Media Market needs to stop the anxiety ridden framing of every argument.

[Dazzle]

5 hours ago, IBatch said:

Best way to counter media negativity and the media in general, is just don't participate.    Aside from Allvin and Tochett interviews,  which some kind hearted soul will post on this site to give us something to discuss,  if we all just left the rest alone, maybe they'd get the message we don't want to, or need to hear it.    They are very negative.    Watched the one with Button, after  the Hronek trade and wow were they ready for and hoping they'd back them up in dumping all over the trade.   

Started slyly, then when Button wasn't biting became direct with not liking the trade and Button had to raise his voice and explain his stance to shut them up.

 

Button went on to say Hronek is a legit top pairing RHD.   Explained to them how given the make-up of our defense is so lacking in this area, that if they were going to keep the pick, they might as well blow it all up, including EP and QHs.   Also had to explain to them how bad the odds are to get something as good as Hronek where NYI ended up, and IF they beat the odds with that pick, how many years it would take to develop the player and hinted to what it would mean for the core's current deals.   Button absolutely loved that trade for us.    But of course it was wrong blah blah blah.    It's hard for me to believe they'd be that clueless about the sport they are supposed to be adding value to for our fanbase.    
 

We don't need yes men either, but it would be great to have less fear mongering, and a media that gives credit where it is due.    It appears they have a plan.    Given that after they make a move (Horvat, OEL buyout,  Bruce despite the optics / Tochett), more things come after that are connected to that move.    And for the first time in what seems like forever, the team actually did something that seemed like an obvious direction to a somewhat informed fan.       

 

RHD, one of the biggest topics on this site going back to before the Myers signing.  Is Hronek the right guy?   By all accounts he should be a good player for us.   Our D and team needs size badly.    Soucy has been on my personal wish list since I watched him pound away at our forwards in the bubble, didn't track the minutes, but he seemed to be MIN almost effective playoff D at the time, not Suter,  not Dumba.   Allvin recognized we needed to add size, and did exactly that.    Also brought in someone he was familiar with during his PIT days, who would help our PK.    THREE major weakness's were addressed.  

 

Top pairing RHD check.   PK  check check check,  it's our D holding us back there plus not having any bottom six forwards to rely on.     Our first PK unit just got stronger, and QHs won't have to do that anymore, barring injuries, and most importantly, OEL and Myers won't either!   

 

Lots of the elephant left to eat, but they've managed to eat the limbs and are heavily into the biggest part of the meal now.   Logically we need to add a legit top four, a good one, still.    We have the bones at least for two top pairings.    If they can somehow swing that this summer, remain cap complaint, and do it at a low cost,  they'd still find a reason to complain i'm sure.   

Could've drafted one or two RDs. Hronek is developed, sure, but we just threw away a mid round 1st round AND a high second rounder in a DEEP draft. That is a very expensive price to pay for a player that may or may not pan out for you.

 

Why are we paying like we're a playoff team?

[Hairy Kneel]

2 minutes ago, Dazzle said:

Could've drafted one or two RDs. Hronek is developed, sure, but we just threw away a mid round 1st round AND a high second rounder in a DEEP draft. That is a very expensive price to pay for a player that may or may not pan out for you.

 

Why are we paying like we're a playoff team?

Yes I tend to agree. Especially with all the defenseman that opened up this off season. 

[Fred65]

2 hours ago, Hairy Kneel said:

Yes I tend to agree. Especially with all the defenseman that opened up this off season. 

I could be wrong for sure but there seems to be a thought process about "I just want to play for a winner" EP stated as much as did Horvat. A couple of things, you need to keep FA profit margin up a bit ( acouple of rounds in the play-oo certainly helps.) Plus if you want to sign "better" players there has to be a better incentive than just the view of the Northshore Mountain. Losing is a tiring process and before you know it the franchise is recognized as a loser, then of course you needs fans to fork out for tickets. There were times last season fans couldn't even sell their tickets, no takers. Willander ( maybe good, toss of a coin) but he's likely 3 years away from proficency as an NHL player. Few draft picks are NHL ready to go

[Hairy Kneel]

1 hour ago, Fred65 said:

I could be wrong for sure but there seems to be a thought process about "I just want to play for a winner" EP stated as much as did Horvat. A couple of things, you need to keep FA profit margin up a bit ( acouple of rounds in the play-oo certainly helps.) Plus if you want to sign "better" players there has to be a better incentive than just the view of the Northshore Mountain. Losing is a tiring process and before you know it the franchise is recognized as a loser, then of course you needs fans to fork out for tickets. There were times last season fans couldn't even sell their tickets, no takers. Willander ( maybe good, toss of a coin) but he's likely 3 years away from proficency as an NHL player. Few draft picks are NHL ready to go

Yes, as we played our way out of the top 5 contention, we lost a chance at Simichev or Rhienbacher, and completly lost out on a top 5-7 forward. Then spending like a drunken Gramma for a good dman. 

 

 

 

Edited July 7, 2023 by Hairy Kneel

[coolboarder]

6 hours ago, Dazzle said:

Could've drafted one or two RDs. Hronek is developed, sure, but we just threw away a mid round 1st round AND a high second rounder in a DEEP draft. That is a very expensive price to pay for a player that may or may not pan out for you.

 

Why are we paying like we're a playoff team?

I happen to agree with you.  If it was any other year, giving up mid 1st and 2nd round is ok but it is what it is.  I liked this trade and we really need RHD but it is all a bout timing.  Had we held on the trade and wait until draft to make a decision, I do not think Detroit would have made a trade, it was either now or never type of deal at the TDL..   We can always trade Hronek since he still a RFA next off-season with sign and trade type of deal where he will need a new deal to recover some type of 1st round draft pick and a top prospect or 2nd, whenever we could fetch for him.

[MaxVerstappen33]

7 hours ago, Hairy Kneel said:

Yes I tend to agree. Especially with all the defenseman that opened up this off season. 

There wasnt any free agent Dmen at the level of Hronek. 

 

We under paid for Hronek compared to the roster player for picks trades that happened more recently 

[Alflives]

7 hours ago, Dazzle said:

Could've drafted one or two RDs. Hronek is developed, sure, but we just threw away a mid round 1st round AND a high second rounder in a DEEP draft. That is a very expensive price to pay for a player that may or may not pan out for you.

 

Why are we paying like we're a playoff team?

We rebuild then? Button explained it best. Great job by Allvin getting Hronek. And he is right. 

[MaxVerstappen33]

On 7/6/2023 at 7:17 AM, Phat Fingers said:

 

Sekeres is abusing the word Concern over and over in this clip.

 

as a person that understands the importance of language which is ironic cuz I am dyslexic as f**k, but it actually makes me more aware, but this guy sounds like my ex wife before I am about to go up a ladder to fix the roof…

 

She has concerns but I built the god dammed house and put the roof on in the first place and mounted a ladder and had fall arrest equipment on…. So she was only really concerned that I would come back down safely…. As I latter found out.

 

Sowing doubts is actually what it was and over time it eroded our understanding of what a real concern was and what a exaggeration was.

 

Constant exaggeration is a tactic in gaslighting and in law in in propaganda, with some truth and a lot of unscientific and or unspecific vague words like ‘Concerns’

’Fears’ and ‘If’.

 

Now it’s fear that Elias Pettersson will pull one of the rarest moves in hockey, pulling a Johnny Hockey and screwing over the team that drafted him, developed him and gave the wee fiend a top spot on the line up and built a line around him to make his career take off as much as he worked his ass off too.

Now how many players walk to FA?

 

How many super stars who are 1st line centres?

 

Statements like ‘It’s not like this team has ever prioritized Elias Pettersson…’ are beyond ridiculous.

 

he could have said that about Quinn Hughes after Luke Schenn was dealt and Hronek was on the shelf after the trade, but not after this draft and FA, so forget Podzkolsin, forget JT Miller, forget Kuzemenko, forget bringing the Sedins into the management and coaching and mentoring roles, forget getting totally Pro Coaching Bench with how many Cup Rings and or play off games between them, Tochett as a coach, Adam Foote and Gonchar?

 

Last season showed the division in the Locker Room,  with Bruce and Horvat having this love in when last year it JT an Bruce, with it causing friction.

 

Unless Bruce was directed by Alvin to ‘Pump and Dump’ but it looked like Bruce wanted JT to be the secondary second choice behind Elias and while Horvat scored a ton of goals, he was not a generator of offence with his line mates with a 2-1 goals to assist ratio last year.

 

it also made Horvat unaffordable for Vancouver to sign and was a change from last season where the offence went thru Elias to JT to Horvat.

 

but the idea that keeping Brock is not also for Elias, as they are close friends and Alvin addressing the long term deficit this team has had on Defence since the Mike Gillis days in terms of any development after Tanev.

 

Until Quinn Hughes.

 

So whether we have fixed the gaping hole on the back end, and over developed our forwards and forward depth much to benefit the offence and that is mostly Elias, it’s absurd to claim the club has rarely prioritized Pettersson.

 

Listen to Dwali, just don’t look at the shirt he is wearing it may cause a headache, and hear the interview with JP Barry, it was very chill and all parties understand that the deal is their to be made and they all needed to re charge and take whatever vacation time they have and come back in a month or 6 weeks.

 

Don Taylor was playing the role of Sekeres then and he quit pretty fast when it was just ignored by JP Barry after it was shot down the first time.

 

Next it will be ‘Is Demko healed or will he be as bad as the start to last season…?’ 
 

Which would make sense if Demko finished the year injured instead of playing very well, maybe too good as we slipped from 5th to 11th in the draft…

 

and he was injured and had corrective treatment and therapies in between his bad play, due to the injury that didn’t heal from the end of last season, and he returned look g like our Number One Goalie.

 

We bring in a solid number 5 D man that can bring a missing element to our game, being big and mean and able to back it up, while also having a scoring touch.

 

Then we bring in a solid veteran number 3 d man in Ian Cole and another depth d man with 500 games who is a local guy…

 

Plus add drafted players who are RHD and able to be effective players beyond their peers, especially Willander.

 

All positive steps and exactly the type of solid sound prudent moves we had to make after buying out OEL.

 

A+

 

Hronek was the big move and now the media are hand wringing about whether he will be ‘as advertised’ while only being stat watching, not having reviewed his play in Detroit and just on the 4 games or so he played solid sound minutes but was shut down for next season.

 

what is there to worry about,

 

go look at the YouTube Highlights and scouting videos and you’ll see he looks pretty decent and he was a sought after player by Alvin and Rutherford.

 

So if you are doubting Hronek and that deal without any reason too, your really just stirring the pot of controversy to drum up hits and listens and views.

 

Hey, it’s sports newscasting, so there is always an entertainment aspect and a tinge of theatre.

 

This is also what super shady news and or propaganda sites and media outlets spew all the time and we can do better and so can this crew.

 

Sekeres and Price are pretty good mostly and Patterson is fair enough, so is Dwali, if not a bit comic.

 

Just need to look optimistic in the middle of the off season about the unknown and really, if the Club and Bear have made a hand shake deal, which would truly benefit both sides in his unfortunately timed injury could be a silver lining scenario where it allowed Ian Cole to be added and have Soucy and Myers share the 4 spot minutes in a 4/5 role and not over work either unless the two streaky big guys get hot for a few games.

 

Alvin and the club view Bear as a legit 4th RHD guy, a capable defender and able to contribute on the score sheet too.

 

We have a much stronger team with Bear and it’s likely to go down with him being signed as the LTIR kicks in on Poolman.

 

The only fear, concern and if other than Bear atm I have about this off-season other than the usual ahl and or RFA players still left to work into the roster, is dumping a 4-6 million dollar surplus winger contract, or figuring out who can best step into a face off role and light duty as a Center cause we have some work left to make the cap and balance our top 4 lines… 

 

lol. 

 

 

 

 

I agree with the post. But this is what Canucks fans specialize in. They managed to convince the whole league that Jim Benning is the worse GM in history. When he wasn't even the worst in his tenure. That was Peter Chiarelli. 

 

Canucks fans always think their problems are worse than everyone else's are. Every team is built on compromises. 

[Hairy Kneel]

49 minutes ago, MaxVerstappen33 said:

There wasnt any free agent Dmen at the level of Hronek. 

 

We under paid for Hronek compared to the roster player for picks trades that happened more recently 

A 1st a 2nd plus whatever at that price point. We overpaid, not fleeced, but over paid. I would say Klingberg plus our two of Cole and Soucy. 

Klingberg 

Plus keeping our draft picks! 

 

Edited July 8, 2023 by Hairy Kneel

[alt kilgore]

29 minutes ago, MaxVerstappen33 said:

I agree with the post. But this is what Canucks fans specialize in. They managed to convince the whole league that Jim Benning is the worse GM in history. When he wasn't even the worst in his tenure. That was Peter Chiarelli. 

 

Canucks fans always think their problems are worse than everyone else's are. Every team is built on compromises. 

Nah.  you have that backwards.  Jim Benning convinced Canucks fans that he was the worst GM in Canucks history - at least. I never heard anyone say he was the worst in the league's history. But if I had to rank him there, he'd be in the top (bottom) ten, maybe even bottom five. The OEL trade has to be one of the worst ever taking into account everything we gave up, plus a buy out and future cap hits for the next eight f'n years,... and the bonus, an overpaid small winger no one else wants.  That deal was the final nail for a lot of fans.

With every idiot decision he convinced a few more of us fans to see the incompetent fool of a yes-man we had running our favourite team for way too long.

[TheCammer]

Honestly not sure why anyone listens to this hockey drivel anymore. I stopped years ago. The "takes" are meant to build audience, nothing more. Listeners are sheep being led to the slaughter. Hockey lemmings that obtain their "take" from a radio hockey bozo and then come share it on CDC. Comical and sad.

 

That's my take.

[-DLC-]

Sekeres is a bozo. I think he was probably that annoying kid in grade 3 who needed attention and did dumb stuff that no one found funny. Put him and Drance together and you have a hockey clown posse. Jason Brough too. Bro, no. There are some who think their cool factor is higher by being anti-Canuck. There's not a lot of balance in their takes. So washed up because they tend to stay stuck.

 

Satiar Shah, Iain McIntyre and, to some extent, Randip Janda are the ones that I really tend to listen to. I feel they deliver quality content and it is balanced.

[DSVII]

15 hours ago, MaxVerstappen33 said:

I agree with the post. But this is what Canucks fans specialize in. They managed to convince the whole league that Jim Benning is the worse GM in history. When he wasn't even the worst in his tenure. That was Peter Chiarelli. 

 

Canucks fans always think their problems are worse than everyone else's are. Every team is built on compromises. 

Chiarelli was definitely worse than Benning. 

 

But there's 32 GMs in the league so that still puts Benning in the 10th percentile of GMs. 

 

I would say there was really one other team that faced our unique situation of having a 28th ranked prospect pool while finishing in the bottom part of the standings bc of a failed retool on the fly and that's probably Philly.

[-DLC-]

And I must say I totally agree with how things are framed. If it's a constant negative label, it can stick.

 

Just because these guys says it's so doesn't make it so. More likely, not.

 

It is driven by clicks/likes/views....controversial gets more hits. These guys put their stuff out there to get attention more so than deliver balanced factual takes. Not as much "reporting" as it is stirring the pot. Kicking up some dust.

[Goal:thecup]

6 minutes ago, -DLC- said:

And I must say I totally agree with how things are framed. If it's a constant negative label, it can stick.

 

Just because these guys says it's so doesn't make it so. More likely, not.

 

It is driven by clicks/likes/views....controversial gets more hits. These guys put their stuff out there to get attention more so than deliver balanced factual takes.

Plus, they troll the forums for ideas and discussion points.

I still maintain that any 'professional journalists' (ha ha) that are on CDC should be outed and made to account for trolling behaviour and credit CDC when they use stuff from here.

There is just too much crap sprinkled with factual content to conclude that these are actual fans posting.

[PJs: anybody that is earning from their blog, podcast, (I don't know the diff, lol), talk shows, sports events et cetera.)

[erkayloomeh]

On 7/6/2023 at 8:17 AM, Phat Fingers said:

 

Sekeres is abusing the word Concern over and over in this clip.

 

as a person that understands the importance of language which is ironic cuz I am dyslexic as f**k, but it actually makes me more aware, but this guy sounds like my ex wife before I am about to go up a ladder to fix the roof…

 

She has concerns but I built the god dammed house and put the roof on in the first place and mounted a ladder and had fall arrest equipment on…. So she was only really concerned that I would come back down safely…. As I latter found out.

 

Sowing doubts is actually what it was and over time it eroded our understanding of what a real concern was and what a exaggeration was.

 

Constant exaggeration is a tactic in gaslighting and in law in in propaganda, with some truth and a lot of unscientific and or unspecific vague words like ‘Concerns’

’Fears’ and ‘If’.

 

Now it’s fear that Elias Pettersson will pull one of the rarest moves in hockey, pulling a Johnny Hockey and screwing over the team that drafted him, developed him and gave the wee fiend a top spot on the line up and built a line around him to make his career take off as much as he worked his ass off too.

Now how many players walk to FA?

 

How many super stars who are 1st line centres?

 

Statements like ‘It’s not like this team has ever prioritized Elias Pettersson…’ are beyond ridiculous.

 

he could have said that about Quinn Hughes after Luke Schenn was dealt and Hronek was on the shelf after the trade, but not after this draft and FA, so forget Podzkolsin, forget JT Miller, forget Kuzemenko, forget bringing the Sedins into the management and coaching and mentoring roles, forget getting totally Pro Coaching Bench with how many Cup Rings and or play off games between them, Tochett as a coach, Adam Foote and Gonchar?

 

Last season showed the division in the Locker Room,  with Bruce and Horvat having this love in when last year it JT an Bruce, with it causing friction.

 

Unless Bruce was directed by Alvin to ‘Pump and Dump’ but it looked like Bruce wanted JT to be the secondary second choice behind Elias and while Horvat scored a ton of goals, he was not a generator of offence with his line mates with a 2-1 goals to assist ratio last year.

 

it also made Horvat unaffordable for Vancouver to sign and was a change from last season where the offence went thru Elias to JT to Horvat.

 

but the idea that keeping Brock is not also for Elias, as they are close friends and Alvin addressing the long term deficit this team has had on Defence since the Mike Gillis days in terms of any development after Tanev.

 

Until Quinn Hughes.

 

So whether we have fixed the gaping hole on the back end, and over developed our forwards and forward depth much to benefit the offence and that is mostly Elias, it’s absurd to claim the club has rarely prioritized Pettersson.

 

Listen to Dwali, just don’t look at the shirt he is wearing it may cause a headache, and hear the interview with JP Barry, it was very chill and all parties understand that the deal is their to be made and they all needed to re charge and take whatever vacation time they have and come back in a month or 6 weeks.

 

Don Taylor was playing the role of Sekeres then and he quit pretty fast when it was just ignored by JP Barry after it was shot down the first time.

 

Next it will be ‘Is Demko healed or will he be as bad as the start to last season…?’ 
 

Which would make sense if Demko finished the year injured instead of playing very well, maybe too good as we slipped from 5th to 11th in the draft…

 

and he was injured and had corrective treatment and therapies in between his bad play, due to the injury that didn’t heal from the end of last season, and he returned look g like our Number One Goalie.

 

We bring in a solid number 5 D man that can bring a missing element to our game, being big and mean and able to back it up, while also having a scoring touch.

 

Then we bring in a solid veteran number 3 d man in Ian Cole and another depth d man with 500 games who is a local guy…

 

Plus add drafted players who are RHD and able to be effective players beyond their peers, especially Willander.

 

All positive steps and exactly the type of solid sound prudent moves we had to make after buying out OEL.

 

A+

 

Hronek was the big move and now the media are hand wringing about whether he will be ‘as advertised’ while only being stat watching, not having reviewed his play in Detroit and just on the 4 games or so he played solid sound minutes but was shut down for next season.

 

what is there to worry about,

 

go look at the YouTube Highlights and scouting videos and you’ll see he looks pretty decent and he was a sought after player by Alvin and Rutherford.

 

So if you are doubting Hronek and that deal without any reason too, your really just stirring the pot of controversy to drum up hits and listens and views.

 

Hey, it’s sports newscasting, so there is always an entertainment aspect and a tinge of theatre.

 

This is also what super shady news and or propaganda sites and media outlets spew all the time and we can do better and so can this crew.

 

Sekeres and Price are pretty good mostly and Patterson is fair enough, so is Dwali, if not a bit comic.

 

Just need to look optimistic in the middle of the off season about the unknown and really, if the Club and Bear have made a hand shake deal, which would truly benefit both sides in his unfortunately timed injury could be a silver lining scenario where it allowed Ian Cole to be added and have Soucy and Myers share the 4 spot minutes in a 4/5 role and not over work either unless the two streaky big guys get hot for a few games.

 

Alvin and the club view Bear as a legit 4th RHD guy, a capable defender and able to contribute on the score sheet too.

 

We have a much stronger team with Bear and it’s likely to go down with him being signed as the LTIR kicks in on Poolman.

 

The only fear, concern and if other than Bear atm I have about this off-season other than the usual ahl and or RFA players still left to work into the roster, is dumping a 4-6 million dollar surplus winger contract, or figuring out who can best step into a face off role and light duty as a Center cause we have some work left to make the cap and balance our top 4 lines… 

 

lol. 

 

 

 

 

Have you ever heard of Neil Macrae? 

[DefCon1]

18 hours ago, Hairy Kneel said:

A 1st a 2nd plus whatever at that price point. We overpaid, not fleeced, but over paid. I would say Klingberg plus our two of Cole and Soucy. 

Klingberg 

Plus keeping our draft picks! 

 

Klingberg is garbage. You are comparing someone that has worst defense than Tyson Barrie with Hronek who was one of the best defensive D man on Detroit last season with offense to boot?? Might as well compare Pietrangelo to Klingberg and call them the same. They aren't and we paid a fair price to get Hronek, a dman that is pretty rare to get in today's NHL. 

[5nothincanucksohno]

On 7/6/2023 at 7:17 AM, Phat Fingers said:

 

Sekeres is abusing the word Concern over and over in this clip.

 

as a person that understands the importance of language which is ironic cuz I am dyslexic as f**k, but it actually makes me more aware, but this guy sounds like my ex wife before I am about to go up a ladder to fix the roof…

 

She has concerns but I built the god dammed house and put the roof on in the first place and mounted a ladder and had fall arrest equipment on…. So she was only really concerned that I would come back down safely…. As I latter found out.

 

Sowing doubts is actually what it was and over time it eroded our understanding of what a real concern was and what a exaggeration was.

 

Constant exaggeration is a tactic in gaslighting and in law in in propaganda, with some truth and a lot of unscientific and or unspecific vague words like ‘Concerns’

’Fears’ and ‘If’.

 

Now it’s fear that Elias Pettersson will pull one of the rarest moves in hockey, pulling a Johnny Hockey and screwing over the team that drafted him, developed him and gave the wee fiend a top spot on the line up and built a line around him to make his career take off as much as he worked his ass off too.

Now how many players walk to FA?

 

How many super stars who are 1st line centres?

 

Statements like ‘It’s not like this team has ever prioritized Elias Pettersson…’ are beyond ridiculous.

 

he could have said that about Quinn Hughes after Luke Schenn was dealt and Hronek was on the shelf after the trade, but not after this draft and FA, so forget Podzkolsin, forget JT Miller, forget Kuzemenko, forget bringing the Sedins into the management and coaching and mentoring roles, forget getting totally Pro Coaching Bench with how many Cup Rings and or play off games between them, Tochett as a coach, Adam Foote and Gonchar?

 

Last season showed the division in the Locker Room,  with Bruce and Horvat having this love in when last year it JT an Bruce, with it causing friction.

 

Unless Bruce was directed by Alvin to ‘Pump and Dump’ but it looked like Bruce wanted JT to be the secondary second choice behind Elias and while Horvat scored a ton of goals, he was not a generator of offence with his line mates with a 2-1 goals to assist ratio last year.

 

it also made Horvat unaffordable for Vancouver to sign and was a change from last season where the offence went thru Elias to JT to Horvat.

 

but the idea that keeping Brock is not also for Elias, as they are close friends and Alvin addressing the long term deficit this team has had on Defence since the Mike Gillis days in terms of any development after Tanev.

 

Until Quinn Hughes.

 

So whether we have fixed the gaping hole on the back end, and over developed our forwards and forward depth much to benefit the offence and that is mostly Elias, it’s absurd to claim the club has rarely prioritized Pettersson.

 

Listen to Dwali, just don’t look at the shirt he is wearing it may cause a headache, and hear the interview with JP Barry, it was very chill and all parties understand that the deal is their to be made and they all needed to re charge and take whatever vacation time they have and come back in a month or 6 weeks.

 

Don Taylor was playing the role of Sekeres then and he quit pretty fast when it was just ignored by JP Barry after it was shot down the first time.

 

Next it will be ‘Is Demko healed or will he be as bad as the start to last season…?’ 
 

Which would make sense if Demko finished the year injured instead of playing very well, maybe too good as we slipped from 5th to 11th in the draft…

 

and he was injured and had corrective treatment and therapies in between his bad play, due to the injury that didn’t heal from the end of last season, and he returned look g like our Number One Goalie.

 

We bring in a solid number 5 D man that can bring a missing element to our game, being big and mean and able to back it up, while also having a scoring touch.

 

Then we bring in a solid veteran number 3 d man in Ian Cole and another depth d man with 500 games who is a local guy…

 

Plus add drafted players who are RHD and able to be effective players beyond their peers, especially Willander.

 

All positive steps and exactly the type of solid sound prudent moves we had to make after buying out OEL.

 

A+

 

Hronek was the big move and now the media are hand wringing about whether he will be ‘as advertised’ while only being stat watching, not having reviewed his play in Detroit and just on the 4 games or so he played solid sound minutes but was shut down for next season.

 

what is there to worry about,

 

go look at the YouTube Highlights and scouting videos and you’ll see he looks pretty decent and he was a sought after player by Alvin and Rutherford.

 

So if you are doubting Hronek and that deal without any reason too, your really just stirring the pot of controversy to drum up hits and listens and views.

 

Hey, it’s sports newscasting, so there is always an entertainment aspect and a tinge of theatre.

 

This is also what super shady news and or propaganda sites and media outlets spew all the time and we can do better and so can this crew.

 

Sekeres and Price are pretty good mostly and Patterson is fair enough, so is Dwali, if not a bit comic.

 

Just need to look optimistic in the middle of the off season about the unknown and really, if the Club and Bear have made a hand shake deal, which would truly benefit both sides in his unfortunately timed injury could be a silver lining scenario where it allowed Ian Cole to be added and have Soucy and Myers share the 4 spot minutes in a 4/5 role and not over work either unless the two streaky big guys get hot for a few games.

 

Alvin and the club view Bear as a legit 4th RHD guy, a capable defender and able to contribute on the score sheet too.

 

We have a much stronger team with Bear and it’s likely to go down with him being signed as the LTIR kicks in on Poolman.

 

The only fear, concern and if other than Bear atm I have about this off-season other than the usual ahl and or RFA players still left to work into the roster, is dumping a 4-6 million dollar surplus winger contract, or figuring out who can best step into a face off role and light duty as a Center cause we have some work left to make the cap and balance our top 4 lines… 

 

lol. 

 

 

 

 

Problem is only extreme individuals in the fan base actually listen to the media or go on twitter so that is all that gets reported...Van Mgmt just needs to stop reacting to it. Go the Trader Joe's route and tell the negative minority to get lost 

[Hairy Kneel]

4 hours ago, DefCon1 said:

Klingberg is garbage. You are comparing someone that has worst defense than Tyson Barrie with Hronek who was one of the best defensive D man on Detroit last season with offense to boot?? Might as well compare Pietrangelo to Klingberg and call them the same. They aren't and we paid a fair price to get Hronek, a dman that is pretty rare to get in today's NHL. 

400 points in 600 games as a fill in till we had someone come up. Of course paired with Cole or Saucy. As a temp only.

But then KEEPING our draft picks!

[The Arrogant Worms]

On 7/7/2023 at 6:07 AM, EddieVedder said:

Dunno about that. Most who understand hockey dont tune in bcuz of that garbage 

That is a small % lol