CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 https://theprovince.com/sports/hockey/ben-kuzma-canucks-planning-for-healthy-return-of-ferland-if-season-is-salvaged?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1585864493 Quote "It’s a big loss for us. We were counting on (Micheal) to play with good players, get 20 goals and 40 or 50 points and bring some intangibles you need to be successful in the playoffs" Four days before his final foray into the unknown this season, Micheal Ferland was feeling upbeat. Educated on the complex vestibular sensory system that controls motion and motor functions, and excited about how well he was competing in contact practices, the Canucks winger had reason to believe he could be relieved of concussion concerns. That hope came Feb. 10 in Vancouver. Reality struck Feb. 14 in Utica, N.Y. Ferland lasted one period in his only outing with the AHL Comets after suffering concussion-like symptoms and he stayed on the competitive sidelines. It was the third concussion-related episode this season, restricting him to 14 NHL games and raise more career concerns. If a season put on pause, because of the novel coronavirus pandemic, is salvaged in some manner the Canucks should ice a healthier roster with the return of Jacob Markstrom, Chris Tanev and Jay Beagle from injury. The return of Ferland would be another wait-and-see proposition. Aside from being symptom free by following a five-step recovery protocol, it won’t be until his heart rate is ramped up by pace and aggressiveness in a game to see how he reacts. The vestibular system provides the brain with information about motion, head position and orientation. It also affects motor functions for balance and stability of the head and body. And because concussions can be caused by a blow or whiplash, the very nature of the game Ferland must play to be effective — strong on pucks and the opposition — will be tested again. Ferland suffered a concussion in a fight with Kyle Clifford on Oct. 30 in Los Angeles and was sidelined for 17 games. In his second game back, he delivered a heavy hit in a Dec. 10 game against Toronto and missed another 27 games before playing in Utica. Ferland is working out in Brandon, Man. to prepare for training camp, whether it’s in June or July, or September if the season doesn’t resume. He turns 28 on April 20. “I’ve been told he should be ready to go and be able to do the things he’s always done,” Canucks’ general manager Jim Benning said Thursday. “We’re going to plan accordingly that he’s going to be healthy.” Ferland was acquired July 10 and signed a four-year, US$14 million free-agent deal. The $3.5 million cap hit was palatable because the 6-1, 217-pound winger was expected to at least replicate the 40 points (17-23) he had with the Carolina Hurricanes last season and 41 points (21-20) with the Calgary Flames in 2017-18. “It’s unfortunate and a big loss for us,” added Benning. “We were counting on him to play with good players, get 20 goals and 40 or 50 points and bring some intangibles you need to be successful in the playoffs. Even as you go through the season, the last 20 games get harder and more physical. “He would have been a guy who could play different styles — rough and physical or handling the puck and make plays 5-on-5.” With 17 of his 23 assists in Carolina last season of the primary variety, the Canucks were banking on a big body who could bang and produce. It’s why they had a level of interest in finding a replacement by renting Wayne Simmonds at the trade deadline to see if he could bring some missing moxie. But the Canucks backed off to save cap space with the expected return of Brock Boeser from injury. The only certainty with Ferland is uncertainty until he returns to the ice and plays with the fire and desire that made him attractive to the Canucks. Sven Baertschi has endured five career concussions and returned this season to compile 46 points (13-33) in 43 games with the Comets and even draw some trade deadline interest. He was limited to 26 NHL games last season. “I’ve been in the business long enough and with other organizations where we’ve had players miss a year with a concussion and come back and do really well,” stressed Benning. “With Micheal, what I’m hearing is that once he has healed, he’ll be where he was before he got hurt (Utica).” And that was a good place. Ferland was buoyed by concussion knowledge and how he was feeling. “I’ve met with a lot of specialists,” he said before being dispatched to Utica. “I can honestly say that I’ve learned so much over the last 1½ to two years about concussions. I’d be lying if I said I’m not thinking about that kind of stuff (long-term effects), but I asked a lot of questions and I’ve talked to a lot of people. “I’ve had a few of them (concussions) and the style of game I play, that doesn’t help. But I’m not really worried about it. Once I fix this, I think I can go back to being the player I was in junior and not having little things like this that bump my system off. l’ll be able to hit guys and play my style and not worry about being hurt. “I think I’m close.” And even if Ferland isn’t sound should the season resume — and there’s another prolonged absence and uncertainty — Benning isn’t about to pull the plug on his investment with a buyout. “It’s too early to even go down that road — that’s not what we’re thinking,” said the GM. Hope for a speedy and full recovery. Obviously thinking of his way of life/family/mental health above everything, but would love to see a healthy Ferland make a comeback if possible. The team looked very passive in the physical department when he was out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 21 minutes ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said: https://theprovince.com/sports/hockey/ben-kuzma-canucks-planning-for-healthy-return-of-ferland-if-season-is-salvaged?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1585864493 Hope for a speedy and full recovery. Obviously thinking of his way of life/family/mental health above everything, but would love to see a healthy Ferland make a comeback if possible. The team looked very passive in the physical department when he was out. I'm scared for Ferkie tbh. I don't want him getting better just to have his bell rung one more time. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbriggs Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 On 4/2/2020 at 11:39 AM, -AJ- said: Yeah, I will be skeptical about his health until he's actually playing real NHL games and not having symptoms. Concussions are nasty like that. Yup, look how long he lasted in the AHL game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hairy Kneel Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 If were going to bring him back, let's wait til January. No full contact till then. Heal the brain first. If he comes back and only lasts a few games let him go. It's not a lifetime guarantee to play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 26 minutes ago, Hairy Kneel said: If were going to bring him back, let's wait til January. No full contact till then. Heal the brain first. If he comes back and only lasts a few games let him go. It's not a lifetime guarantee to play. Sometimes it’s hard to hold these young men back Hairy, and at the same time they know it hurts to be out of the game for too long.. I’m guessing next October we see him.. I would prefer for Management to take a programed approach to this for a month where he plays every other game, that would also work positively to give a couple of worthy prospects to cut their teeth early. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Maybe they signed him(an extra yr; cheaper AAV) knowing he needed time to heal fully/completely? Tell him to claim headaches, if there was any early uncertainty. Bingo, gives LTIR space, & insurance covers most of the 1st season. By sticking their neck out to such a degree(helping a guy with a young family) they get a committed soldier for the last 3 seasons. Worst case is he never gets back to feeling 100%, & they LTIR/insurance-cover all the way to 2024. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Nuxfanabroad said: Maybe they signed him(an extra yr; cheaper AAV) knowing he needed time to heal fully/completely? Tell him to claim headaches, if there was any early uncertainty. Bingo, gives LTIR space, & insurance covers most of the 1st season. By sticking their neck out to such a degree(helping a guy with a young family) they get a committed soldier for the last 3 seasons. Worst case is he never gets back to feeling 100%, & they LTIR/insurance-cover all the way to 2024. do you really think that is the way business on done? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NexusRift Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 Bummer that he didn't pan out for us. Yea. I know...."But he got injured......he's got concussion issues....and on and on...." My views on the acquisition of Ferland were of mixed feelings at the time. As an original Flames draft pick, he was a project player. We certainly know of that. Goldy comes to mind. I hold no belief he will be a top six on our 'Nucks. Nor do I believe he'll ever play enough games in a season to make an impact. I'm I being a Debby Downer, or does anyone else share my thoughts...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcam Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 I really was so excited when Benning signed Ferland... Ferland plays with that high energy and edge that every team wants.. You could tell from his first shift he was holding back this past season.. I just hope he has a great recovery and no medical issues and can lead a healthy lifestyle.. If we have a healthy Ferland 6'1, 215 lbs playing 15-18 mins we will have a much tougher exciting team... So excited to see big Ferland play his game again.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 so if Ferland is ready to play in playoffs will Benning waive eriksson I feel like that's a distinct possibility Miller Pettersson Boeser Pearson Horvat Toffoli Roussel Gaudette Virtanen Ferland Beagle MacEwen Sutter Bailey, Baertchi, Lind, Jasek, Gadojvic, Gravoac (callups) Hughes Tanev Edler Myers Benn Stecher Fantenberg Juolevi Rafferty Brisebois (callups) Markstrom Demko Dominque looks good minus 3rd d pairing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 5 hours ago, canuktravella said: so if Ferland is ready to play in playoffs will Benning waive eriksson I feel like that's a distinct possibility Miller Pettersson Boeser Pearson Horvat Toffoli Roussel Gaudette Virtanen Ferland Beagle MacEwen Sutter Bailey, Baertchi, Lind, Jasek, Gadojvic, Gravoac (callups) Hughes Tanev Edler Myers Benn Stecher Fantenberg Juolevi Rafferty Brisebois (callups) Markstrom Demko Dominque looks good minus 3rd d pairing Do we need to be under the cap for the playoffs? With Boeser back off LTIR, I'm not sure if that roster fits under the cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, -AJ- said: Do we need to be under the cap for the playoffs? With Boeser back off LTIR, I'm not sure if that roster fits under the cap. no cap during playoffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers joe Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 where did my boy motte go.? love that guy. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Canuck #12 Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 5 hours ago, smithers joe said: where did my boy motte go.? love that guy. Me too, but I just don't think there's going to be any room for him Joe. I think they'll be using some slightly more skilled fourth-liners in his place starting next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 Just now, Captain Canuck #12 said: Me too, but I just don't think there's going to be any room for him Joe. I think they'll be using some slightly more skilled fourth-liners in his place starting next season. I keep thinking Motte is going to be the odd one out, but then he always surprises me. I wouldn't be too surprised if he somehow still manages to retain a spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Canuck #12 Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 Just now, -AJ- said: I keep thinking Motte is going to be the odd one out, but then he always surprises me. I wouldn't be too surprised if he somehow still manages to retain a spot. I think a lot depends on Ferland's health, and the health of our forwards in general. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 fergot about motte and leivo geezus we have alot of forwards that wont be here next yr sutter beagle motte leivo eriksson ferland roussel could all be gone 5of7 of these guys will be gone at least 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 On 2/15/2020 at 5:10 PM, Toyotasfan said: Carolina was negligent in recognizing an injury, properly diagnosis, treatment and ultimately signing off on a clean bill of health. Doesn’t really seem like an insurance company will be ok with paying out +/- 10 to 12 million (give or take) for an injury that can’t be even pinpointed to an exact day. Ferland obviously just wants to play , but I have a feeling it will go to the lawyers and could turn ugly. On 2/15/2020 at 10:05 PM, Alflives said: Love to see that happen, but me thinks Furley is done. He needs to play a very aggressive and heavy game to be effective. That’s just not possible with his bad coconut. On 2/16/2020 at 2:25 AM, N4ZZY said: I tend to agree with this assesment. Ferland, while I love for him to come back and play for the Canucks, I don't know if he'll be effective if he doesn't play his game. I think he's done for at least this season. Not sure about his career. Crosby has had a few concussions as well, and he's come back from them. Ferland and him play different styles of game, that's for sure, but hockey is hockey right? And it's aggressive, and there are physical hits. I'd like to see if Ferland can rebound this season, but if not, that's ok. He needs to take care of his own health, his brain/mind and his family. That's far more important i the grander scheme of things, than, well, hockey. I have a feeling you guys are 100% wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 14 hours ago, canuktravella said: no cap during playoffs No roster limits in playoffs. Cap still applies normally. Though I have read rumors that if the NHL does come back, the league won't be enforcing cap limits given the freak season. Can't really penalize a team that picked up a player at the TDL because they had a guy out the rest of the season on LTIR, who's now healthy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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