higgyfan Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 (edited) I've read an awful lot of scouting reports about Raty, but have never seen any that say he's a potential bust or that his skating is below average. Just that his long stride is less efficient at top speed. Some have mentioned that his points should be higher in the AHL, even though his former team is awful. Regardless, he is putting points up that are similar to Podz, who is 1y and 5mo older and better than Hogs (yes, I know that they have had success in the NHL, but it goes to show that playing in the AHL isn't a cakewalk). Rockport is a team that has very few young prospects with NHL potential, playing on a team that only has a handful of players that have a positive +/- ( Raty being one of them (+3). Somehow I doubt their developmental program is anywhere near as comprehensive as the AHL Canucks'. A play-making C with lots of skill would be a great addition to the Canucks. We need to be patient with this kid and see how his development goes in Abby. After all, he just turned 20yrs about 3 months ago. Edited February 10, 2023 by higgyfan 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DownUndaCanuck Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 Nice, finally gets his first point, 1 assist in 4 games looks pretty bad but I think Raty's going to be a real slow-burner. I really hope we sign a UFA center next year to play in our 3rd line so Raty can just stay in the AHL as long as possible, we really need to let him simmer down there, his game is so far from NHL-ready but he's oozing potential. Some players with top-end skill can just rush into the NHL but a big playmaking center like Raty really needs to learn every aspect of the game well before busting into the NHL. Sadly I doubt we'll do that and I worry we'll push him up into the team next year. Obviously it depends on training camp but I really hope we don't depend on Raty in the NHL next year, let him play a full season on a winning Abbortsford team. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Curse Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 Sign Two of Evan Rodrigues, JT compher, teddy bluegger for 3C 4C next year let Raty and Aman simmer for two years and get called up on occasion 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Boudrias Posted February 12, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2023 5 hours ago, DownUndaCanuck said: Nice, finally gets his first point, 1 assist in 4 games looks pretty bad but I think Raty's going to be a real slow-burner. I really hope we sign a UFA center next year to play in our 3rd line so Raty can just stay in the AHL as long as possible, we really need to let him simmer down there, his game is so far from NHL-ready but he's oozing potential. Some players with top-end skill can just rush into the NHL but a big playmaking center like Raty really needs to learn every aspect of the game well before busting into the NHL. Sadly I doubt we'll do that and I worry we'll push him up into the team next year. Obviously it depends on training camp but I really hope we don't depend on Raty in the NHL next year, let him play a full season on a winning Abbortsford team. What we see in Abby this year is such an improvement by the Canucks development program. A much younger mix of players in Abby and an apparent willingness by PA to keep them there as they improve. I am very hopeful that Podz and Aman are returned to Abby for the Calder playoffs. Perhaps a goal tender as well. Canucks have to ice a team and I still expect TDL moves that bring players back to the Canucks. I agree with your concern about moving players up to the NHL before they are ready. I don't think the pressure exists within the org to be overly concerned even tho the history says otherwise. My impression is that attitudes are different in management, ownership and the fans. A novel idea. How about the Abby Canucks playing 4 - 5 games in Rogers Arena next year. I think they would sell it out. Abby season ticket holders could have first refusal. It would be a thrill for many fans and for the players as well. 4 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted February 12, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Boudrias said: What we see in Abby this year is such an improvement by the Canucks development program. A much younger mix of players in Abby and an apparent willingness by PA to keep them there as they improve. I am very hopeful that Podz and Aman are returned to Abby for the Calder playoffs. Perhaps a goal tender as well. Canucks have to ice a team and I still expect TDL moves that bring players back to the Canucks. I agree with your concern about moving players up to the NHL before they are ready. I don't think the pressure exists within the org to be overly concerned even tho the history says otherwise. My impression is that attitudes are different in management, ownership and the fans. A novel idea. How about the Abby Canucks playing 4 - 5 games in Rogers Arena next year. I think they would sell it out. Abby season ticket holders could have first refusal. It would be a thrill for many fans and for the players as well. I think it’s great the way the organization is handling Räty’s development. Few would have batted an eye in past years if the team put a “shiny new toy” like Räty straight into the NHL on Vancouver’s third line, or installed him on Abby’s first line, flanked by Höglander and Podkolzin/Karlsson. But instead, they started him on the AHL team’s 3rd line, and then only moved him to the 2nd line when Åman was called up and there was a roster need. Clearly they’re taking their time with him, and more focused on development and steady improvement, with a long term focus. He hasn’t had a lot of practice time yet, but you get the sense that they’re planning to put in a lot of time with him, outside of the games, working with the coaches and development staff (particularly skating coach MacKenzie Braid, as well as the Sedins, and several others on staff). This is absolutely the best approach. I don’t think Räty has received quite this much direct, individualized coaching previously in North America. If he’s handled correctly, he could make some significant gains over the remainder of the season, and the off-season. This may not show up immediately on the scoresheet and timesheet, but could result in a very different player by next season. All the work they put in right now could prove to be highly beneficial over the long term, giving them the best chance at developing Räty into a bonafide NHL player, eventually earning a regular lineup spot in Vancouver, and playing and producing at a level approaching his ceiling. (I like your idea of scheduling a few AHL games at Rogers Arena. I think there are quite a few Vancouver fans who’d love to watch an AHL game, but aren’t willing to make the trek all the way out to the Abbotsford Centre. I know a lot of folks living downtown right now who consider crossing one bridge to be a pretty exhausting journey into the hinterlands and two bridges to be an unthinkable distance to travel. I also think it would be fun for the farm players to get a few games every year on the NHL team’s ice and playing in front of 3X the crowd.) Edited February 12, 2023 by SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Whole mess of typos 3 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 1 minute ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: I think it’s great the way the organization is handling Räty’s development. Few would have batted an eye in past years if the team put a “shiny new toy” like Räty straight into the NHL on Vancouver’s third line, or installed him on Abby’s first line, flanked by Höglander and Podkolzin/Karlsson. But instead, they started him on the AHL team’s 3rd line, and then only moved him to the 2nd line when Åman was called up and there was a roster need. Clearly they’re taking their time with him, and more focused on development and steady improvement, with a long term focus. He hasn’t had a lot of practice time yet, but you get the sense that they’re planning to put in a lot of time with his, outside of the games, working with the coaches and development staff (particularly skating coach MacKenzie Braid, as well as the Sedins, skills coach Yogi Svejkovsky, and several others on staff). This is absolutely the best approach. I don’t think Räty has received quite this much direct, individualized coaching previously in North America. If he’s handled correctly, he could make some significant gains over the remainder of the season, and the off-season. This may not show up immediately on the scoresheet and timesheet, but could result in a very different player by next season. B the work they put in right now could prove to be highly beneficial over the long term, giving them the best chance at developing Räty into a bonafide NHL player, eventually earning a regular lineup spot in Vancouver, and playing and producing at a level approaching his ceiling. (I like your idea of scheduling a few AHL games at Rogers Arena. I think there are quite a few Vancouver fans who’d love to watch an AHL game, but aren’t willing to make the trek all the way out to the Abbotsford Centre. I know a lot of folks living downtown right now who consider crossing one bridge to be a pretty exhausting journey into the hinterlands and two bridges to be an unthinkable distance to travel. I also think it would be fun for the farm players to get a few games every year on the NHL team’s ice and playing in front of 3X the crowd.) Was Raty playing with the Islanders when the trade was made? I think he was, no? He’s already an NHL player, but developing in the AHL is better for him. Then he can get his offensive game going, while still being excellent defensively. Nice to see him and other young guys down there playing the right way and gaining confidence in the play with the puck too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, Alflives said: Was Raty playing with the Islanders when the trade was made? I think he was, no? He’s already an NHL player, but developing in the AHL is better for him. Then he can get his offensive game going, while still being excellent defensively. Nice to see him and other young guys down there playing the right way and gaining confidence in the play with the puck too. He was reassigned (January 29th) to the Islanders’ AHL team in Bridgeport the day before the trade happened (January 30th). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googlie Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 He'd played 12 games with the big club but had been sent back down at the time of the trade. All told this season he's played 27 games with Bridgeport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B Cooper Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 On 2/11/2023 at 3:14 AM, Canuck You said: Most people in Abbotsford have more of an accent than this kid. I thought he was from Finland!? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck You Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, D.B Cooper said: Most people in Abbotsford have more of an accent than this kid. I thought he was from Finland!? Yupp, Was not expecting that but dude doesn't skip a beat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 12 hours ago, Ghostsof1915 said: The Sedin Effect. More like the Miller effect. The high risk high reward blind back pass! I kid, I kid.. kinda. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Shayster007 said: More like the Miller effect. The high risk high reward blind back pass! I kid, I kid.. kinda. Miller could take some tips from AR about playing a responsible 200ft game 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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