How swede it is Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 19 hours ago, Duodenum said: Beagle had 10 scoring chances against while out there and 0 for. Caved in the whole game. Thank Demko. Beagle isn't paid to create scoring chances, but to defend against them. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bree2 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 36 minutes ago, Smashian Kassian said: I do think Stawns had his doubts about Boeser for awhile. Otherwise I agree, feels like Boeser has become an unjust whipping boy to some. I'm with you, I think he's a pillar of what we're building. Only his 3rd year after dealing with injuries troubles the first 2. I think his confidence isn't quite where it was as a rookie, but he's got character & he's a guy you can win with. He's still young. Benning has said on numerous occasions that Boeser is apart of the core going forward 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 19 minutes ago, How swede it is said: Beagle isn't paid to create scoring chances, but to defend against them. And we had 13 quality chances to the Blues’ 10. That tells me Beagle was doing his job, and well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 5 hours ago, Petey_BOI said: what are you implying? one scoring line i never said. i get it gaudette is BAD at faceoffs,and we are stacked at C. but hockey isnt won at the faceoff dot or miller would be a ten million dollar player. we NEED two shudown lines and weakening our shutdown line and weakening our scoring line to just win some dots is not the way to go. We need two shut down line and hopefully two scoring lines. Hockey isn't won on the face off dot, but with the puck you don't get scored on neither, which I suppose is the primary plan of the shut down line. By putting Boeser on to the second line you hopefully get two scoring lines. At the moment Boeser looks wasted on the third line, however Virtanen has been doing really good on the first line and added a different dimension. It may not even work out well with Brock on the second in stead of LE, but it could be worth trying. 3rd and 4th line as shut down line... Gaudette has been wonderful, but in this early part of his career, he would be well off being supported by somebody, who is strong on the dot, and strong defensively. Regarding Miller... If his number were, as they are now/going to be at the end of this season, there is no way he is only $5m/season.... I'm not saying $10M but he is worth far more than $5M atm... In particular to this club as a mentor for a few of our players. His been nothing short of a revelation, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 9 hours ago, Alflives said: Hearing on TSN 1040 the Canucks could trade Bess for Dumbo. That would help out Huggy Bear, wouldn’t it? I think the Wild would have to add though, and so does the NHL executive the TSN guys are quoting. Huh? Are you pissing around with us Alf? Did you actually hear this? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Just now, spook007 said: We need two shut down line and hopefully two scoring lines. Hockey isn't won on the face off dot, but with the puck you don't get scored on neither, which I suppose is the primary plan of the shut down line. By putting Boeser on to the second line you hopefully get two scoring lines. At the moment Boeser looks wasted on the third line, however Virtanen has been doing really good on the first line and added a different dimension. It may not even work out well with Brock on the second in stead of LE, but it could be worth trying. 3rd and 4th line as shut down line... Gaudette has been wonderful, but in this early part of his career, he would be well off being supported by somebody, who is strong on the dot, and strong defensively. Regarding Miller... If his number were, as they are now/going to be at the end of this season, there is no way he is only $5m/season.... I'm not saying $10M but he is worth far more than $5M atm... In particular to this club as a mentor for a few of our players. His been nothing short of a revelation, Bess will be with Bo and Pearson when Furley comes back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossi Vaananen Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Just now, Kanukfanatic said: Huh? Are you pissing around with us Alf? Did you actually hear this? It's just some caller mucking around. My dad hit me up with a similar text on the 'potential trade'. Sillyness 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Just now, Kanukfanatic said: Huh? Are you pissing around with us Alf? Did you actually hear this? Yup. The morning guys were discussing this. They said the trade idea was floated by an NHL exec (not on either team) and he said the Canucks would say no to this trade, because Bess has more value than Dumba 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Just now, Ossi Vaananen said: It's just some caller mucking around. My dad hit me up with a similar text on the 'potential trade'. Sillyness Wasn’t a caller. It was the hosts who brought it up. They even supported their idea with comments from an NHL exec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Interesting idea about a Boeser for Dumba trade. Both are young and very good at their positions. The Canucks already have a high paid right D in Myers (I personally had hoped he would be a bit better but he has been ok - just what Jets fans said he was). We also have Tanev whom I want to keep because he is so solid defensively and with Hughes. We could move Stecher but Tryamkin could come back. If we got Dumba too that is simply too much tied up to right D. If the Canucks traded Boeser for Dumba I would want more. Minny would have to take a cap dump and give us a mid round pick. Something like To Minny: Boeser Stecher Schaller for Dumba 3rd rounder Still not sure I would do it. But that would improve our D for sure while weakening our young scoring forwards. Minny would barely even be able to handle that cap we ship them but they could waive schaller. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 5 hours ago, RowdyCanuck said: Trade Brock at 2020 draft after the playoffs and we can see if he's worth keeping or not.... wild might have a high pick ...be a great PR move fr the wild lol.... Would take more than a minny 2020 first rounder for Brock if u ask me. I'm not even listening if there isn't 2 1sts involved + another kicker Young stud sniper, has a lot going on in his world right now. He will be among the nhls elite for a long time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyCanuck Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, apollo said: Would take more than a minny 2020 first rounder for Brock if u ask me. I'm not even listening if there isn't 2 1sts involved + another kicker Young stud sniper, has a lot going on in his world right now. He will be among the nhls elite for a long time Yea I agree on the first not being enough , i just meant might be worth looking at the wilds first if it's a high one and Jim wanted another first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rob_Zepp Posted January 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 29, 2020 21 hours ago, oldnews said: weak sidestep. you didn't answer the question. would you be using EP's line - or Gaudette's for that matter - to take those dzone starts down the stretch, and kill those penalties? You expect a guy like Beagle to outshoot an opponent in that context? Against the top 6 of the Stanley Cup Champions? Please. You clearly don't understand the value of a player like Beagle - (or Malhotra for that matter). There's been over a decade of illustration. Great post. A lot of people forget that for 2/3 of any hockey game (plus or minus), you don't have your first line players out there and there a lot of minutes left to take care of responsibly. Beagle, as one of your examples, is an absolute beast and the nature of a player that will give you everything he can for every two points out there. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knucklehead91 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Boeser - 4th in points, 4th in goals, 9 points behind Pettersson, 5 points behind Miller who has been hot all year. Pettersson has 6 more PP points Miller has 3 more PP points Boeser is 1 goal behind Horvat 3 goals behind Miller 5 goals behind Pettersson all three of those players have 7 PPG, which is 2 more than Boeser. Seeing how Boeser is almost a PPG player and is “STRUGGLING” even though his even strength numbers are almost the same as everyone else above him. WHY WOULD YOU TRADE HIM IF HES STRUGGLING WITH THOSE STATS?!!?! Hes going to get on a roll eventually and start filling the net. Especially with the contract he is on. Its cheap and team friendly. Especially considering we retain his RFA status at the end. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 1 minute ago, knucklehead91 said: Boeser - 4th in points, 4th in goals, 9 points behind Pettersson, 5 points behind Miller who has been hot all year. Pettersson has 6 more PP points Miller has 3 more PP points Boeser is 1 goal behind Horvat 3 goals behind Miller 5 goals behind Pettersson all three of those players have 7 PPG, which is 2 more than Boeser. Seeing how Boeser is almost a PPG player and is “STRUGGLING” even though his even strength numbers are almost the same as everyone else above him. WHY WOULD YOU TRADE HIM IF HES STRUGGLING WITH THOSE STATS?!!?! Hes going to get on a roll eventually and start filling the net. Especially with the contract he is on. Its cheap and team friendly. Especially considering we retain his RFA status at the end. JB only trades Bess if he believes Bess is not part of our young core. Plus, the return would have to be a Seth Jones level D man of similar age. Hence the Paryako suggestion. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DeNiro Posted January 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 29, 2020 Stop making trade proposals involving Boeser... God you would think we had it so good the last 5 years. Are we that soon to forget how awful we’ve been over that span? Now we’re gonna trade one of our young stars who’s a character guy and a key piece to the team? Give your heads a shake. 5 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Kanukfanatic said: Interesting idea about a Boeser for Dumba trade. Both are young and very good at their positions. The Canucks already have a high paid right D in Myers (I personally had hoped he would be a bit better but he has been ok - just what Jets fans said he was). We also have Tanev whom I want to keep because he is so solid defensively and with Hughes. We could move Stecher but Tryamkin could come back. If we got Dumba too that is simply too much tied up to right D. If the Canucks traded Boeser for Dumba I would want more. Minny would have to take a cap dump and give us a mid round pick. Something like To Minny: Boeser Stecher Schaller for Dumba 3rd rounder Still not sure I would do it. But that would improve our D for sure while weakening our young scoring forwards. Minny would barely even be able to handle that cap we ship them but they could waive schaller. We have alot of prospects coming through the pipeline right now. I wouldn't be against it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Why is it when the team is doing well everyone wants to trade players and tinker? Some fans are addicted to drama..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 39 minutes ago, 73 Percent said: We have alot of prospects coming through the pipeline right now. I wouldn't be against it. Not for Dumba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Curse Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 young man far from home, in another country, no at able to go home all the time, father is sick and good die this year or next, or whenever, - that would impact anyone and the kid is still having an awesome year on a top line, facing top d pairs and shutdown forward lines night after night. Yes he is not unleashing rockets like his rookie year when ppl gave him tons of space and he was "lucky" but all players have down years perfect example: Ovie - one year he scores 65 goals in the year then 2 years later he only scores 32 goals in a year- holy crappers he regressed to half his goal total, that is still pretty awesome, but the point is performance is rarely absolutely consistent give the kid a break, I bet some nights he rather be watching hockey with his dad, totally normal. He's human after all also- no to Dumba. We need a big rugged shut down top pairing d man. We have Hughes as our main puck mover right now. soon we will drop louie and we can try Boess with Bo again... after all Boess broke into the league with Bo as his centre and they had chemistry too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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