Quinn Hughes loses Calder

[canucklehead80]

1 minute ago, tas said:

watch makar for 82 games next year and hughes for 4-6 and see if you feel the same way. 

Makar's a great player, I'm just being a homer

[IBatch]

3 minutes ago, goalie13 said:

Seems like a pretty solid victory by Makar.  More than twice as many 1st place votes.

 

 

Who’s the homer that voted Fox as number one?  Ha ha.   Seems about right to me,  no complaints.   Which team was still alive again - COL or VAN? Both the voting for the Calder and the voting for GM of the year would have looked a lot better had they done it after  the post season.   Calder is probably to the toughest trophy to win - but it also doesn’t mean as much as people might think.   Go back and see who was on some of the lists way down and who turns  out to be the best player over the years .  Yes sometimes it’s the Calder winner but more often then not by quite a margin it’s not.   Usually the Calder finalists all turn into very good players - almost always - so will take the win and move on. 

[Samgagner'sface]

Silver lining, was winning the Calder going to affect our cap?  Is there a performance bonus that gets tacked on to the salary cap  for the Calder winner ?

[bree2]

16 minutes ago, VancouverHabitant said:

Haha come on guys, Makar was just as good as Quinn.   Robbed 

the way i look  at it is Hughes was played on all four lines to help the lines out, Makar played solely with MacKinnon,  who helped their team the most and that would be Hughes, but its done and i am sure Hughes will keep making history he is that good!

[Warhippy]

I feel as though Hughes deserved to win.

 

Without Makar, the Avs are still a playoff team.  Without Hughes, the Canucks are drafting top 5.  Hughes had mroe points, is younger and does not play behind anyone drafted higher than 5th overall.

 

Shame really but whatever

[khay]

I think if you measure the impact on their respective teams, Hughes >>> Makar.

 

Hughes had huge impact in turning a bottom dwelling team to a playoff team. 

 

These things are never completely fair anyways.

[Warhippy]

Also, for those upset at this...We have 2 calder winning players on the team right now and 2 more nominated sooooo

[IBatch]

14 minutes ago, Squamfan said:

if quinn hughes was a Leaf he is a unanimous Calder winner 

I get the fun ribbing to TO fans and their universe - but that’s not how this works. Writers from all over vote and they all cover their teams in each NHL city and places that have more then one team in their state or province.    Pro hockey association writers are evenly distributed all over the place not just Ontario. 

[IBatch]

2 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

Also, for those upset at this...We have 2 calder winning players on the team right now and 2 more nominated sooooo

2 winners?  Hmmm.  Bure was awhile ago. 
 

Three finalists in a row.    Can’t remember a team that’s done that before - but maybe I’m not paying enough attention. 

Edited September 21, 2020 by IBatch

[Coconuts]

He was the sexy pick early on, I guess the media weren't open to changing their minds as the season carried on

 

Still got it wrong imo, but I'm not surprised 

[Thirston]

1 minute ago, Warhippy said:

Also, for those upset at this...We have 2 calder winning players on the team right now and 2 more nominated sooooo

Who’s the second? 

[Provost]

You can't say he was robbed.  Two excellent players, Makar was the favourite from most reports.  Voting was relatively close in terms of points.

[Coconuts]

2 minutes ago, IBatch said:

2 winners?  Hmmm.  Bure was awhile ago. 

Right now, in our lineup

 

Tyler Myers won the Calder as a rookie

Edited September 21, 2020 by Coconuts

[Googlie]

9 minutes ago, Slegr said:

Hughes deserved it. But on the bright side, it might bring his impending contract down a few dollars next year?

Not after he wins the Hart and the Norris!!!!

[Warhippy]

1 minute ago, IBatch said:

2 winners?  Hmmm.  Bure was awhile ago. 
 

Three finalists in a row.    Can’t remember a team that’s done that before - but maybe I’m not paying enough attention. 

 

1 minute ago, Thirston said:

Who’s the second? 

 

Just now, Coconuts said:

Right now, in our lineup

 

Tyler Myers won the Calder as a rookee

This guy gets it.  

 

Some times winning the calder isn't the end all be all

[Dixon Ward]

12 minutes ago, canuckpuckluck15 said:

Two excellent players and I feel Quinn was not robbed, either was a worthy winner. 

What has me stumped is voting.

 

2020 Calder Trophy voting (1st-2nd-3rd-4th-5th)

1. Cale Makar, COL 1,538 (116-54-0-0-0)

2. Quinn Hughes, VAN 1,337 (53-111-6-0-0)

3. Dominik Kubalik, CHI   554 (0-2-75-48-21)

4. Adam Fox, NYR 430 (1-1-45-52-32)

5. Elvis Merzlikins, CBJ 215 (0-1-17-32-27)

6. Mackenzie Blackwood, NJD 164 (0-1-16-15-32)

7. Victor Olofsson, BUF   96 (0-0-5-14-29)

8. John Marino, PIT 53 (0-0-4-5-18)

9. Nick Suzuki, MTL 17 (0-0-1-2-6)

10. Ethan Bear, EDM 9 (0-0-1-1-1)

11. Denis Gurianov, DAL   4 (0-0-0-1-1)

12. Ilya Samsonov, WSH 2 (0-0-0-0-2)

13. Matt Roy, LAK 1 (0-0-0-0-1)

 

The four votes I have highlighted in red....the people who made those votes should NEVER be allowed to vote again, obviously have no idea about the game. Adam Fox better than both Hughes and Makar ( what were they drunk for the last nine months???) Merzlikins and Blackwood better than either Makar or Hughes???? wow these people are out to lunch. 

I can understand the votes for Kubalik but the other three just make me wonder whats going on!!!!

Agreed.  How anyone would put Fox, Merzlikins, or Blackwood ahead of these 2 shows an incredible lack of understanding of how incredible it is for undersized 20 and 21 year old defensemen to be key contributors in the nhl.  

 

I think if you asked any GM who they would want on this list, Hughes would be first.  He is the youngest at 20.  9 of these guys are 3-6 years older than Quinn.

[NewbieCanuckFan]

15 minutes ago, Slegr said:

Hughes deserved it. But on the bright side, it might bring his impending contract down a few dollars next year?

Yup.  The selfish part of me says this *might* mean his contract might be a little cheaper that it would otherwise.  Every dollar helps.

[Rabbit]

I am not surprised to the results, but still feel bad.

[PetterssonOrPeterson]

He wasn't robbed of it. 

You are just extremely biased. 

 

Truth is, Makar had just as good a showing as Hughes and had a better PPG.

 

Mind you, he plays on a team with Mackinnon and Rantanen so that definitely helps, but he was phenomenal this year.

[Provost]

9 minutes ago, Dixon Ward said:

Agreed.  How anyone would put Fox, Merzlikins, or Blackwood ahead of these 2 shows an incredible lack of understanding of how incredible it is for undersized 20 and 21 year old defensemen to be key contributors in the nhl.  

 

I think if you asked any GM who they would want on this list, Hughes would be first.  He is the youngest at 20.  9 of these guys are 3-6 years older than Quinn.

I have heard the radio guys ask a lot of their guests who they would want out of the three young elite D and every one of them said Makar, even the ones who said they would have voted for Hughes as the Calder winner this year.

We don't have to get upset that there are other great young players out there or that it minimizes the fact Hughes is already the best defenceman that has ever been on the team.