Elias Pettersson Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 @Dazzle I used to like you as a poster. We even played poker together years ago. What happened to you? I am seriously concerned to be honest... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Goose Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 So far with PA we will have to see how Myrenberg develops vs Studnicka. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DefCon1 Posted May 21, 2023 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Dazzle said: Canuck fans - never change - the obsession with Benning is unreal. Bennings stink will last for a decade or more after he was layed off. Plus the 8 years he crap the bed so that makes it about 18 years. We still can't get rid of OEL and he traded the 9th overall pick. Those dumb moves have lasting effects for sure. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefCon1 Posted May 21, 2023 Author Share Posted May 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: In all fairness to Benning, he and his scouts drafted McCann and Forsling. He then signed Stecher, Tanev and Chatfield out of college or as free agents. So the work was done. For whatever reason, he and his team decided to move on from them. Lesson to be learned here regardless who the GM is. Keep these guys in the AHL for as long as you can. You just never know. This is why I don't want Hoglander to be traded. I don't want him to turn into a 25-30 goal scorer with another team. Even Rathbone I am not inclined to move, if they can keep him as a 7/8 Dman next year and play Hirose in Abby that would be a better situation for now and then re-evaluate after a year... People here want them moved or as a throw away while not looking at the long term. They could easily be the next Chatfield or Forsling or Lomberg etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken. Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 Took me too long to figure out who tf Russel was haha you forgot to mention Beagle 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: In all fairness to Benning, he and his scouts drafted McCann and Forsling. He then signed Stecher, Tanev and Chatfield out of college or as free agents. So the work was done. For whatever reason, he and his team decided to move on from them. Lesson to be learned here regardless who the GM is. Keep these guys in the AHL for as long as you can. You just never know. This is why I don't want Hoglander to be traded. I don't want him to turn into a 25-30 goal scorer with another team. Even Rathbone I am not inclined to move, if they can keep him as a 7/8 Dman next year and play Hirose in Abby that would be a better situation for now and then re-evaluate after a year... So Jim Benning signed Tanev was he was employed by the Boston Bruins? He was signed in 2010 by Gillis under recommendation by Gagner. Edited May 21, 2023 by NewbieCanuckFan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, NewbieCanuckFan said: So Jim Benning signed Tanev was he was employed by the Boston Bruins? He was signed in 2010 by Gillis under recommendation by Gagner. Yes, he was actually working for the Canucks under the table, knowing he would be our GM soon… 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spur1 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 Talk about flogging a dead horse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Bob.Loblaw Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 2 hours ago, Conscience said: Maybe we can put Myers on IR for concussion like symptoms? His brain is clearly not working at an nhl level. He seems to always want to lay on the ice. He seems to be playing well for Canada right now. So... tough luck. We are stuck with him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 Vancouver has had a lonnnng history of flops in the draft. Way before Benning. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 Oh good. A whole thread on Benning. This ought to be really productive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 3 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: I think Dazzle is the only poster that actually uses the brown bag and the Loui. They are made for him really... Hey, the Loui is a great honour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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iinatcc Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 4 hours ago, Dazzle said: Canuck fans - never change - the obsession with Benning is unreal. Well the damage he left will be felt for a long time 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 5 hours ago, vannuck59 said: Yah Benning is the worst GM ever. Stupid moves any 5th grader could have done better. Shhhh aren't we trying to convince the Leafs to hire him? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 To play Devil's advocate, JB acquired all those guys, we just gave up on them early. You could argue none of them were really that good with us - they all developed into solid players on much better teams. We never gave Forsling a chance, but the other guys had a chance here and there and were never amazing. I thought McCann could have done better if we were patient with him but we never were. I never thought much of Chatfield and realistically he's a 6th defenceman so not that big of a loss. I will argue that JB had good intentions and made moves at the right time to address the team's needs, the problem was exactly scouting - we got the wrong player and they all sucked with us. OEL and LE are the big names that come to mind. The same goes for drafting, watching Tkachuk and Nylander buzzing in the playoffs hurts when they should have been Canucks. That being said, every team makes a mess of their drafting, top 10 picks though are very rarely busts and having two in a couple of years sets us way back - Petey and Hughes outplaying their draft doesn't quite negate Juolevi and Virtanen. You might call it bad luck but I think it's on our scouts to identify players who will do well in our system, and it seems as though most of the players who left the Canucks did well, and those who were doing well and came here did poorly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, DownUndaCanuck said: To play Devil's advocate, JB acquired all those guys, we just gave up on them early. You could argue none of them were really that good with us - they all developed into solid players on much better teams. We never gave Forsling a chance, but the other guys had a chance here and there and were never amazing. I thought McCann could have done better if we were patient with him but we never were. I never thought much of Chatfield and realistically he's a 6th defenceman so not that big of a loss. I will argue that JB had good intentions and made moves at the right time to address the team's needs, the problem was exactly scouting - we got the wrong player and they all sucked with us. OEL and LE are the big names that come to mind. The same goes for drafting, watching Tkachuk and Nylander buzzing in the playoffs hurts when they should have been Canucks. That being said, every team makes a mess of their drafting, top 10 picks though are very rarely busts and having two in a couple of years sets us way back - Petey and Hughes outplaying their draft doesn't quite negate Juolevi and Virtanen. You might call it bad luck but I think it's on our scouts to identify players who will do well in our system, and it seems as though most of the players who left the Canucks did well, and those who were doing well and came here did poorly. With all the L's Benning had during his time with Vancouver you almost have to feel sorry for him. It almost feels like if Benning had a 15 times to guess between heads or tails in a coin flip and he only got it right twice. It's comically sad actually. It's like McCann or Virtanen ... flip a coin ... Virtannen ... loss Forsling or Tryamkin ... flip a coin ... Tryamkin ... loss Tkachuck or Juolevi ... flip a coin ...Juolevi ... loss Baertschi or 2nd Round Pick ... flip a coin ... Beartschi ... loss Edited May 21, 2023 by iinatcc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTramFan Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 Did we need another thread on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTramFan Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 It's like sitting next to your grandpa and hearing the same story over and over and over... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckleHorse Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 8 hours ago, hammertime said: we got some great fans in this city. We also have some very dedicated haters who like to pretend to be fans so don’t let their stupid little games fool you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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