Chickenspear Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, Down by the River said: Well, at least he tried... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post RUPERTKBD Posted March 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2020 39 minutes ago, Heretic said: He's just a figure head - same as Trudeau - neither one is making the decisions. You honestly don't believe his downplaying of the severity of the crisis has influenced people's actions? Even when we see reports of mass gatherings at churches and beaches in deep red states? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 35 minutes ago, Heretic said: From what I remember - it's the opposite - The senate in the US has the power. the pissing match is the problem. Who cares who has more power, etc. everyone needs to be coordinating and working together. Even if it ends up having negligible effect immediately, the stress that Trump creates with his attacks (see my example above about GM and ventilators) may be having longer term consequences if Trump is scaring away other companies from wanting to get involved in the effort. By Trumps own comments he's just as concerned with his approval rating as the virus. Contrast that with how well our fed's and provinces are working together. Even Doug Ford tweeted out that Trudeau is doing a good job, which is a minor miracle in itself. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said: You honestly don't believe his downplaying of the severity of the crisis has influenced people's actions? Even when we see reports of mass gatherings at churches and beaches in deep red states? Sure - people are influenced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 I was chatting with the wife and we kind of came up with some reasons why the corona virus is spreading very quickly in some places and very slow in others. In the West... a large proportion of people here are simply unhygienic compared to say people in South Korea, Taiwan, Japan, etc. We live in a society where people who are sick who don't wear masks (it doesn't absolutely prevent the spread of any airborne illnesses, but does slow it down a lot), people who still wear shoes inside their homes, and we have washrooms with signs to remind people to wash their hands because a huge enough proportion of people don't. A culture where people just casually spit on the ground and throw trash anywhere, even when trash bins are at times within 2 meters of said individuals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: Contrast that with how well our fed's and provinces are working together. Even Doug Ford tweeted out that Trudeau is doing a good job, which is a minor miracle in itself. I think Ford has done an overall better job thus far than Trudeau during this 'crisis' (granted the former has less on his plate than a PM) - just my opinion...not stating it as a fact. But you don't see Ford 'gloating' or mugging the camera unlike some Urine Man. He's projecting strong leadership. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Jimmy McGill said: the pissing match is the problem. Who cares who has more power, etc. everyone needs to be coordinating and working together. Even if it ends up having negligible effect immediately, the stress that Trump creates with his attacks (see my example above about GM and ventilators) may be having longer term consequences if Trump is scaring away other companies from wanting to get involved in the effort. By Trumps own comments he's just as concerned with his approval rating as the virus. Contrast that with how well our fed's and provinces are working together. Even Doug Ford tweeted out that Trudeau is doing a good job, which is a minor miracle in itself. Agreed, just like how Pelosi wants $35 million for the John F. Kennedy Center for Performing Arts and $7 million for just one specific charter school in Washington, D.C - how does that help fight this pandemic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 1 minute ago, NewbieCanuckFan said: I think Ford has done an overall better job thus far than Trudeau during this 'crisis' (granted the former has less on his plate than a PM) - just my opinion...not stating it as a fact. But you don't see Ford 'gloating' or mugging the camera unlike some Urine Man. He's projecting strong leadership. Ford's been a pleasant surprise for sure, he's earned the praise he's getting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Heretic said: Agreed, just like how Pelosi wants $35 million for the John F. Kennedy Center for Performing Arts and $7 million for just one specific charter school in Washington, D.C - how does that help fight this pandemic? it helps keep people working in the arts community, just like other financial help is going to help other industries. I'm not going to get into food vs art thing with you on this thread but if you want to start a new thread I'd be happy to debate you on that topic elsewhere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Down by the River said: You need to go back to like grade 6 Social Studies to understand that the President of the United States holds way more power than the Prime Minister. I'm not just talking about the USA being bigger and therefore having more power. The US system is designed to give the President more power compared to the CDN system. i agree and look at the coronavirus issue what was/is the biggest difference between the usa and canada on this issue testing and why ? testing protocols and kits in canada are managed at the provincial level and provinces could decide when to get on this and bc got on it early other provinces a bit early . some not early enough though in the usa all testing protocols and kits are managed through the cdc (center for disease control) centralized in washington they wanted to develop their own kit, their first effort was flawed states were not permitted to do their own testing or get their own kits no state could test as a result some states broke the law by testing (washington) until cdc finally relented and allowed states to do more on their own on testing (and also finally got a test as well) (there are poorly reported rumours that cdc through the military finally shipped in 1/2 million tests from italy overnight 1 night) so in the usa no testing could happen as long as cdc did not allow it that is the main reason why usa is so far behind during this crisis state medical authorities were basically banging down the door of the cdc wanting to get moving on this issue Edited March 30, 2020 by coastal.view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Jimmy McGill said: it helps keep people working in the arts community, just like other financial help is going to help other industries. I'm not going to get into food vs art thing with you on this thread but if you want to start a new thread I'd be happy to debate you on that topic elsewhere. As you said - ventilators are more important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 Just now, Heretic said: As you said - ventilators are more important. we're not at the either-or stage. Lets pick this up then, or elsewhere on a new thread so we don't annoy people. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RUPERTKBD Posted March 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2020 12 minutes ago, Heretic said: Sure - people are influenced. Yet you were "shaking your head" at the idea that Trump was affecting COVID-19.... 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muscatel Marauder Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 The European Union consumes the most farmed salmon, according to Mowi ASA, formerly known as Marine Harvest ASA. They use antibiotics in farmed salmon to prevent them from getting the virus "piscine orthoreovirus". Kinda makes you wonder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post redhdlois Posted March 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2020 My Mom lives in an independent retirement home. Last night when I was talking to her, she said she read a new bulletin put out by her residence. It said that two new retirement homes are infected. The new Amica on Taylor Way in West Vanc and the new Amica in Edgemont Village in North Vancouver. Each are graduated living, so not sure what section it has happened in. I am very concerned about her and just have to hope she will be ok where she is. On another note.....Sunday was my last day of self-isolation required after travelling. So, I had placed a curbside pickup order via email at a gardening store. They called and finalized it and said it was ready for pickup. My first time out was a bit weird, to say the least. Anyway, I pulled up to gated entrance of the garden centre and popped my trunk and waited for my order. A guy pulled up right beside me, jumped out of his truck and went up to the gate not realizing they weren’t open for regular business. He read the sign on the gate (stating you are to call or email your order in and then wait for a response that it is ready).....and then proceeded to walk over to my car and come up to my half opened window to tell me you have to call first. I put up my hand quickly and then put my window up. I was so p*ssed. What a jackass. I was well aware what you needed to do....and stay the eff away from me. All of the precautions you take could be all for not thanks to oblivious people like him. I am thinking of getting t-shirts made up that say (on the front and back) ‘Stay the eff away from me’ Thanks for the vent! I think I feel safer just staying at home inside my suite. 3 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, redhdlois said: I think I feel safer just staying at home inside my suite. Nailed it. Going out is so stressful and my anxiety goes through the roof. It's easier this way...not going to fight it or feel I'm missing out by removing myself from society. The only issue I have is it's absolutely KILLING ME to not be able to be with my family. We are so incredibly close and when the walls close in, we get together, play board games or share a meal and everything just goes away. Without that, it's like I'm deficient. I know "this too shall pass" but I had a moment (again) last night where it really hit me. Who would have ever imagined this? Even when Dad was battling chemo and so susceptible to everything....I could be there for/with him. Now he's floundering out there on his own. We all need to just hang in there...what we do in the here and now will greatly impact how long we have to endure this misery. Best of luck to your Mom, Lois. Heart wrenching to have to "sit and wait" to see if our loved ones remain unscathed and safe. Be strong. <3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stawns Posted March 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2020 21 minutes ago, NewbieCanuckFan said: I think Ford has done an overall better job thus far than Trudeau during this 'crisis' (granted the former has less on his plate than a PM) - just my opinion...not stating it as a fact. But you don't see Ford 'gloating' or mugging the camera unlike some Urine Man. He's projecting strong leadership. The fight is at the provincial level. The feds job is to make sure they have the tools and resources to do it. So if the provinces are doing a good job, it means the feds are too. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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