Popular Post Rob_Zepp Posted July 20, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2018 3 hours ago, Horvat is a Boss said: This article lists Pettersson has having the potential to have a Calder Trophy caliber season. He's also ranked 191st on NHL.com's fantasy top 250 list. Dahlin, Svechnikov and Zadina are the only ones we are ranked higher and Hughes is ranked one spot lower. This Montreal based "futurist" blogger and financial dude claims to have a way with hockey insight too and calls EP "generational" and thinks he is a Calder lock. Interesting to see so many people outside of the Canuck fanbase excited for this player to get his NHL career started. There was a lot of buzz in my Ontario trip this summer about him when people knew I followed Vancouver and one person pointed me to this article making the rounds in Ontario and Quebec hockey circles. I cut/paste his article but the videos didn't come across properly so please check out the link if you want to see the whole thing in context he intended. This Player will be Rookie of the Year in 2019 Michael K. SpencerFollow The original business insider. A tech Futurist and Editor of FutureSin. WeChat: mikekevinspencer Apr 26 This Player will be NHL Rookie of the Year in 2019 Elias Pettersson is a generational talent, just pencil him in for ROY honors for the NHL next year. YouTube Oddly enough I’m also a Sports futurist, I’m obsessed with all sports stats and as a Canadian, that includes the game of Ice Hockey to be sure. There’s someone coming out of Sweden who is kind of special. Here is a player who will score more goals in his career than Daniel Sedin did. He already set SHL records, that’s Sweden’s top professional league by the way, for those of you who aren’t die-hard hockey fans. Sweden has a special group of players that hockey fans remember fondly: Forsberg, Naslund, Backstrom, Sedin, it won’t be long before we’ll be adding Pettersson to that list, this kid is that good! He’s essentially broken records for points and playoff points by a U20 player and will dawn a Vancouver Canucks jersey in 2019. In just 13 playoff games, he has 10 goals and 19 points. If you combine regular season and playoff games, he scored 34 goals in 57 games, that’s 0.6 goals a game against the best players in Sweden. That’s 10 more goals this season than Daniel Sedin ever scored. A full 14 more points than Henrik Sedin ever put up, or 1.32 PPG. For his age, this makes Elias Petterson, pretty much the most prolific scorer to come out of Sweden, well ever. Chosen 5th overall in 2017, this is what Eliteprospects.com has to say about him: A crafty and agile two-way forward, Pettersson is consistently productive in all three zones. As he gets stronger, he’ll become even more physical and aggressive than he is now, and his creativity could definitely elevate his game to dominant levels. He can be described as a tenacious, jack-of-all-trades kind of player; he is well versed in all the important aspects of his own game. His speed and top-end acceleration continue to improve game by game, and his hard-nosedness shows through in his dogged pursuit of puck control. Elias Pettersson is a complete hockey player with exceptional hockey sense who brings intellect and youthful exuberance to a game that feeds on his kind of exciting athleticism. [EP 2017] This year in 2018, he was named SHL Playoff MVP. He turns 20 in November, and he a clutch and desire to win that is seemingly indomitable. Vancouver Courier Let’s not have realistic expectation anymore. Some believe Elias Pettersson is better than (19-year-old) Peter Forsberg and Kent Nilsson. Being compared to greatness is flattering but the NHL is a cruel test for such a rare talent. Based on his production in the Allsvenskan league the year before and the performance of other top prospects, Jeremy Davis of Canucks Army suggested that 0.52 points per game would be a reasonable expectation for Pettersson. He shattered those expectations, averaging 1.28 points per game. He did even better in the Playoffs. It appears as a prospect, he’s evolved into another gear during the 2018 season. Meaning, he’s ready for the big leagues. I’m not a sports better, but if I were, the odds are stacked in his favor to be one of the most dominant rookies in the NHL in recent memory. It’s a tall order, as the NHL younglings are full of surprises and the speed of the pro game is considerable. His shot release is better than many of the Swedish greats and while he’s unlikely to develop into the playmaker Forsberg or Henrik Sedin were, he’s vision and point productivity could be more balanced. He’s a dangler and has an uncanny instinct for the net. He’s the type of player that can create high quality scoring chances all by himself and thus find chemistry with Vancouver’s young core. Pettersson is also a favourite for the Guldhjälmen (or Gold Helmet), the MVP award for the SHL that is voted on by the players. He’s just 75 kg / 165 lbs but with a lanky frame, he’s need to fill out a bit to compete against men in the NHL. But he has scoring tools that can’t be taught. The kind of vision and flair stuff that you might find in a hockey prospect only a dozen times a decade. He scores nearly a goal a game in his last visit to the World Juniors where the best prospects play, scoring 5 goals in 7 games. Then capped it off with 10 goals in 13 playoff games in the SHL, that could translate into a 70 to 75 point rookie season in the NHL, if everything goes well with upwards of 35 goals. One can imagine him playing alongside Brock Boeser, Vancouver’s latest rookie who had a breakout season. Brock Boeser posted 29 goals and 26 assists and despite missing the last month of the season. Expect Pettersson to crush some rookie scoring records for the Canucks in 2019. I actually believe Pettersson has the capability to be a legitimate superstar and a pure scorer the Canucks have not seen since Pavel Bure. The future is tomorrow for Pettersson in 2019, and his slight frame won’t be the big impediment it once would have been in the new NHL, where raw speed counts. His top-acceleration here will give him fairly enough opportunities to do this: 3 1 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Specz Posted July 20, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2018 It's so exciting to see us with a Calder candidate year after year. That is absolutely insane. We have never seen anything like this and it is only the tip of the iceberg. There are so many prospects still waiting for their chance to make the show. Islanders may have won it this year but watch out, we ain't close to finish with our Calder prospects yet! Vancouver of all teams! What a pleasant change of scenery. 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble 6 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 If Pettersson stays healthy, he'll finish what Boeser started. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post J-23 Posted July 20, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2018 35 minutes ago, Horvat is a Boss said: If Pettersson stays healthy, he'll finish what Boeser started. Boeser is just getting started. 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cory40 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 13 hours ago, DrJockitch said: His problem wasn't labelling him generational it was the over-use of the term generational. By definition this should be used for a player, maybe two that is head and shoulders above the rest, for sports it would usually be about once every 10 years (as opposed to 20 in regular life). Gretzky, Mario, Orr, Bossey, Howe, Crosby are generational players and there is probably a handful more in the past. McDavid may become one but isn't yet. Every good player or prospect that comes along is hardly generational and frankly it should be a judgement made at the end of someones career not at the draft. Generational prospect I would be willing to give more liberally. A lot more of those come along. Lindros is a great picture of a generational prospect that for various reasons didn't turn into a generational player, hall of famer yes but not generational. Generational players start out as generational doing things their peers couldn't. Ie Elias Pettersson. And I know what his problem was and agree with it. But that being said I feel 100 percent Elias is already doing what players that come along once every 20 years is doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cory40 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 On 7/18/2018 at 12:50 PM, MattJVD said: IMO Crosby and Ovechkin are the only two generational players in the league. Not Tavares, not Karlsson, not Malkin, not Kopitar. I guess McDavid is making a case for himself now too. You lost me at Malkin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 3 hours ago, theo5789 said: 21 year old Brock Boeser talking about the youth like a seasoned veteran. Maturity beyond his years... boded well... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenhodgejr Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Teams that win the cup usually have a superstar first line centre, a superstar defence man, and a really good goalie. I am confident we have all three of these with Elias Pettersson, Quinn Hughes, and Thatcher Demko We have a solid second line center in Bo Horvat who we can rely on in big moments and a star goal scorer in Brock Boeser. Next season in Utica a lot of the prospects will have a chance to play together and build chemistry. Also Pettersson will get to play in the NHL We will also be able to hopefully add 2-3 more NHL quality prospects at the draft in Vancouver. We could also see the return of monster defence man Nikita Tyramkin who would come in handy during the playoffs. I see Elias Pettersson as our Wayne Gretzky. Quinn Hughes as our Paul Coffey and Thatcher Demko as our Grant Fuhr. Maybe Jari Kurri is like our Brock Boeser, We could still use a LW like Messier and a top line RD. Exciting times for Canucks fans.... GO CANUCKS GO!!! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBeard Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Oh Boi, fellow gents... thats a pretty high expectation to fall from... Ill be fine with 15-20g 40-50 pnts for the young man He'll be the best when we need him to be at our journey to the stanley cup... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattJVD Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 51 minutes ago, BlackBeard said: Oh Boi, fellow gents... thats a pretty high expectation to fall from... Ill be fine with 15-20g 40-50 pnts for the young man He'll be the best when we need him to be at our journey to the stanley cup... I get what you're saying, but I would have been happy with 0.75 points per game in the SHL last year for him and he blew that out of the water. The kid has so much talent, he's probably capable of a 60 to 70 point rookie year (if he plays all 82). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Vicky Posted July 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 21, 2018 50 minutes ago, MattJVD said: I get what you're saying, but I would have been happy with 0.75 points per game in the SHL last year for him and he blew that out of the water. The kid has so much talent, he's probably capable of a 60 to 70 point rookie year (if he plays all 82). Sit him for the first 2. It's worked before. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 28 minutes ago, Vicky said: Sit him for the first 2. It's worked before. Even just for the reaction 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rindiculous Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 2 hours ago, MattJVD said: I get what you're saying, but I would have been happy with 0.75 points per game in the SHL last year for him and he blew that out of the water. The kid has so much talent, he's probably capable of a 60 to 70 point rookie year (if he plays all 82). I'll only be happy if Pettersson wins the Art Ross, Ted Lindsay, or Hart this year. Therefore, since he's good at exceeding expectations, I now know that he will win all 3. :D 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeneedLumme Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 17 hours ago, Rindiculous said: I'll only be happy if Pettersson wins the Art Ross, Ted Lindsay, or Hart this year. Therefore, since he's good at exceeding expectations, I now know that he will win all 3. :D I like your positivity, but I think you may be slightly optimistic. I think that this year the only addition to his trophy collection will be the Calder. The Ross, Lindsay and Hart probably won't come till next year, and the Conn Smithe not until the year after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby_Lu1ngo Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 Pure scorer we haven’t seen since Bure? i would argue that naslund was pure scorer between the two. But very nice to see EP getting lots of recognition. He’s not under the radar anymore so it will be interesting how he deals with the spotlight that will be on him. If anything having EP and Boeser in the mix might take a little pressure of Hughes if he starts this year too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rocket Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 I think at some point this season ( might not be till March if he goes back to Michigan ) we will see a powerplay unit the looks like this: gagner - horvat - pettersson boeser - Hughes hopefully hughes will get some time to learn to play on the right side in the pp this season wherever he plays. I remember seeing an interview where he talked about being put on his off side on the pp for team USA at the world championships and it was something he had never done before and wanted to improve. I’m thinking he’ll get lots of chances there this season in Van or Utica, but I’m not sure about Michigan. It depends if they want to use him the same way as last year or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetroCanuck Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Bobby_Lu1ngo said: Pure scorer we haven’t seen since Bure? i would argue that naslund was pure scorer between the two. But very nice to see EP getting lots of recognition. He’s not under the radar anymore so it will be interesting how he deals with the spotlight that will be on him. If anything having EP and Boeser in the mix might take a little pressure of Hughes if he starts this year too. Id argue that this will be better for Juolevi who is more NHL ready but is slipping under the radar, which is good for him. I cant see Juolevi and Hughes both on the roster to start the season and my guess is Juolevi is ahead of Hughes development wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 On 7/22/2018 at 12:19 PM, Canadian Clay said: I think at some point this season ( might not be till March if he goes back to Michigan ) we will see a powerplay unit the looks like this: gagner - horvat - pettersson boeser - Hughes hopefully hughes will get some time to learn to play on the right side in the pp this season wherever he plays. I remember seeing an interview where he talked about being put on his off side on the pp for team USA at the world championships and it was something he had never done before and wanted to improve. I’m thinking he’ll get lots of chances there this season in Van or Utica, but I’m not sure about Michigan. It depends if they want to use him the same way as last year or not. ....not sure how you can put Gagner on that PP with a straight face... It should be Dahlen or Gaudette but likely will be Baer or Erikkson (for net front presence) I would rather see another D. on the PP than Gag's... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rocket Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Rollieo Del Fuego said: ....not sure how you can put Gagner on that PP with a straight face... It should be Dahlen or Gaudette but likely will be Baer or Erikkson (for net front presence) I would rather see another D. on the PP than Gag's... I put gagner cause he’s a right handed shot and played there at times on the PP last season (sometimes Vanek was there too). Gaudette would be good there too, as I believe that’s where he played with northeastern. But I don’t think he will have built up the trust with Green yet by the end of the year end (maybe though). I think baer and Eriksson will be in the 2nd unit to help spread out the offense and so they can be on their off wing for the pp. i know gagner is easy to rag on but his greatest strength as a player is banging home picks at the net front, he did it a lot with the Sedins towards the end of the season and putting him there *may* also up his trade value edit: just wanna day I do agree with you, that there are better options than gagner; but this is me trying to guess what green might do, not say what my preferred pp unit would be. Edit 2: just a thought, maybe Virtanen down low? Big body, good for retrieving pucks, for checking, and a threat to shoot the puck. Could work well actually Edited July 23, 2018 by Canadian Clay Added to post 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 21 minutes ago, Canadian Clay said: I put gagner cause he’s a right handed shot and played there at times on the PP last season (sometimes Vanek was there too). Gaudette would be good there too, as I believe that’s where he played with northeastern. But I don’t think he will have built up the trust with Green yet by the end of the year end (maybe though). I think baer and Eriksson will be in the 2nd unit to help spread out the offense and so they can be on their off wing for the pp. i know gagner is easy to rag on but his greatest strength as a player is banging home picks at the net front, he did it a lot with the Sedins towards the end of the season and putting him there *may* also up his trade value edit: just wanna day I do agree with you, that there are better options than gagner; but this is me trying to guess what green might do, not say what my preferred pp unit would be. Edit 2: just a thought, maybe Virtanen down low? Big body, good for retrieving pucks, for checking, and a threat to shoot the puck. Could work well actually Virtanen's got earn it by showing puck skills, that is something he is supposed to be working on this summer...hope it works out for him...Gaudette has everything Gag.s has plus the ability to go into the corner's and come out with the puck....as well as backcheck....both things I have not seen Gagner do...at all really ...he certainly has never been to the corner's to check or be checked... By the TDL I think we see both Dahlen and Gaudette up to stay and Gagner plus....? Eriksson or Baer or Granlund will be gone... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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