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14 hours ago, coastal.view said:

i think the idea of testing is a bit misunderstood

it is not necessary that everyone be tested

the testing happens relating to tracing activities

and hospital admissions (so they are certain what they will be treating)

 

the outcome for having symptoms is always the same

if you are unwell and have any symptoms

stay home for 14 days

this does not change with testing (or testing results)

 

it's not really presently an issue of test shortages

though being prudent on how tests are used is wise as more could be required later

there is a cost for each test, there is an additional cost to process each test to get results

so there are financial reasons as well to target testing

 

there is also a health risk for administering each test

a health official does the testing

it almost always results in a cough during testing

that creates a health risk to that person

and also requires a change of protective equipment for each test

so there is health risks and health equipment issues as well

 

not trying to be picky here

but testing is not really fully understood

this issue has been explained many times by dr. henry in her updates

but it warrants repeating

I don't think you're being "picky" at all, coastal....

 

.....this is something that has come up several times and I think it's good that you give people some answers to their questions. I admit that I haven't been following Dr Bonnie's updates, but the reasoning behind not testing everyone seemed pretty obvious to me. I just couldn't be bothered wading into that particular discussion and TBH, I didn't know that she had made the points you cite...

 

Thanks for taking the time.

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12 hours ago, NewbieCanuckFan said:

Weird....

 

I just got a Fedex package from Russia.  Food!   Looks like some kind of sandwich.  There's some writing in Cyrillic on the wrapper "Ivan's finest polonium meat sandwiches".  mmmmm...smells real good but I ate dinner already!  I think I'll give it to my buddy Alf!

Those are good eating! They'll definitely curie what ails ya....

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16 hours ago, King Heffy said:

Risky play but Tump's suggestions can, and should, be considered crimes against humanity.  The responsible thing to do is to remove Trump from office by any means necessary before more innocent people die due to his disregard for human life.  Forget locking him up, that evil piece of garbage needs to be swinging from the gallows.

I don't disagree that he's an idiot. My worry is by the US gov't showing discord like this, at a time like this, people will just be encouraged to do stupid things. Its good to point out where things can be done better but when she's talking about more investigations at a time like this it looks like she cares more about removing Trump than fighting the virus. 

 

 

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16 hours ago, Down by the River said:

I wish that for the sake of lives you'd get democrats, CNN, MSNBC praising Trump for "constantly following the advice of experts"... maybe he is just narcissistic enough to love the praise that he'd actually do what's actually right. 

I think the promising element is the fact that his popularity went up, right after he finally admitted to the severity of the situation. Nothing is more important to president Dotard than how popular he is, so we can hope that he continues to do the right thing....even if it is for the wrong reasons....

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4 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said:

I think the promising element is the fact that his popularity went up, right after he finally admitted to the severity of the situation. Nothing is more important to president Dotard than how popular he is, so we can hope that he continues to do the right thing....even if it is for the wrong reasons....

 

here's a great example of how Trump gets in his own way. I'll just leave the link here since its a long story to reprint but for some reason he started attacking GM and Ventec who are working closely and incredibly fast on scaling up ventilator production. For some reason, Trump decided it was a good idea to attack GMs CEO and criticize the effort, and then be even more confusing on sunday saying its all good. 

 

Its a pathetic effort to make people think he's "managing" the effort. Old school 1970s shake the tree style management theory. It was garbage then and its worse now.

 

But, thankfully, some smart cookies at GM and Ventec are doing a good job anyway. 

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/30/business/gm-ventilators-coronavirus-trump.html?action=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage

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19 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

I don't disagree that he's an idiot. My worry is by the US gov't showing discord like this, at a time like this, people will just be encouraged to do stupid things. Its good to point out where things can be done better but when she's talking about more investigations at a time like this it looks like she cares more about removing Trump than fighting the virus. 

 

 

But removing Trump directly assists with fighting the virus.  She's in a tough position.

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2 minutes ago, King Heffy said:

But removing Trump directly assists with fighting the virus.  She's in a tough position.

SMH at those that just keep thinking (and I use that loosely) that Trump is somehow affecting COVID-19.

 

 

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1 minute ago, King Heffy said:

But removing Trump directly assists with fighting the virus.  She's in a tough position.

he seems to have listened to Fauci finally and isn't doing his disaster by Easter plan, so there's that at least. And individual states have a lot of power too. 

 

She's potentially undermining her own messaging tho. Lets say she was successful somehow in removing him tomorrow. It would throw the states into an frantic polarized state where not much would get done and potentially make things far worse. Trump needs to be voted out at this point. 

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1 minute ago, Heretic said:

He's just a figure head - same as Trudeau - neither one is making the decisions.  

You need to go back to like grade 6 Social Studies to understand that the President of the United States holds way more power than the Prime Minister. I'm not just talking about the USA being bigger and therefore having more power. The US system is designed to give the President more power compared to the CDN system. 

 

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13 minutes ago, Down by the River said:

You need to go back to like grade 6 Social Studies to understand that the President of the United States holds way more power than the Prime Minister. I'm not just talking about the USA being bigger and therefore having more power. The US system is designed to give the President more power compared to the CDN system. 

 

From what I remember - it's the opposite - The senate in the US has the power.

 

I guess you need to go back to grade six:

 

"A US president needs to have the backing of his party and a majority in both the senate and house of representatives to exercise the same amount of legislative power that a Canadian Pm with a majority has. "

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