sarjakd Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 4 hours ago, NHL'er said: Opening up a Russian quota for Vladislav Gavrikov And Barbashev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 2 hours ago, mll said: Would have to go through waivers to go to the AHL. Yeah that's right. I think he more than likely clears. He's about 2 years away from competing for a spot. He needs work on his defensive game and offensive confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 Milstein is going to pump Barbashev and Gavrikov to Vancouver. Maybe Zadorov via a trade with Calgary. So we will get our Gold Star quota back… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 1 hour ago, guntrix said: When are we going to have an honest conversation about all these misses from this management? Really want to see the Canucks win in my lifetime but I'm having my doubts. It's a bad trade in hindsight. There was way too much hype in the drafting pedigree. Also, quite a few Ranger fans feel their prospect development is crappy, which includes Kratvsov. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 I kind of figured he was gonna go the way of Goldobin. Rangers fans on Reddit had nothing but good things to say about the news as well. Lol. Most said they knew it was coming, only one guy I seen said he was glad they didn't trade a star for nothing. Had no upvotes. So it definitely seems like most of them already knew he was a nothing burger before this news came out. It sucks to trade Lockwood and a 7th for a floater. But I won't cry too much, but this is why I am tired of taking other team's cast offs. They are cast offs for a reason. It's clear he wasn't built for the NHL or for the grind. People blamed the Rangers for not developing him, and while they are bad at it. You can't develop a dude if he refuses to report to the AHL. Lol. Development is one part the team and one part the player actually willing to learn. Kravstov and Tryamkin are the types to run from hard work and paying their dues. Good riddance. Glad he is far away from Podkolzin, I still have hope for him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 19 minutes ago, Dazzle said: It's a bad trade in hindsight. There was way too much hype in the drafting pedigree. Also, quite a few Ranger fans feel their prospect development is crappy, which includes Kratvsov. I got killed for saying this on reddit, I didn't like the trade at the time it was made either. We didn't need a project winger. We still have our own project wingers we want to develop. If Kravstov was a center or a d-man I would absolutely be okay paying the AHLer + long shot pick for him. It was a silly trade from the get-go imo. But like I said, it's not really a huge deal. It's just a waste of nothing assets and time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 6 hours ago, Gurn said: Please allow me to be the first person that says "OMG we are losing all our elite 4 or 5th line players." GIF Already found someone on instagram whining about giving up a 7th a couple years down the road... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eeeeergh Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 2 hours ago, guntrix said: When are we going to have an honest conversation about all these misses from this management? Really want to see the Canucks win in my lifetime but I'm having my doubts. What? misses: stillman (free, in the Dickinson cap dump. Still managed to salvage a decent prospect - Bloom) dermott (injury) kravtsov (we lost a 7th rounder and an AHL player aaaaaaa) management had a ton of hits, but you don’t think landing kuzmenko, a 40 goal scorer, for free, makes up for the above?? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post eeeeergh Posted May 23, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2023 The moping in this thread is incredible ofc this was a trade they should take 10/10 times jfc. even if he had a 10% chance of “change of scenery” turning it around (as it has for tons of other players in the past), his ceiling was/is HIGH That’s the reality of the buy low/sell high game. Sometimes you buy low because he’s worth… low. we got Bear for peanuts too and he ended up being a solid top-4 rhd for us Management signed lazar (cost 0 assets) and sold him for a 4th rounder. I think we can give them a break on losing a 7th rounder and AHL player 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 5 hours ago, Hairy Kneel said: To be honest I didn't care for his play. I liked his defensive play, he was a black hole offensively though. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putgolzin Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 8 hours ago, R3aL said: His summer just got a whole lot easier… Haha, that was my thought too! I was hoping he didn’t leave cause I once called him Krapsoft on here…realistically it probably had more to do with the coach impressing upon him how hard it was going to be to become a real player in his system. As for me, back to my burgers and beers… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 A point for consideration is the possible loss of Russian players who might return home as the course of the war in Ukraine evolves. I my experience with Russians is that they love their country despite who runs it. How deep does that patriotism run in many Russian NHL players? Of course the reverse can also be true as players want to keep their families away from the almost inevitable collapse of that country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 pretty predictable. he was about the least impactful player I've ever seen. low risk, medium reward swing and a miss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timråfan Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 11 hours ago, Provost said: Wait, didn’t half the forum have him pencilled into our top 6 as a way to make our current cap debacle work out? I guess maybe more guaranteed money in the KHL than what the team was willing to offer in the AHL on a 2 way contract. It was always a risk loosing him due to we had to have him play in AHL to be better suited for us. He was definately not ready for a top 6 spot so it was either AHL or KHL. The upside now is that we can sign another player. You know, glass half full… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJDDawg Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 Good riddance. We need to stop being a dumping ground for projects like this. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmo2337 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 At the time, "We were doing a thing". The problem is, that thing included giving away another draft pick for nothing. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 17 minutes ago, MJDDawg said: Good riddance. We need to stop being a dumping ground for projects like this. My thought however is... Why didnt we claim a guy like Vrana? Kravy has never produced at an NHL level while Vrana has. i feel like we need to take a shot at guys like that and then dump/ waive them if it doesnt work out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 This is probably for the best. And it’s likely in the Canucks’ best interests to retain his rights. Kravtsov is only 23, so he won’t be UFA-eligible at the end of the 2 years. In the chance that he does really well in the KHL and wants to try the NHL again (like Nichushkin), those rights might be worth something at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, CanucksJay said: My thought however is... Why didnt we claim a guy like Vrana? Kravy has never produced at an NHL level while Vrana has. i feel like we need to take a shot at guys like that and then dump/ waive them if it doesnt work out. $5.25M cap hit, for a guy who hasn’t played hockey in ages. That’s a helluva risk. St. Louis took a shot on him, but only after Detroit retained 50%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, D-Money said: $5.25M cap hit, for a guy who hasn’t played hockey in ages. That’s a helluva risk. St. Louis took a shot on him, but only after Detroit retained 50%. Thats true Hes pretty much like Boeser but with extended time off... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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