rekker Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Weak third for EP. Looked tired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 oh thank god the entire Swedish team looked bad. *phew* 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny in Vancouver Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 hour ago, rekker said: Thing with EP. For such a skinny kid, gets knocked down easy, he's not afraid of the boards or to initiate contact. I see him fall or get knocked down and it doesn't faze him. He has a very high motor. Plus, he has a big brother who plays the same sport and you know how that goes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedintwinpowersactivate Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 EP did not get much ice time in the 2nd half of the game. The style of the game was for grinders and board play specialists... which is not EP's forte. I'd like to see him get some AHL time next season to get more accustomed to NA ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 51 minutes ago, Odd. said: Kinda reminds me of Virtanen. Just without the physical side. I am not completely sure if this statement of similarity is supposed to apply to Pettersson or Nylander. I don't really see it for either one, especially Pettersson. Virtanen is fast and physically strong and plays a physical game. Those are the keys to his game. He plays mainly a straight line game and he has learned to play decent defence. In terms of level, he has established himself as a legitimate NHL 4th-liner in that he could play on the 4th line on a lot of teams. And with a bit more progress, I could see him as a legitimate 3rd liner and maybe playing some shutdown even on a good team. (He has been playing shutdown on the Canucks due to injuries, but the injury-depleted Canucks are not a good NHL team,as reflected in the recent losing streak.) As has been much discussed, hockey IQ, finish around the net and playmaking are not his strengths. Pettersson of course has a very high hockey IQ, is great around the net, and is a very good passer. He is good skater but does not have Virtanen's speed and obviously does not have Virtanen's strength or physical game. They are pretty much complete opposites as far as I can see. And, in terms of level, given standard league adjustment factors and normal development curves, Pettersson projects as a likely NHL first liner, and certainly no worse than a scoring second liner. If the comparison is between Virtanen and Nylander, I still don't really see it. What do you have in mind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 7 minutes ago, JamesB said: I am not completely sure if this statement of similarity is supposed to apply to Pettersson or Nylander. I don't really see it for either one, especially Pettersson. Virtanen is fast and physically strong and plays a physical game. Those are the keys to his game. He plays mainly a straight line game and he has learned to play decent defence. In terms of level, he has established himself as a legitimate NHL 4th-liner in that he could play on the 4th line on a lot of teams. And with a bit more progress, I could see him as a legitimate 3rd liner and maybe playing some shutdown even on a good team. (He has been playing shutdown on the Canucks due to injuries, but the injury-depleted Canucks are not a good NHL team,as reflected in the recent losing streak.) As has been much discussed, hockey IQ, finish around the net and playmaking are not his strengths. Pettersson of course has a very high hockey IQ, is great around the net, and is a very good passer. He is good skater but does not have Virtanen's speed and obviously does not have Virtanen's strength or physical game. They are pretty much complete opposites as far as I can see. And, in terms of level, given standard league adjustment factors and normal development curves, Pettersson projects as a likely NHL first liner, and certainly no worse than a scoring second liner. If the comparison is between Virtanen and Nylander, I still don't really see it. What do you have in mind? I meant Nylander. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedintwinpowersactivate Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, JamesB said: I am not completely sure if this statement of similarity is supposed to apply to Pettersson or Nylander. I don't really see it for either one, especially Pettersson. Virtanen is fast and physically strong and plays a physical game. Those are the keys to his game. He plays mainly a straight line game and he has learned to play decent defence. In terms of level, he has established himself as a legitimate NHL 4th-liner in that he could play on the 4th line on a lot of teams. And with a bit more progress, I could see him as a legitimate 3rd liner and maybe playing some shutdown even on a good team. (He has been playing shutdown on the Canucks due to injuries, but the injury-depleted Canucks are not a good NHL team,as reflected in the recent losing streak.) As has been much discussed, hockey IQ, finish around the net and playmaking are not his strengths. Pettersson of course has a very high hockey IQ, is great around the net, and is a very good passer. He is good skater but does not have Virtanen's speed and obviously does not have Virtanen's strength or physical game. They are pretty much complete opposites as far as I can see. And, in terms of level, given standard league adjustment factors and normal development curves, Pettersson projects as a likely NHL first liner, and certainly no worse than a scoring second liner. If the comparison is between Virtanen and Nylander, I still don't really see it. What do you have in mind? I'd agree that EP and Virtanen have nothing in common. I'd say that EP is similar to the Sedin's with Henrik's vision and passing and Daniel's shot. I haven't seen much speed from EP this tournament. His stickhandling is better than both Sedins though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedintwinpowersactivate Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Odd. said: I meant Nylander. Oh OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 thank god dhalin Liljegren Andersson and nylander also had no points. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 15 minutes ago, MoneypuckOverlord said: thank god dhalin Liljegren Andersson and nylander also had no points. Lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForzaTikare Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Pettersson and Nylander rated worst on ice in swedish media after The Quarter-finals Link: https://www.aftonbladet.se/sportbladet/hockey/a/wE8Pm4/sverige-klart-for-semifinal-i-jvm You could probably Google translate it with decent results Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Nylander is dragging Pettersson down wish Pettersson was on a line with Lias Andersson. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 54 minutes ago, flickyoursedin said: Nylander is dragging Pettersson down wish Pettersson was on a line with Lias Andersson. ya nylander sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 5 hours ago, flickyoursedin said: Nylander is dragging Pettersson down wish Pettersson was on a line with Lias Andersson. Wasn't Andersson their centre? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 EP looks like he will need another 15 - 20 pounds to survive in the NHL. Look at the hit Boeser took last night and ask yourself how well a 165 pounder will do? Euro hockey is no where close to the physicality found in the NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetroCanuck Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Boudrias said: EP looks like he will need another 15 - 20 pounds to survive in the NHL. Look at the hit Boeser took last night and ask yourself how well a 165 pounder will do? Euro hockey is no where close to the physicality found in the NHL. I agree, he needs more muscle in order to compete in this league 5 on5. He has the skill to step in right now but he shouldn't until he's physically ready. This tournament showed the need for Pettersson to become stronger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rob_Zepp Posted January 3, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2018 42 minutes ago, RetroCanuck said: I agree, he needs more muscle in order to compete in this league 5 on5. He has the skill to step in right now but he shouldn't until he's physically ready. This tournament showed the need for Pettersson to become stronger It also showed that no matter how big/small you are, if you have the flu and have lost weight from that and feel like your world is moving even when you are not it is hard to be at your best. I suspect that if he has he flu, so do others on the team and the less than stellar play by a few of them could be that they collectively simply are not feeling all that great. No one gets over the flu in 24 hours. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyoung Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 7 hours ago, Boudrias said: EP looks like he will need another 15 - 20 pounds to survive in the NHL. Look at the hit Boeser took last night and ask yourself how well a 165 pounder will do? Euro hockey is no where close to the physicality found in the NHL. Keep in mind how evasive Pettersson is. He is smart. He could play at 175, obviously the bigger the better but he's capable of being an impact player. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble 6 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 2 hours ago, cyoung said: Keep in mind how evasive Pettersson is. He is smart. He could play at 175, obviously the bigger the better but he's capable of being an impact player. Boeser is another high IQ player that has gotten run a couple times this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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