canuck2288 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Hey Newell Brown you moron take a good look at San Jose’s penalty killing, do they sit back in a box with zero puck pressure and movement? nope maybe we could try that ? just a suggestion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 1 minute ago, theo5789 said: Sutter and Beagle went down. He shifted from being in more of an offensive role to a more defensive one. During that time, he had a ton of minutes. He's probably trying to get to the Christmas break and hopefully the team is healthier when they come back. Checking the icetime after the game, I did notice that the deployment was more even when the roster was healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck2288 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 I have said this many times.. we have the players we don’t have a legit coaching staff we will NOT make the playoffs unless we make a change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, theo5789 said: Young coaches need to develop too? Go figure. Of course, but I guess, we will see if this market will allow that (big difference between Van and Nashville) ??? Edited December 15, 2019 by ShawnAntoski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 11 minutes ago, theo5789 said: Top 10 in the league for goals for, but can't score goals... They are scoring but not at the right time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogcrazy Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Green keeps using "this is a young team" as his free pass. The Avs has a young team, Islander has a young team, Phoenix has a young team....Green's young team has to suck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 14 minutes ago, theo5789 said: Top 10 in the league for goals for, but can't score goals... Top 10? How many 5 goal + games have we scored against teams in the bottom half of the standing? And how many 2 goals or less games have we scored against team in the playoff hunt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 If Canucks do make a coaching change at some point this season who should they replace him with....Peter DeBoer?... He's said he would take another coaching job this season IF the right situation presented it self... Babs has too strong a personality. He's a very good coach but I don't know if he'd be a great fit in Vancouver... DeBoer made the SCF twice .. once with NJD and once with SJS. Just for discussion sake.. not calling for Green to be fired.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CptCanuck16 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 1 hour ago, theo5789 said: The team pretty much dominated the entire game aside from the 1st 10 minutes which unfortunately put them behind. We didn't get the result we wanted, but Green woke the team up. Green is a player's coach and is going to back his guys. Anything seriously negative that he has to say, he can tell his players behind closed doors. If he starts throwing players and his team under the bus, then he's going to lose the locker room fast. The players and the coach seem to have a mutual respect and that's a good thing. Whose talking about throwing guys under the bus? Any good coach in the post game will say "we did ABC real well, but we need to work on XYZ.". Win or lose. You never hear anything like that from Green. He *could be* like that behind closed doors, as you say, but he should be reassuring the public that he recognizes weaknesses in their game and is working on improving it. By not doing that he gives off the impression that he is completely satisfied with his teams performance and sees no issues with the status quo. If that is the case it's a very dangerous attitude to have. World class coaches always see room for improvement no matter how good the team is. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, CptCanuck16 said: Whose talking about throwing guys under the bus? Any good coach in the post game will say "we did ABC real well, but we need to work on XYZ.". Win or lose. You never hear anything like that from Green. He *could be* like that behind closed doors, as you say, but he should be reassuring the public that he recognizes weaknesses in their game and is working on improving it. By not doing that he gives off the impression that he is completely satisfied with his teams performance and sees no issues with the status quo. If that is the case it's a very dangerous attitude to have. World class coaches always see room for improvement no matter how good the team is. Great points ! Green seems to not want to fuel the media fire when he is in front of the cameras. Hypthetically, we all know that Bo is the right choice for Captain but this team seems to be EPs' - in my opinion. Looking at teams with succeesful coaches and records (of course there will be exceptions) seems to have a head coache that has a solid relationship with the teams' playmaker(s). Edited December 15, 2019 by ShawnAntoski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 (edited) 36 minutes ago, WHL rocks said: If Canucks do make a coaching change at some point this season who should they replace him with....Peter DeBoer?... He's said he would take another coaching job this season IF the right situation presented it self... Babs has too strong a personality. He's a very good coach but I don't know if he'd be a great fit in Vancouver... DeBoer made the SCF twice .. once with NJD and once with SJS. Just for discussion sake.. not calling for Green to be fired.... A good place to start, would probably be to ask the playmaker(s) opinion then the leaders when hiring for a new coach; a coach that will click with EP and have the leaders support (if I were the GM or the owner of this team). EP (based on his interviews) will probably voice his opinion but will also defer to his teammates for there opinions - talented but seems to have a team first attitude. Edited December 15, 2019 by ShawnAntoski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Duodenum Posted December 15, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2019 Jake Virtanen leads the team in even strength goals. Great for Jake, but the Canucks aren't going anywhere if a third liner is leading the way at even strength. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rounoush Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Missed this one but it really sounds like Green needs to get his s&% together or get out of town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EP Phone Home Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Annnnnd the wild have past us in the standings...The 2/3 games coming up against Vegas are going to be pretty vital if we want to keep playoff aspirations alive. The team never seems to be ready for the game, costing us to concede the first goal and lack of preparation has become a part our identity this year. Hopefully they can finish this next week with a winning streak and regroup after the holiday break. If not, our playoff chances be like this man. Going going gone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 The whole team just looks snake bitten... incredible chances missed during this game... Marky good... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Our shooters are lacking the killer instinct to score. Our shooters are looking like hope and a prayer type shooting. Throw some hot sauce on those dogs! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Moose Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Starting to believe Green is not the man for the job.. unfortunately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timråfan Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 (edited) I think Green should change the game. Put in the more creative players and stop trying to crash into ozone. Put in Goldy, Baer and Loui, change the set completely. Not all games but do it from time to time. We have the depth to shift between grinders and skilled. Edited December 15, 2019 by Timråfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timråfan Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 6 hours ago, theo5789 said: We keep our 1st if we don't make the playoffs. So don't worry, we are protected. So, if Green make a bad job we still keep him because we can keep our 1st? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItTakesAnArmy Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Expectations have been or are too high and the pressure on the young guys to win, too soon. The team needs more high skilled young players playing and proving in the NHL, not some "hopeful" prospects, those prospects only sell tickets, not win games. Build through the draft, hire a drafting GM, be patient, that was the refrain 4 years ago when many posters were arguing there was no rebuild happening, those poster were saying patience you can't expect over night success, it is a long process. Guess what, those same posters, a lot of them, now say the process is over after only two years of admitted rebuilding. True it can be accomplished that quickly but not by this GM who deals away the future to win now and then fails at that. Some posters point at players and coaches for the failures, wrong. Three coaches, Torts, Willie and Green. Numerous players But only one GM Clearly this GM's vision is wrong. All the young guys are feeling the pressure and it is affecting them as can be seen with Horvat's play, at home he isn't performing, where the heat is the highest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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