Mackcanuck Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 I just noticed Holtby will be paid $5.7M for next season! $5.7M for a backup Goalie! (when 1 facepalm isn't enough) SEASON CLAUSE CAP HIT AAV P. BONUSES S. BONUSES BASE SALARY TOTAL SALARY MINORS SALARY 2020-21 M-NTC $4,300,000 $4,300,000 $0 $500,000 $2,400,000 $2,900,000 $2,900,000 2021-22 M-NTC $4,300,000 $4,300,000 $0 $0 $5,700,000 $5,700,000 $5,700,000 TOTAL $8,600,000 $8,600,000 $0 $500,000 $8,100,000 $8,600,000 $8,600,000 CLAUSE DETAILS: Player submits a 4 team no trade list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gurn Posted March 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, Mackcanuck said: I just noticed Holtby will be paid $5.7M for next season! $5.7M for a backup Goalie! (when 1 facepalm isn't enough) SEASON CLAUSE CAP HIT AAV P. BONUSES S. BONUSES BASE SALARY TOTAL SALARY MINORS SALARY 2020-21 M-NTC $4,300,000 $4,300,000 $0 $500,000 $2,400,000 $2,900,000 $2,900,000 2021-22 M-NTC $4,300,000 $4,300,000 $0 $0 $5,700,000 $5,700,000 $5,700,000 TOTAL $8,600,000 $8,600,000 $0 $500,000 $8,100,000 $8,600,000 $8,600,000 CLAUSE DETAILS: Player submits a 4 team no trade list. did you also notice that he is paid $2.9M this year? Then how when you add this years salary and next years salary, then divide by two, you get the cap hit of $4.3 per year for 2 years? 4 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 8 minutes ago, Mackcanuck said: I just noticed Holtby will be paid $5.7M for next season! $5.7M for a backup Goalie! (when 1 facepalm isn't enough) SEASON CLAUSE CAP HIT AAV P. BONUSES S. BONUSES BASE SALARY TOTAL SALARY MINORS SALARY 2020-21 M-NTC $4,300,000 $4,300,000 $0 $500,000 $2,400,000 $2,900,000 $2,900,000 2021-22 M-NTC $4,300,000 $4,300,000 $0 $0 $5,700,000 $5,700,000 $5,700,000 TOTAL $8,600,000 $8,600,000 $0 $500,000 $8,100,000 $8,600,000 $8,600,000 CLAUSE DETAILS: Player submits a 4 team no trade list. You also realize that that was done intentionally to make him less attractive in the ED, correct? Also doesn't hurt Benning's owner by keeping the actual cash low, in the midst of a pandemic... But dim Jim.. am I right? 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackcanuck Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, gurn said: did you also notice that he is paid $2.9M this year? Then how when you add this years salary and next years salary, then divide by two, you get the cap hit of $4.3 per year for 2 years? 8.6 divided by 2 = 4.3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, Mackcanuck said: 8.6 divided by 2 = 4.3 Excellent! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfgang Durst Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 13 minutes ago, Mackcanuck said: I just noticed Holtby will be paid $5.7M for next season! $5.7M for a backup Goalie! (when 1 facepalm isn't enough) SEASON CLAUSE CAP HIT AAV P. BONUSES S. BONUSES BASE SALARY TOTAL SALARY MINORS SALARY 2020-21 M-NTC $4,300,000 $4,300,000 $0 $500,000 $2,400,000 $2,900,000 $2,900,000 2021-22 M-NTC $4,300,000 $4,300,000 $0 $0 $5,700,000 $5,700,000 $5,700,000 TOTAL $8,600,000 $8,600,000 $0 $500,000 $8,100,000 $8,600,000 $8,600,000 CLAUSE DETAILS: Player submits a 4 team no trade list. 2019-2020: SV 0.897 2020-2021: SV 0.893 Jim signed a hell of a goalie, no doubt about it. Is Holtby overpaid? No, not in Jim's world. Many fans thought that Clarke can fix Holtby's game once the canucks announced this signing. Obviously he couldn't. Great signing, like lots of others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Wolfgang Durst said: Many fans thought that Clarke can fix Holtby's game once the canucks announced this signing. Obviously he couldn't. Bit early to say he couldn't fix Holtby. Minimal practice time, condensed schedule. Clarke didn't fix Markstrom in 26 team games, why expect insta cure with Holtby? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 59 minutes ago, gurn said: Bit early to say he couldn't fix Holtby. Minimal practice time, condensed schedule. Clarke didn't fix Markstrom in 26 team games, why expect insta cure with Holtby? Because in Canuck-land, 7 years is a long rebuild, 11 games with almost no practice time is a large sample size and enough time to completely revamp a vet goalies game etc, etc... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 2 hours ago, Mackcanuck said: I just noticed Holtby will be paid $5.7M for next season! $5.7M for a backup Goalie! (when 1 facepalm isn't enough) SEASON CLAUSE CAP HIT AAV P. BONUSES S. BONUSES BASE SALARY TOTAL SALARY MINORS SALARY 2020-21 M-NTC $4,300,000 $4,300,000 $0 $500,000 $2,400,000 $2,900,000 $2,900,000 2021-22 M-NTC $4,300,000 $4,300,000 $0 $0 $5,700,000 $5,700,000 $5,700,000 TOTAL $8,600,000 $8,600,000 $0 $500,000 $8,100,000 $8,600,000 $8,600,000 CLAUSE DETAILS: Player submits a 4 team no trade list. He can be bought out this summer with a cap hit of only $500,000 for 2021. And Benning can go find a backup for $800k to sign for the expansion draft. But thanks for your extensive research... Braden Holtby Buyout Details Cost Calculations BUYOUT DATE BASE SALARY REMAINING S.BONUS REMAINING YEARS REMAINING BUYOUT LENGTH AGE BUYOUT RATIO TOTAL COST TOTAL SAVINGS ANNUAL COST Jun 15, 2021 $5,700,000 $0 1 2 31 2/3 $3,800,000 $1,900,000 $1,900,000 Cap Hit Calculations SEASON INITIAL BASE SALARY INITIAL CAP HIT SIGNING BONUS BUYOUT COST POST-BUYOUT EARNINGS SAVINGS CAP HIT (VAN) 2021-22 $5,700,000 $4,300,000 $0 $1,900,000 $1,900,000 $3,800,000 $500,000 2022-23 $0 $0 $0 $1,900,000 $1,900,000 -$1,900,000 $1,900,000 TOTAL $5,700,000 $4,300,000 $0 $3,800,000 $3,800,000 $1,900,000 $2,400,000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackcanuck Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 2 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: But thanks for your extensive research... Thanks for your response I had no idea how complicated contract buyouts were Maybe Cap friendly isn't so friendly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK_19 Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 5 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: He can be bought out this summer with a cap hit of only $500,000 for 2021. And Benning can go find a backup for $800k to sign for the expansion draft. But thanks for your extensive research... Braden Holtby Buyout Details Cost Calculations BUYOUT DATE BASE SALARY REMAINING S.BONUS REMAINING YEARS REMAINING BUYOUT LENGTH AGE BUYOUT RATIO TOTAL COST TOTAL SAVINGS ANNUAL COST Jun 15, 2021 $5,700,000 $0 1 2 31 2/3 $3,800,000 $1,900,000 $1,900,000 Cap Hit Calculations SEASON INITIAL BASE SALARY INITIAL CAP HIT SIGNING BONUS BUYOUT COST POST-BUYOUT EARNINGS SAVINGS CAP HIT (VAN) 2021-22 $5,700,000 $4,300,000 $0 $1,900,000 $1,900,000 $3,800,000 $500,000 2022-23 $0 $0 $0 $1,900,000 $1,900,000 -$1,900,000 $1,900,000 TOTAL $5,700,000 $4,300,000 $0 $3,800,000 $3,800,000 $1,900,000 $2,400,000 I don't understand how the buyout is so low but that does make me feel better about the contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toyotasfan Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 https://bc.ctvnews.ca/mobile/indigenous-artist-designs-another-mask-for-goalie-after-vancouver-canucks-controversy-1.5343311 another new mask for Holtby. almost as nice as the Swedish designed one he couldn’t use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Law of Goalies Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 On 3/5/2021 at 2:26 AM, Wolfgang Durst said: 2019-2020: SV 0.897 2020-2021: SV 0.893 Jim signed a hell of a goalie, no doubt about it. Is Holtby overpaid? No, not in Jim's world. Many fans thought that Clarke can fix Holtby's game once the canucks announced this signing. Obviously he couldn't. Great signing, like lots of others. Lol, typical Canucks fan, sigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 Holtby was never going to be a good goalie for us, it was a recipe for disaster. 2-3 seasons off some decent hockey, he was sheltered in Washington and even then was pretty average the last 2 years. Now he's older, coming into a team which leaks A-grade chances, it was never going to be pretty. JB probably knew this too, we could have signed a better goaltender, sure. He's gotten Holtby in for 2 reasons: 1) Expansion draft eligible (and hopefully picked as a 3rd goalie is a juicy MAF-like target). 2) Cup winner, playoff warrior, he can mentor Demko better than anyone about how to play long regular seasons and perform in the playoffs We can see on-ice how bad he is and how bad is value is, but we won't know of how important he'll have been to Demko's development until the next deep Demko playoff run. Demko had Marky to mentor him up until now and is not ready to be mentor-free just yet, but he's looking like he's turning that corner this season. Even if we have Holtby next season, he'll provide a useful mentor to sit on the bench and help Demko out in tough situations. Is that worth the money he's getting paid? Absolutely. Is it worth his cap hit? That's a tricky one but I think yes - he's an investment for Demko's on-ice performance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 I'm not sure if this'll continue, but this Holtby was one we've rarely seen this year (maybe once or twice so far). What a great game from him to inspire our boys. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloubek Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 5 hours ago, -AJ- said: I'm not sure if this'll continue, but this Holtby was one we've rarely seen this year (maybe once or twice so far). What a great game from him to inspire our boys. He gave us a great game when we needed it most. It will likely be our fondest memory of him in a Canuck uniform. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackcanuck Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Not much more to say Outstanding!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Holtbeast last night. I still hope seattle takes him haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 6 hours ago, Mackcanuck said: Not much more to say Outstanding!!! The more I look at it, the more I love it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harvey Specter Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 12 hours ago, kloubek said: He gave us a great game when we needed it most. It will likely be our fondest memory of him in a Canuck uniform. Kudos to Hotlby for pulling out a HoltBeast performance for us. It has been a rollercoaster ride with him in our crease (and I am a big Holtby fan since his Hershey Bears days) but he stood tall last night. This game evoke shades of the Ryan Miller vs the World (Toronto) game back in 2016 when he defended Richmond's own "Tony Stretcher!", taking matters into his own hands. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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