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2 hours ago, RUPERTKBD said:

I would, but I don't have any neighbors in South Africa....

This didn't emerge in South Africa, it was just detected first there because they're good at sequencing. Alarmist BS calling it some super variant ignoring the reality of the situation, SA had almost no cases so it's not 'out competing' anything. It might be worse than delta, it could be another mu where the media gets everyone in a frenzy and it turns out to be nothing.

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B.C. COVID-19 pandemic update:

 

As of Friday, Nov. 26, 2021, 91.0% (4,219,790) of eligible people 12 and older in B.C. have received their first dose of COVID-19 vaccine and 87.6% (4,060,193) have received their second dose.

 

In addition, 91.4% (3,954,871) of all eligible adults in B.C. have received their first dose and 88.1% (3,812,040) have received their second dose.

 

B.C. is reporting 341 new cases of COVID-19, including four epi-linked cases, for a total of 217,099 cases in the province.

 

There are 3,035 active cases of COVID-19 in the province, and 211,577 people who tested positive have recovered. Of the active cases, 291 individuals are in hospital and 115 are in intensive care. The remaining people are recovering at home in self-isolation.

 

The new/active cases include:

  • 100 new cases in Fraser Health
    • Total active cases: 1,071
  • 65 new cases in Vancouver Coastal Health
    • Total active cases: 536
  • 77 new cases in Interior Health
    • Total active cases: 593
  • 31 new cases in Northern Health
    • Total active cases: 381
  • 68 new cases in Island Health
    • Total active cases: 448
  • no new cases of people who reside outside of Canada
    • Total active cases: six

In the past 24 hours, six new deaths have been reported, for an overall total of 2,322.

 

The new deaths include:

  • Fraser Health: three
  • Vancouver Coastal Health: two
  • Northern Health: one

There have been no new health-care facility outbreaks. The outbreaks at Queens Park Care Centre and Dufferin Care Centre have been declared over, for a total of eight facilities with ongoing outbreaks, including:

 

long-term care:

  • Tabor Home, Maplewood House, George Derby Centre (Fraser Health); and
  • Peace Villa (Northern Health)

acute care:

  • Abbotsford Regional Hospital, Ridge Meadows Hospital (Fraser Health); and
  • St. Paul's Hospital (Vancouver Coastal Health)

assisted or independent living:

  • Laurier Manor (Northern Health)

From Nov. 18-24, people not fully vaccinated accounted for 59.2% of cases.


From Nov. 11-24, they accounted for 68.4% of hospitalizations.

 

Past week cases (Nov. 18-24) – Total 2,612

  • Not vaccinated: 1,461 (55.9%)
  • Partially vaccinated: 87 (3.3%)
  • Fully vaccinated: 1,064 (40.7%)

Past two weeks cases hospitalized (Nov. 11-24) – Total 294

  • Not vaccinated: 182 (61.9%)
  • Partially vaccinated: 19 (6.5%)
  • Fully vaccinated: 93 (31.6%)

Past week, cases per 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Nov. 18-24)    

  • Not vaccinated: 195.9
  • Partially vaccinated: 39.0
  • Fully vaccinated: 23.9

Past two weeks, cases hospitalized per 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Nov. 11-24)

  • Not vaccinated: 38.3
  • Partially vaccinated: 11.9
  • Fully vaccinated: 2.0

Since December 2020, the Province has administered 8,630,478 doses of Pfizer-BioNTech, Moderna and AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccines.

 

https://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/2021HLTH0075-002273

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2 hours ago, Kurgom said:

This didn't emerge in South Africa, it was just detected first there because they're good at sequencing. Alarmist BS calling it some super variant ignoring the reality of the situation, SA had almost no cases so it's not 'out competing' anything. It might be worse than delta, it could be another mu where the media gets everyone in a frenzy and it turns out to be nothing.

A fair point K, but you shouldn't take this so literally. It was a sarcastic response to a snide comment....

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24 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said:

A fair point K, but you shouldn't take this so literally. It was a sarcastic response to a snide comment....

Sorry if I seemed aggressive, more of a general response to the hysteria around variants. 

 

Also SA has enough bad news about them, it would be much if people (not you specifically) realized they were the first ones to find it, not that it mutated in SA with certainty. 

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58 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said:

B.C. COVID-19 pandemic update:

 

As of Friday, Nov. 26, 2021, 91.0% (4,219,790) of eligible people 12 and older in B.C. have received their first dose of COVID-19 vaccine and 87.6% (4,060,193) have received their second dose.

 

In addition, 91.4% (3,954,871) of all eligible adults in B.C. have received their first dose and 88.1% (3,812,040) have received their second dose.

 

B.C. is reporting 341 new cases of COVID-19, including four epi-linked cases, for a total of 217,099 cases in the province.

 

There are 3,035 active cases of COVID-19 in the province, and 211,577 people who tested positive have recovered. Of the active cases, 291 individuals are in hospital and 115 are in intensive care. The remaining people are recovering at home in self-isolation.

 

The new/active cases include:

  • 100 new cases in Fraser Health
    • Total active cases: 1,071
  • 65 new cases in Vancouver Coastal Health
    • Total active cases: 536
  • 77 new cases in Interior Health
    • Total active cases: 593
  • 31 new cases in Northern Health
    • Total active cases: 381
  • 68 new cases in Island Health
    • Total active cases: 448
  • no new cases of people who reside outside of Canada
    • Total active cases: six

In the past 24 hours, six new deaths have been reported, for an overall total of 2,322.

 

The new deaths include:

  • Fraser Health: three
  • Vancouver Coastal Health: two
  • Northern Health: one

There have been no new health-care facility outbreaks. The outbreaks at Queens Park Care Centre and Dufferin Care Centre have been declared over, for a total of eight facilities with ongoing outbreaks, including:

 

long-term care:

  • Tabor Home, Maplewood House, George Derby Centre (Fraser Health); and
  • Peace Villa (Northern Health)

acute care:

  • Abbotsford Regional Hospital, Ridge Meadows Hospital (Fraser Health); and
  • St. Paul's Hospital (Vancouver Coastal Health)

assisted or independent living:

  • Laurier Manor (Northern Health)

From Nov. 18-24, people not fully vaccinated accounted for 59.2% of cases.


From Nov. 11-24, they accounted for 68.4% of hospitalizations.

 

Past week cases (Nov. 18-24) – Total 2,612

  • Not vaccinated: 1,461 (55.9%)
  • Partially vaccinated: 87 (3.3%)
  • Fully vaccinated: 1,064 (40.7%)

Past two weeks cases hospitalized (Nov. 11-24) – Total 294

  • Not vaccinated: 182 (61.9%)
  • Partially vaccinated: 19 (6.5%)
  • Fully vaccinated: 93 (31.6%)

Past week, cases per 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Nov. 18-24)    

  • Not vaccinated: 195.9
  • Partially vaccinated: 39.0
  • Fully vaccinated: 23.9

Past two weeks, cases hospitalized per 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Nov. 11-24)

  • Not vaccinated: 38.3
  • Partially vaccinated: 11.9
  • Fully vaccinated: 2.0

Since December 2020, the Province has administered 8,630,478 doses of Pfizer-BioNTech, Moderna and AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccines.

 

https://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/2021HLTH0075-002273

50-2.  WY to go antivaxxers.  You continue to dominate the hospitalizations.  “Winning”. 

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7 hours ago, Kurgom said:

This didn't emerge in South Africa, it was just detected first there because they're good at sequencing. Alarmist BS calling it some super variant ignoring the reality of the situation, SA had almost no cases so it's not 'out competing' anything. It might be worse than delta, it could be another mu where the media gets everyone in a frenzy and it turns out to be nothing.

Yeah, still remains to be determined what this variant means.   

 

A lot of variants were present before any vaccines were available. Mother nature is great at doing experiments. 

 

Masks work on every variant.  Maintain the same public health principles.

 

Immunity also includes T cells, and they are much more resistant to variants.  This is often not examined. 

 

For those interested, the Rockefeller University virologists made a polymutant spike in the lab (20 mutations), and found that serum from recovered patients who then got vaccinated were still able to neutralize the virus. 

 

Here is the paper. 

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-04005-0

 

Here is the discussion on TWiV with the authors. 

 

 

Collection of tweets from various scientists here.  I'm not a big fan of Gottlieb but the links he provided here on this thread may be useful:

 

 

 

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9 minutes ago, Jaimito said:

Yeah, still remains to be determined what this variant means.   

 

A lot of variants were present before any vaccines were available. Mother nature is great at doing experiments. 

 

Masks work on every variant.  Maintain the same public health principles.

 

Immunity also includes T cells, and they are much more resistant to variants.  This is often not examined. 

 

For those interested, the Rockefeller University virologists made a polymutant spike in the lab (20 mutations), and found that serum from recovered patients who then got vaccinated were still able to neutralize the virus. 

 

Here is the paper. 

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-04005-0

 

Here is the discussion on TWiV with the authors. 

 

 

Collection of tweets from various scientists here.  I'm not a big fan of Gottlieb but the links he provided here on this thread may be useful:

 

 

 

How DO we spell CRAPEROLLA?  Lots of media today should just say they are not true news, but rather just paparazz.  Is there any true news anymore?  Get rid of your TVs posyes.  It’s all lies. 

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Germany confirms third case of Omicron variant

From CNN’s Fred Pleitgen and Martin Goillandeau

A third case of the Omicron Covid-19 variant has been detected in Germany.

The latest case was detected in the central German state of Hesse. The previous two were detected in Munich, Bavaria.

"The sequencing has confirmed the result — the suspected case announced yesterday morning is the Omicron variant," Hesse's Minister of State for Social Affairs and Integration Kai Klose tweeted.

The Hessian Ministry for Social Affairs and Integration said in a statement the patient entered Germany via Frankfurt Airport from South Africa on Nov. 21.

“The person is fully vaccinated. She had developed symptoms over the week and then had a test. Then she was isolated at home, ” Klose said in the statement.

The Health Ministry told CNN on the phone the passenger developed symptoms a few days after she landed in Germany.

https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/new-covid-variant-south-africa-11-28-21/index.html

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https://www.msn.com/en-ca/health/medical/a-lung-doctor-broke-down-the-omicron-variant-in-5-minutes/ar-AARdT5M?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531

 

"The B.11.529 variant of the coronavirus first identified in South Africa, also known as the Omicron variant, has been described as a "variant of concern" by the World Health Organization. In a new video on his YouTube channel, pulmonary medicine and critical care specialist Dr. Mike Hansen summarizes how this strain of Covid differs from previous versions, and the risk it poses to public health.

 

The Omicron variant of the virus has more than 30 mutations in its spike protein, which Hansen explains could make it more contagious, could cause more severe infection in patients, and could be resistant to vaccines. None of this has been determined yet, however. There were similar concerns surrounding the Delta variant, against which the vaccines proved effective.

"We've seen a lot of variants pop up over the last eight months or so, and most of them, for example Lambda, have not amounted to much," says Hansen. "And they're detected because scientists are constantly running surveillance on Covid. But here we are with a new one, and it has a special level of concern, not only because it has more mutations in the spike protein, but also because some of those mutations are the same mutations as the other four variants of concern."

He adds that we won't know how the variant interacts with vaccines until a few weeks have passed. So far, however, studies indicate that Omicron is much faster-spreading than the Delta variant, and carries a higher risk of reinfection.

"If Omicron does render our vaccines useless, that would basically mean we would be experiencing a whole new pandemic again, a whole other 2020, unless these vaccines are quickly tweaked for the new variant," he says. "That's why you have these vaccine makers jumping on this right now."

 

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The thing from this story that jumps out is the vaccination rates:

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/new-virus-variant-casts-pall-shocks-experts-in-south-africa/ar-AARe4gz?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531

PRETORIA, South Africa (AP) — The overcast, drizzly skies match the somber mood at the Tshwane University of Technology, a hot spot in South Africa’s latest surge of COVID-19 cases, apparently driven by the new omicron variant that is leading countries around the world to impose new restrictions.

 

After several students tested positive, the university postponed some exams, and officials in the larger metropolitan area of Tshwane, which includes the capital of Pretoria, are pushing vaccinations, especially among younger adults who have been slow to get the shots.

 

At TUT, as the university is known, few students wanted to speak about the new variant that has cast a pall. Many were not vaccinated — only 22% of 18- to 34-year-olds in South Africa are — and some seemed to be rethinking that, though notably the university's vaccination center was closed for the weekend.

Manqoba Zitha, a student who has gotten the shot, said he will be pushing fellow classmates to do the same.

“I’m trying to encourage them so that they can vaccinate, so they can stay away from coronavirus because it’s there, it’s killing people, and now numbers are rising,” said Zitha. “Now when we are watching TV we can see that people are getting coronavirus. So they must vaccinate!”

Nearly two years into the pandemic, the world is racing to contain the latest variant, first identified in southern Africa but popping up around the globe. Countries are imposing restrictions or bans on travelers from several countries — much to the South African government's dismay — and re-imposing measures like mask mandates that some hoped were a thing of the past.

The World Health Organization named the new version of the virus “omicron” and classified it as a highly transmissible variant of concern, though its actual risks are not yet understood. Early evidence suggests it poses an increased risk that people who have already had COVID-19 could catch it again, the WHO said. It could take weeks to know if current vaccines are less effective against it.

Still, some experts are hopeful that vaccines will be at least somewhat effective at preventing serious illness and death — and continue to encourage people to get inoculated.

Gauteng province — home to Pretoria and South Africa's largest city of Johannesburg — is the center of the new surge. So far, cases there appear to be mild, according to doctors, and hospital admissions have not spiked.

But experts warn the early round of infections has been among the young and the situation may become more serious if the new surge affects older, unvaccinated South Africans. In all, 41% of those aged 18 and over are vaccinated — but young people have been particularly slow to step forward.

At least three South African universities — the University of Cape Town, Johannesburg’s University of the Witwatersrand and the University of Free State in Bloemfontein — have announced that vaccinations will be mandatory for students starting next year. Some experts think further measures will be needed.

“I do think that the decision that South Africa is going to have to make is probably around mandatory vaccination,” said Mosa Moshabela, professor of public health at the University of KwaZulu-Natal in Durban.

Demand for the vaccine has been so sluggish that the government recently requested slower deliveries to allow it time to use up its current stock of 19 million doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech and Johnson & Johnson shots.

A new surge was long anticipated and even a new variant, but the speed with which omicron hit came as a “shock” to South Africa’s health experts.

While numbers of confirmed cases are still relatively low, they have been increasing at a high rate. The new spike started after some student parties in Pretoria. Numbers quickly jumped from a few hundred cases a day to thousands. South Africa announced 3,220 new cases Saturday, of which 82% are in Gauteng, according to the National Institute for Communicable Diseases. That's still well below the peak of the last wave, when more than 25,000 were confirmed in a day.

As many as 90% of the new cases in Gauteng province are caused by omicron, Tulio de Oliveira, director of the KwaZulu-Natal Research Innovation and Sequencing Platform, said in a tweet, citing the results of diagnostic tests.

“We did expect that we may see a new or a different variant gaining momentum in the fourth wave ... but we did not really expect to see a variant with the kind of multiplicity of mutations. And that is capable of becoming highly transmissible and escape or evade immunity at the same time,” said Moshabela, the expert from the University of KwaZulu-Natal. “This was really the shock that we had.”

Although the current cases are concentrated in Pretoria and Johannesburg, tests show that omicron is already in all of South Africa's nine provinces.

South African President Cyril Ramaphosa met over the weekend with health officials and is scheduled to address the nation on Sunday night about the increased cases.

Back at TUT, Nhlanhla Africa Maphosa, a 25-year-old management student, is still trying to digest the news and what it will mean for his studies.

“It was just last week when they checked stats then they realize that so many students were affected by COVID-19 at the main campus,” Maphosa said. “We’re not that sure of the stats. ... But what we can say is that a high level or a high percentage of students has got COVID-19.”

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Follow AP’s coverage of the coronavirus pandemic at https://apnews.com/hub/coronavirus-pandemic

 

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"In all, 41% of those aged 18 and over are vaccinated — but young people have been particularly slow to step forward."

 

"Many were not vaccinated — only 22% of 18- to 34-year-olds in South Africa are"

 

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