aGENT Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Markstrom will be better than Lack in the NHL, he’s already better than him, in term of development , than when Lack was at Markstrom’s age. I think so as well...just poking fun of all the people who post garbage like that. Assuming his entire NHL career will be no better than the one bad start he had this season. Then there's the equally insightful stuff like: "Lack hasn't proven he can hold the starter spot." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 I'd like to see a little more progress, or at least have him look more comfortable in his NHL play by this point. I wouldn't be worried if he wasn't winning games, but for all the projections he's had and what we have seen in lower levels I have a little trouble with just how much of a disconnect it seems to be when he plays in the NHL. Maybe it's all mental, and he's a good goalie, but I'm not in a rush to say he is and will be batter than Lack until he proves a little more. And that's coming from one of the people who were on board with a Lack/Markstrom combo last summer instead of signing Miller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobart16 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 If this report is true, they are making room for Marky. http://frozenfutures.com/2015/05/31/canucks-seeking-second-rounder-for-lack/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 He's showing great strides in Utica this year. I think its time to give him a fair shake at a goaltending spot in Vancouver. Let Miller ease Markstrom into the starting role. If it doesn't work out there'll be viable stop gap goalies until Demko is ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 (edited) If this report is true, they are making room for Marky. http://frozenfutures.com/2015/05/31/canucks-seeking-second-rounder-for-lack/ The Ottawa Sun and Bruce Garrioch, however, which is what they base that speculation on, is one of the worst pseudo sources out there. The Canucks 'could' seek a 2nd for Lack - weak. They 'could' seek a pick for Miller as well. Edited June 2, 2015 by oldnews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstewboy Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 If this report is true, they are making room for Marky. http://frozenfutures.com/2015/05/31/canucks-seeking-second-rounder-for-lack/ That's just a regurgitated story that has been run a couple times in the last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakyWalton Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 That's just a regurgitated story that has been run a couple times in the last week. and also written like a grade school essay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
two drink minimum Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 Markstrom will be better than Lack in the NHL, he’s already better than him, in term of development , than when Lack was at Markstrom’s age.The team Markstrom has in front of him now is way better than Lacks teams in the A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 I know it's highly unlikely but what about trading Miller to SJ and going with a Markstrom Lack tandem and ride the hot hand? Play one goalie consecutively until they lose. We save miller's cap hit as well as pick up a late first or early second as well as getting younger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 I know it's highly unlikely but what about trading Miller to SJ and going with a Markstrom Lack tandem and ride the hot hand? Play one goalie consecutively until they lose. We save miller's cap hit as well as pick up a late first or early second as well as getting younger That's what a lot of us are hoping for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 (edited) That's what a lot of us are hoping for. I'd just hope that before making such a gamble Trader Jim would give Jacob a series of NHL starts against stronger competition to truly prove his top-level potential, since betting on AHL stardom could lead to us having our own Justin Pogge (successful in lower levels but unable to cut it in the big leagues) and trading Lack too early could leave us without a capable NHL backup to bail Ryan out on his off nights. Jacob still needs to prove he's really capable, after 50 games of experience, instead of having the job handed to him when he's dominated in a top developmental league, since NHL players are ultimately much better than AHL guys. Case in point, his first start last season, when he let three of the four shots he faced go in against San Jose, should at least raise some eyebrows about his ability to play in the NHL. Another thing, since NHL teams often play back-to-back's there's quite the likelihood that he'd have to take on a tough team behind his own tired team from time to time, and you can't always expect the starter to come in and bail you out like he did in San Jose. What's more, what would we do if Lack gets injured (presuming Miller's traded) and Jacob has to come in, but he gets shellacked? Who will step in and stop the bleeding then, if he's not ready? Ultimately, until I see an NHL-level Ben Bishop in Markstrom I wouldn't be sold solely on his potential to reach that elite level. Call me conservative but until that time I hope we keep Lack, since he's really not much older than Jacob but we at least know what we've got. Edited June 2, 2015 by Phil_314 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 The team Markstrom has in front of him now is way better than Lacks teams in the A The team Schneider had in front of him at the NHL level was way better than the team Lack had. Schneider got traded for a 9th overall pick. I'd just hope that before making such a gamble Trader Jim would give Jacob a series of NHL starts against stronger competition to truly prove his top-level potential, since betting on AHL stardom could lead to us having our own Justin Pogge (successful in lower levels but unable to cut it in the big leagues) and trading Lack too early could leave us without a capable NHL backup to bail Ryan out on his off nights. Jacob still needs to prove he's really capable, after 50 games of experience, instead of having the job handed to him when he's dominated in a top developmental league, since NHL players are ultimately much better than AHL guys. Case in point, his first start last season, when he let three of the four shots he faced go in against San Jose, should at least raise some eyebrows about his ability to play in the NHL. Another thing, since NHL teams often play back-to-back's there's quite the likelihood that he'd have to take on a tough team behind his own tired team from time to time, and you can't always expect the starter to come in and bail you out like he did in San Jose. What's more, what would we do if Lack gets injured (presuming Miller's traded) and Jacob has to come in, but he gets shellacked? Who will step in and stop the bleeding then, if he's not ready? Ultimately, until I see an NHL-level Ben Bishop in Markstrom I wouldn't be sold solely on his potential to reach that elite level. Call me conservative but until that time I hope we keep Lack, since he's really not much older than Jacob but we at least know what we've got. The thing about goalies is it's all mental. The skill set is there we just need to build his confidence at the NHL level. you don't do that by throwing him in games like the SJ game. You do it by starting him off in games like the ARZ game. We don't need him to take over next year. With Millers contract we have two years to groom him. Ease him in, and watch him become a top NHL goalie. I understand why WD put Markstrom in against the Sharks, Lack just played two stinkers the 2 games prior, but it was not a good move to give him his first NHL start against a desperate hockey club. The time when we need him to do that will come just not yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuckin Kingsly Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 (edited) Huge shutout tonight for marky, 2-0 win with 21 saves. Comets are off to the finals!! Edited June 3, 2015 by Virtanen The Great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amish Rake Fighter Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 2 shutout elimination games in the playoffs now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derp... Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Boom! Stellar game from the Comets tonight Marky had some good saves, but really the team D was super solid. Him stealing game 5 made this possible though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 A shutout last series to move on (came in game 7), a shut out again tonight to "move on." Talk about clutch goal tending. Even if he loses in the finals, he's already done everything he can to be given a shot at the NHL Level next year. I recall, Cory Schneider's final year in the AHL , the Moose made it to the finals but lost in game 6 in O.T. Schneider was also lights out, during their playoff run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I'd just hope that before making such a gamble Trader Jim would give Jacob a series of NHL starts against stronger competition to truly prove his top-level potential, since betting on AHL stardom could lead to us having our own Justin Pogge (successful in lower levels but unable to cut it in the big leagues) and trading Lack too early could leave us without a capable NHL backup to bail Ryan out on his off nights. Jacob still needs to prove he's really capable, after 50 games of experience, instead of having the job handed to him when he's dominated in a top developmental league, since NHL players are ultimately much better than AHL guys. Case in point, his first start last season, when he let three of the four shots he faced go in against San Jose, should at least raise some eyebrows about his ability to play in the NHL. Too late for that. By the time next season starts, either they roll with three goaltenders on the roster or they risk losing one for nothing. Someone will be traded in the off-season, likely at the draft as Benning already indicated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I like Marks composure in this run, very calm and contained, except for maybe a couple of early forays out of his crease at the start of games. He's definitally making a statement for his bid to be with the big club next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniwaki Canuck Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 A shutout last series to move on (came in game 7), a shut out again tonight to "move on." Talk about clutch goal tending. Even if he loses in the finals, he's already done everything he can to be given a shot at the NHL Level next year. I recall, Cory Schneider's final year in the AHL , the Moose made it to the finals but lost in game 6 in O.T. Schneider was also lights out, during their playoff run. Good comparison. And like Markstrom, Schneider also had some bad starts at the NHL before that Calder Cup run, although not as many. But it did take Cory a few years of being a top AHL goalie before he was ready for the NHL. It certainly looks as though Markstrom has it down mentally and technically at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Markstrom ready now to play in NHL - Jim Benning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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