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1 minute ago, 189lb enforcers? said:

We should know.

We had twins like that. 

Yeah but they were barely in the D-zone. Almost always cycling the puck in the offensive zone that we never really got to know how good/bad they are defensively until latter parts of their career but by then their legs have already given ways so it's not fair to judge their defensively play based on the last two years of their careers.

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1 minute ago, 189lb enforcers? said:

Bertuzzi gave Mess a run for his money in this department too. 

He was still nowhere as near as bad as Nylander, who plays like he needs a tourist visa to cross his own blueline.  I don't care how many points he puts up, that kind of effort simply isn't acceptable. 

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1 minute ago, khay said:

Yeah but they were barely in the D-zone. Almost always cycling the puck in the offensive zone that we never really got to know how good/bad they are defensively until latter parts of their career but by then their legs have already given ways so it's not fair to judge their defensively play based on the last two years of their careers.

Disagree.

Stevie Y wasn’t alone in what he’s done in his old age out there. Lots of players, even 87 got better defensively with age. Speed is only part of D. 

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