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So do you want Horvat to captain this team, or do you want to draft a generational player?

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At face value, the obvious answer to that question is, "how are those two things related and yes to both." Normally, the only two things pretty much universally agreed upon here are that Horvat is the captain in waiting and that the Canucks would benefit (duh) from drafting a generational talent. Here's a little food for thought: those things can't really go together. 

 

In 2018, the captain is almost always the team's best, highest paid, most marketable player. The days of having a less heralded, character guy as captain are pretty much entirely gone. This is especially true with generational players. They captain their teams. Even the ones you wouldn't expect to end up  captaining their teams (Ovechkin, Erik Karlsson).

 

Which leads us to Horvat. If you name him captain, the only way that'll change is if he retires, signs elsewhere, or gets traded. There is no scenario where you make the guy captain, take it away, and have him stay with the team. What happens when you name him captain and then the team sucks again next year and wins the 1st overall?

 

That's why the best plan is to go with no captain next year. You draft in June, play the year, draft again NEXT June. and then see what you have in the system. If you have a guy that is going to be the face of the franchise, you throw the C on Sutter or Gudbranson until the kid is ready and give Bo an A. If you don't, you give Bo the C and you better stop building and start winning. 

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This is ridiculous, even by CDC standards.

 

You can name Horvat captain and still be able to draft the BPA.  I am confident that Benning will draft the type of character player that would be honoured to be an alternate captain.

 

Besides, 'Generational Talent' is a term that is WAY overused.

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24 minutes ago, tas said:

At face value, the obvious answer to that question is, "how are those two things related and yes to both." Normally, the only two things pretty much universally agreed upon here are that Horvat is the captain in waiting and that the Canucks would benefit (duh) from drafting a generational talent. Here's a little food for thought: those things can't really go together. 

 

In 2018, the captain is almost always the team's best, highest paid, most marketable player. The days of having a less heralded, character guy as captain are pretty much entirely gone. This is especially true with generational players. They captain their teams. Even the ones you wouldn't expect to end up  captaining their teams (Ovechkin, Erik Karlsson).

 

Which leads us to Horvat. If you name him captain, the only way that'll change is if he retires, signs elsewhere, or gets traded. There is no scenario where you make the guy captain, take it away, and have him stay with the team. What happens when you name him captain and then the team sucks again next year and wins the 1st overall?

 

That's why the best plan is to go with no captain next year. You draft in June, play the year, draft again NEXT June. and then see what you have in the system. If you have a guy that is going to be the face of the franchise, you throw the C on Sutter or Gudbranson until the kid is ready and give Bo an A. If you don't, you give Bo the C and you better stop building and start winning. 

well if that is your logic

and you intend to stick to it

 

my bet is that brock will be a better player then bo by the end of next season

and further bet is a couple years after that elias looks like he'll be better then both

 

how would you propose to deal with that ?
never name a captain ?

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Both.

 

Best leader on the team gets the captaincy over best player (Linden-Bure, Toews-Kane, etc).

 

If we get lucky enough to draft a high-end talent, I highly doubt it would affect our decision to make Bo captain. Same goes for Pettersson and Boeser as they are expected to be better offensive players than Bo. Even if we draft a high-end talent with leadership qualities, I doubt there would ever be talks to strip Bo of the C, he's a born leader, the other player(s) can have the A.

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20 minutes ago, hammertime said:

I'm down with no captain

 

I am too.  It's true, at this level of hockey the Captain is almost always the team's leading scorer.  

These letters are just symbols of the teams best players.  

 

What would the current job description of the Captain's duties be?

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