wshdrvvn Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 3 minutes ago, bobbyg43 said: curious as to if anyone knows what Coach Green has said about the sniper? I have heard JB comments [I don't think JB has any affection for him playing on big club just trade bait for next draft?] why has he not been given a really good shot at the call up an given a real chance? [ I am not talking injuries here ok] not quite his time yet. I'm of the opinion he still has a lot to learn. Just in the way of consistently competing and not getting away with things he could in junior to score his goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Torts Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Let him become an elite scorer at the pro level before translating it to the NHL. just look at Tyler Johnson, or Gustavo Nyquisto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 3 minutes ago, wshdrvvn said: not quite his time yet. I'm of the opinion he still has a lot to learn. Just in the way of consistently competing and not getting away with things he could in junior to score his goals. If JB can turn Shink into a 2nd rounder at the coming draft that would be AWESOME!!!!! Do it!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyg43 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Just now, Alflives said: If JB can turn Shink into a 2nd rounder at the coming draft that would be AWESOME!!!!! Do it!!!! was he not a 24 th pick when he was taken ? why the one round discount just wondering the rational here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 That has to be a joke alf. Tell me its a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANUCK-EXPRESS Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 5 minutes ago, Alflives said: If JB can turn Shink into a 2nd rounder at the coming draft that would be AWESOME!!!!! Do it!!!! a second rounder? cmon Alf.. Shink was a first round pick and he has lots of potential Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Just now, CANUCK-EXPRESS said: a second rounder? cmon Alf.. Shink was a first round pick and he has lots of potential Baer was picked ten spots higher, has a ton of potential, and we paid a second for him. Then many thought we got ripped off, and wish we had the second back. Why would Hunter be worth any more than Baer was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANUCK-EXPRESS Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 1 minute ago, Alflives said: Baer was picked ten spots higher, has a ton of potential, and we paid a second for him. Then many thought we got ripped off, and wish we had the second back. Why would Hunter be worth any more than Baer was? IMO the second rd pick we traded for Baer was an overpayment by the fact that Baer was probably not going to resign with the Flames. He was handled very poorly over there. Hunter is progressing very well and can be on the team next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 4 minutes ago, The 5th Line said: 2 year age difference for one. Baertschi's stats were trending downwards and was unhappy with Calgary, Shink's stats are trending upwards and he seems to be having a good time in Utica. We also lack skilled forwards, Shink is like our only AHL prospect with any offensive upside So do you think he's worth more than a second? Could we get into the first round for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 11 minutes ago, The 5th Line said: It's not that he's worth more or less, it just doesn't make sense. Why would we trade him? We would need to draft the same type of player with that pick anyways...like I said we have no skilled wingers in the AHL I get it now. This Alien's thinking is being adversely affected by too much chocolate in the bloodstream. We Alfs have more in commom with dogs than just a soft and furry coat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NameFaker Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 19 minutes ago, Alflives said: 39 minutes ago, CANUCK-EXPRESS said: IMO the second rd pick we traded for Baer was an overpayment by the fact that Baer was probably not going to resign with the Flames. He was handled very poorly over there. Hunter is progressing very well and can be on the team next year. I heard that Benning outbid the other GM's, and the majority of them offered third-round picks. So, to me that say he believes a lot in the guy. He was willing to overpay for two reasons I can clearly see. One, it locks the situation in. That's one less thing to think about, so mental freedom was worth more than a good price. Two, it tells Sven he's appreciated by management. That's a big deal to a kid like this, a kid who clearly suffered when Burke demeaned his abilities and character in the media. Confidence from your network is essential to some people's success. He seems like one of those people. I see it as an intelligent move by a psychologically astute scout. Let me put it this way - Benning would never draft Kyle Wellwood. As to Shink, I agree. He's a recovering young man off major surgery still, in my view, since he's way behind on physical development. Too skinny to handle NHL battles now, but that's not a reason to sell him off for a lower pick. That's irrational. Have you noticed how Benning seems to be drafting doubles for each role? Baer - Shink. We already had Cassels - Gaunce. Boeser - Jensen. McCann - Horvat. It's great to see a few guys delineate and change styles, too. Gaunce is becoming more of a power forward on the LW. McCann looks like a much more offensive player than Horvat, though I'm still not sure he's first line material. I'm looking forward to the (hopeful) overload of talent we'll have in half a decade. If Gaunce, Cassels, Shink, Baer, Horvat, McCann, Boeser, Pedan, Trymakin, Neill, Sautner, and Brisebois all make it, we'll be able to move packages for better talent, or more picks, and that sounds entertaining. tl;dr - Benning had good reasons to overpay for Baer. Shink needs time. I hope Benning is a good scout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Prophet Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 4 hours ago, NameFaker said: I heard that Benning outbid the other GM's, and the majority of them offered third-round picks. So, to me that say he believes a lot in the guy. He was willing to overpay for two reasons I can clearly see. One, it locks the situation in. That's one less thing to think about, so mental freedom was worth more than a good price. Two, it tells Sven he's appreciated by management. That's a big deal to a kid like this, a kid who clearly suffered when Burke demeaned his abilities and character in the media. Confidence from your network is essential to some people's success. He seems like one of those people. I see it as an intelligent move by a psychologically astute scout. Let me put it this way - Benning would never draft Kyle Wellwood. As to Shink, I agree. He's a recovering young man off major surgery still, in my view, since he's way behind on physical development. Too skinny to handle NHL battles now, but that's not a reason to sell him off for a lower pick. That's irrational. Have you noticed how Benning seems to be drafting doubles for each role? Baer - Shink. We already had Cassels - Gaunce. Boeser - Jensen. McCann - Horvat. It's great to see a few guys delineate and change styles, too. Gaunce is becoming more of a power forward on the LW. McCann looks like a much more offensive player than Horvat, though I'm still not sure he's first line material. I'm looking forward to the (hopeful) overload of talent we'll have in half a decade. If Gaunce, Cassels, Shink, Baer, Horvat, McCann, Boeser, Pedan, Trymakin, Neill, Sautner, and Brisebois all make it, we'll be able to move packages for better talent, or more picks, and that sounds entertaining. tl;dr - Benning had good reasons to overpay for Baer. Shink needs time. I hope Benning is a good scout. I've always preferred teams that found success through drafting, rather than simply buying in free agency. So I'm pretty happy we're starting to head in that direction, after years of getting rid of our picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gstank29 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 4 point night so far for Shinkaruk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derp... Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Loose puck goal off a nice move by Grenier, and 3 pretty good assists. up to 23 in 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket. Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Love that Shink is tearing it up in the A. So important and promising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 1 hour ago, Derp... said: Loose puck goal off a nice move by Grenier, and 3 pretty good assists. up to 23 in 21 He's still chasing William, the saviour, Nylander. Yes, I know he's a girl, but girls can be saviours too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonecoldstevebernier Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 I don't think I've ever seen anybody celebrate a 7-3 goal harder. His enthusiasm for scoring is something special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nave Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 13 hours ago, Alflives said: Baer was picked ten spots higher, has a ton of potential, and we paid a second for him. Then many thought we got ripped off, and wish we had the second back. Why would Hunter be worth any more than Baer was? Shinkaruk will be better than Baer. His compete level is ridiculous. As a Devil's fan I wanted him at 9, so I was ecstatic when the Canucks got him. He was ranked 6th among NA skaters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.53 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 It's clear he has the major talent. Shooting, passing puck control, high IQ etc. He just needs to hit the gym on a major scale. Call up Brendan Gaunce and Jordan Subban. They'll show you how to hit the weightroom. If Shinkaruk could hit 190, (that's about 10 pounds I believe, which is significant. Don't let anyone tell you that putting on ten pounds of muscle while playing over the season, is an easy feat.) Still, if he could get stronger, and maintain the skills that he has already showed, he could be dangerous. If not, I could see him still doing a Gustav Nyquist like style, where he refines his skills to the absolute max in the AHL, and then explodes onto the NHL scene with massive offensive upside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 8 hours ago, NaveJoseph said: Shinkaruk will be better than Baer. His compete level is ridiculous. As a Devil's fan I wanted him at 9, so I was ecstatic when the Canucks got him. He was ranked 6th among NA skaters. I agree. He has the skill level of Baer but his passion for the game is over the top. That is a winner combo! He had a huge setback with the surgery and is behind in his development, but another offseason will take care of that. He will be an exciting player to watch in the NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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