact something of "value". So, yes we will. After his bonus is paid, perhaps a pittance... Mid round pick etc. Next TDL with retention and 3/4 of his hit prorated off... I'd wager we could get something actually half decent like 2nd or a decent "B" prospect and a 3rd +/-. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Garland is still a very tradable player so a buyout makes minimal to no sense. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Pump and dump him and Boeser after trading away Horvat + Miller. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Pears said: Garland is still a very tradable player so a buyout makes minimal to no sense. which team wants a 4'10" player that can't contribute at either end of the ice or on either special team? garland might be the most useless player on this team. edit: for $5 mil a year. Edited January 8, 2023 by tas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 1 minute ago, tas said: which team wants a 4'10" player that can't contribute at either end of the ice or on either special team? garland might be the most useless player on this team. edit: for $5 mil a year. And OEL is a close second. This is what happens when an owner uses his GM like this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Alflives said: And OEL is a close second. This is what happens when an owner uses his GM like this: I think oel is a perfectly fine bottom 4 defenceman, but it's impossible for fans to separate his play from his contract. I wish contract info was still confidential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 10 minutes ago, Junkyard Dog said: Pump and dump him and Boeser after trading away Horvat + Miller. *Ding*, *Ding*, *Ding* We have a winner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 1 minute ago, aGENT said: *Ding*, *Ding*, *Ding* We have a winner! in a cap climate where no team has been able to move any money at all, what's suddenly going to change to allow the canucks to move 4 high priced players? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, tas said: I think oel is a perfectly fine bottom 4 defenceman, but it's impossible for fans to separate his play from his contract. I wish contract info was still confidential. In a hard cap can’t have guys eating cap like OEL and being a bottom pairing player. Really, we could replace what he’s contributing for 2.5 per. Our core isn’t the problem. It’s these overpaid, cap eating support group guys brought in by Benning. OEL, Myers, Garland eat 18 mil per n cap allocation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Just now, Alflives said: In a hard cap can’t have guys eating cap like OEL and being a bottom pairing player. Really, we could replace what he’s contributing for 2.5 per. Our core isn’t the problem. It’s these overpaid, cap eating support group guys brought in by Benning. OEL, Myers, Garland eat 18 mil per n cap allocation. I agree, but it doesn't make him useless. garland is useless. an offense only player who is useless in every other way, and also doesn't put up offense. think mason raymond but worse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Just now, tas said: I agree, but it doesn't make him useless. garland is useless. an offense only player who is useless in every other way, and also doesn't put up offense. think mason raymond but worse. I agree. And Benning bringing in and paying way too much for support players is a big reason why we are doing poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 (edited) I don't see it. At the very worst we could probably move him for a player with a similar sized contract and similar term, if not a smaller contract. He's also a good bounceback candidate given how he plays imo, and he's tied up for most of his prime. I'd rather avoid buyouts when possible. I'd be open to trading him, not as keen on a buyout. Edited January 9, 2023 by Coconuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickenspear Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Cameron88188 said: If anyone is being bought out, it is Stillman. Garland can be traded, if need be. We'd be better off sticking him in Abby. Stillman buyout: '23-'24 and '24-'25: $225k Stillman buried: '23-'24: $200k 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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