Coronavirus outbreak

[bishopshodan]

Just now, JM_ said:

just looking at the vaccination rates - pretty low: https://covid19.who.int/region/afro/country/za

 

not surprising a new variant is having a field day

Yeah I saw that.

 

Think the question is about the severity.

It does seem more transmittable. 

 

 

[higgyfan]

On 12/1/2021 at 4:38 PM, JM_ said:

in this case he's still a kid essentially so he still gets my sympathy. Its his ass hat parents or whoever is teaching him to think this way that I'm annoyed with.

Not really...he's 26yrs.  I know several people that have adult children in that age range.  They are all double vaxed, but not so much their kids.  Not being vaccinated is certainly not being pushing by the parent.

[Guest]

Covid is here to stay, we're not getting rid of it any time soon.  

 

On an anecdote closer to home, my dad has been diagnosed with cancer and he's now going through a really tough time.  

He's 80 and he has spent the last two years seeing all his friends and acquaintances vanishing one by one because of Covid.  Not because they died, but because we all think we're doing the right thing by just isolating and staying at home infinitely.  Yes, places and activities have reopened on paper, but in reality they have not. 

 

We are living in a &^@#ed up world that's not sustainable long term.  The only people that don't realize this are the ones that had social complications to begin with. 

 

 

 

[stawns]

9 hours ago, VancouverHabitant said:

Covid is here to stay, we're not getting rid of it any time soon.  

 

On an anecdote closer to home, my dad has been diagnosed with cancer and he's now going through a really tough time.  

He's 80 and he has spent the last two years seeing all his friends and acquaintances vanishing one by one because of Covid.  Not because they died, but because we all think we're doing the right thing by just isolating and staying at home infinitely.  Yes, places and activities have reopened on paper, but in reality they have not. 

 

We are living in a &^@#ed up world that's not sustainable long term.  The only people that don't realize this are the ones that had social complications to begin with. 

 

 

 

Well, the virus doesn't care much about that

[bishopshodan]

WHO says omicron Covid variant detected in 38 countries, early data suggests it’s more contagious than delta

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/03/who-says-omicron-covid-variant-has-spread-to-38-countries.html

 

The World Health Organization on Friday said the omicron Covid-19 variant has been detected in 38 countries, up from 23 two days ago, with early data suggesting the strain is more contagious than delta.

[JM_]

13 hours ago, higgyfan said:

Not really...he's 26yrs.  I know several people that have adult children in that age range.  They are all double vaxed, but not so much their kids.  Not being vaccinated is certainly not being pushing by the parent.

I'm assuming he was raised like this. Dunno, just very tired of all of this.

[RUPERTKBD]

1 hour ago, JM_ said:

I'm assuming he was raised like this. Dunno, just very tired of all of this.

Hmmmm....hard to imagine a cosmopolitan city like Sudbury raising their kids to be anti-science and conspiratorial....

[JM_]

4 hours ago, RUPERTKBD said:

Hmmmm....hard to imagine a cosmopolitan city like Sudbury raising their kids to be anti-science and conspiratorial....

I remember going through there once... I see your point.

[-Vintage Canuck-]

B.C. COVID-19 pandemic update:

 

As of Friday, Dec. 3, 2021, 85.1% (4,240,459) of eligible people five and older in B.C. have received their first dose of COVID-19 vaccine and 81.8% (4,079,299) have received their second dose.

 

In addition, 91.2% (4,229,649) of eligible people 12 and older have received their first dose of COVID-19 vaccine, 88% (4,079,277) received their second dose and 10% (469,176) have received a third dose.

 

Also, 91.6% (3,963,783) of all eligible adults in B.C. have received their first dose, 88.5% (3,829,103) received their second dose and 11% (468,509) have received a third dose.

 

B.C. is reporting 405 new cases of COVID-19, including five new epi-linked cases, for a total of 219,584 cases in the province.

 

There are currently 3,071 active cases of COVID-19 in the province, and 214,047 people who tested positive have recovered. Of the active cases, 276 individuals are currently in hospital and 95 are in intensive care. The remaining people are recovering at home in self-isolation.

 

The new/active cases include:

• 110 new cases in Fraser Health
  • total active cases: 990
• 45 new cases in Vancouver Coastal Health
  • total active cases: 498
• 97 new cases in Interior Health
  • total active cases: 585
• 57 new cases in Northern Health
  • total active cases: 351
• 96 new cases in Island Health
  • total active cases: 646
• no new cases of people who reside outside of Canada
  • total active cases: one

In the past 24 hours, six new deaths have been reported, for an overall total of 2,351.

 

The new deaths include:

• Fraser Health: three
• Island Health: two
• Vancouver Coastal Health: one

There is one new health-care facility outbreak at Ponderosa Lodge (Interior Health). The outbreak at Peace Villa (Northern Health) has been declared over, for a total of five facilities with ongoing outbreaks, including:

 

long-term care:

• George Derby Centre (Fraser Health); and
• Ponderosa Lodge (Interior Health)

acute care:

• Ridge Meadows Hospital (Fraser Health); and
• St. Paul's Hospital (Vancouver Coastal Health)

assisted or independent living:

• Laurier Manor (Northern Health)

From Nov. 25 to Dec. 1, people not fully vaccinated accounted for 58% of cases and from Nov. 18 to Dec. 1, they accounted for 65.9% of hospitalizations.

 

Past week cases (Nov. 25 to Dec. 1) – Total 2,411

• Not vaccinated: 1,303 (54%)
• Partially vaccinated: 96 (4%)
• Fully vaccinated: 1,012 (42%)

Past two weeks cases hospitalized (Nov. 18 to Dec. 1) – Total 246

• Not vaccinated: 151 (61.4%)
• Partially vaccinated: 11 (4.5%)
• Fully vaccinated: 84 (34.1%)

Past week, cases per 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Nov. 25 to Dec. 1)    

• Not vaccinated: 176.3
• Partially vaccinated: 44.0
• Fully vaccinated: 22.6

Past two weeks, cases hospitalized per 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Nov. 18 to Dec. 1)

• Not vaccinated: 32.6
• Partially vaccinated: 7.8
• Fully vaccinated: 1.8

Since December 2020, the Province has administered 8,761,618 doses of Pfizer-BioNTech, Moderna, AstraZeneca and Pfizer Pediatric COVID-19 vaccines.

 

https://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/2021HLTH0075-002325

[JM_]

The idea came up in a different thread that "no one" cared about the regular flu shot. I'll just leave this here, as I suspect mandatory vaccination will continue to be a policy choice going forward for flu and covid shots.

 

--

 

Vaccinate-or-mask policies for influenza vaccination in health care organizations result in substantial increases in the vaccination rates among health care workers, are supported by most health care workers and, based on decisions to date, are likely to be found to be in compliance with Canadian law. Although vaccination-required policies have been upheld by arbitrators, employers who opt for more intrusive policies should carefully consider whether the details of such a policy maximize patient safety while impairing the charter rights of health care workers as little as possible. Physicians and employers should work together to find the best means to improve vaccination rates and protect both patients and providers from influenza.

Key points

• Most North American health care workers who have responded to recent surveys are in favour of condition-of-service influenza vaccination policies.

• In most Canadian legal cases, arbitrators have weighed the individual rights of employees against the consequences of nonimmunization on patients and have decided in favour of patient safety.

• To comply with the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, employers will need to carefully consider the details of any condition-of-service policy.

https://www.cmaj.ca/content/186/14/1076

[thedestroyerofworlds]

Findings are that if you are hospitalized with Covid, a little over 1 in 100 patients are going to have a brain problem of some sort.  

 

https://press.rsna.org/timssnet/media/pressreleases/14_pr_target.cfm?ID=2303

 

Large International Study Reveals Spectrum of COVID-19 Brain Complications

[Hamhuis Hip Check]

25 minutes ago, thedestroyerofworlds said:

Findings are that if you are hospitalized with Covid, a little over 1 in 100 patients are going to have a brain problem of some sort.  

 

https://press.rsna.org/timssnet/media/pressreleases/14_pr_target.cfm?ID=2303

 

Large International Study Reveals Spectrum of COVID-19 Brain Complications

Did they take into account how many people who got covid that already had brain damage?

[4petesake]

13 minutes ago, Hamhuis Hip Check said:

Did they take into account how many people who got covid that already had brain damage?

Probably not but I’ll bet that the number is skyrocketing  now!

[Russ]

On 12/3/2021 at 7:47 AM, bishopshodan said:

WHO says omicron Covid variant detected in 38 countries, early data suggests it’s more contagious than delta

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/03/who-says-omicron-covid-variant-has-spread-to-38-countries.html

 

The World Health Organization on Friday said the omicron Covid-19 variant has been detected in 38 countries, up from 23 two days ago, with early data suggesting the strain is more contagious than delta.

Unless its changed everything I read earlier in the week say its more contagious but less lethal.  Sounded like at the time it was minor symptoms which were a cough and sneezes but at the time there were no hospitalizions with this strain.  If so sounds like its getting closer to the regular seasonal flu unless something changes.

[FaninMex]

34 minutes ago, Russ said:

Unless its changed everything I read earlier in the week say its more contagious but less lethal.  Sounded like at the time it was minor symptoms which were a cough and sneezes but at the time there were no hospitalizions with this strain.  If so sounds like its getting closer to the regular seasonal flu unless something changes.

WHO said all first cases are mild at first. They were also reporting that the first cases were in people between 20-30 which tend to be mild. So, it is still wait and see.

[Warhippy]

Science

 

[Hamhuis Hip Check]

7 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

Science

 

Please god let this go viral in the anti vax community. 

[nuckin_futz]

Italian man tries to dodge Covid jab using fake arm

An Italian man who wanted a Covid vaccination certificate without getting the jab turned up for his vaccine with a fake arm, officials say.

 

The man, in his 50s, arrived for his shot with a silicone mould covering his real arm, hoping it would go unnoticed.

 

But a nurse was not fooled and the man has now been reported to the police.

 

The nurse told local media that when she had rolled up his sleeve, she found the skin "rubbery and cold" and the pigment "too light".

 

After being discovered, the man tried to persuade the nurse to turn a blind eye, la Repubblica reported. But instead she reported him to the police for fraud.

Local police are now investigating the incident in Biella, north-west Italy, and local officials have criticised the man's actions.

 

"The case borders on the ridiculous, if it were not for the fact we are talking about a gesture of enormous gravity," the head of the Piedmont regional government, Albert Cirio, said in a statement on Facebook.

 

He said the ploy was "unacceptable faced with the sacrifice that our entire community has paid during the pandemic, in terms of human lives, the social and economic cost".

 

The man was reportedly a health worker who had been suspended from his job because he had not been vaccinated. The jab is mandatory for all health workers in Italy.

 

La Repubblica suggests the incident may not have been a one-off, pointing to a message on social media that may have been written by the man.

The Twitter post quoted by the paper featured a silicone male chest half-body suit, complete with fake arms and neck, that was on sale on Amazon for €488 (£416).

 

"If I go with this, will they notice? Maybe beneath the silicone I'll even put on some extra clothes to avoid the needle reaching my real arm," the Twitter user reportedly wrote.

 

The incident comes ahead of a tightening of the rules in Italy for those who have not been vaccinated.

 

Since August, Italians have needed a Covid "green pass" - showing proof of vaccination, a negative test or recovery from the virus - to access train stations, cinemas, restaurants, gyms and swimming pools.

 

But from Monday, these activities will be restricted to those with a "super green pass", which is only available to those who have been vaccinated or recently recovered from Covid.

Edited December 4, 2021 by nuckin_futz

[Russ]

2 hours ago, Hamhuis Hip Check said:

Please god let this go viral in the anti vax community. 

I need to see some TikToks of people doing this!

[Alflives]

This new variant sure appears to be lethal to the antivaxxers, but mild to those who are vaccinated.  Oh well.  “FREEDUMB”. 

Edited December 5, 2021 by Alflives