[Waivers] Zalewski, Pedan, Megna, Chaput

[Spoosh]

Not a big loss since we had to do something but I'd much rather he clears and has a good season in Utica and can possibly challenge for a spot next year.

[combover]

1 hour ago, captainhorvat said:

Lol at the people praying that pedan clears waivers...he hasnt shown anything and can easily be replaced. 

At the cost of yet another draft pick. lol. Great way to run a team trade picks to replace players lost on waivers that you traded draft picks to get. Brilliant. 

[ForsbergTheGreat]

Just now, J.R. said:

 

 

 

 

Why are we concerned about Pedan getting more minutes?  What are we hoping he develops into?  We don’t really expect him more than a 4-6 spot do we?  Something he’s pretty close to being at currently. 

If Pedan does get claimed, it will be an error on mgmt. End of the world? No but it’s still a risk that didn’t need to be taken.  

Stecher is the guy we want to make sure is getting big, meaningful, minutes.  Why not just start Stecher in the AHL, and if Larsen begins to fail then we can call Stecher up.  Larsen has one year on his deal to prove what he’s worth, give him till Christmas, with actually opportunity and by then we should have enough of a look to see his play.  Christmas also gives Stecher some time to adjust to the pro game, (weekdays, travel).  He will be getting big minutes in the A and we can see how he handles it. 

 

By Christmas we will also have a better idea on which players could be moved to open up room for Stecher is he continues to prove his worth in the AHL. 

[aGENT]

2 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said:

Why are we concerned about Pedan getting more minutes?  What are we hoping he develops into?  We don’t really expect him more than a 4-6 spot do we?  Something he’s pretty close to being at currently. 

If Pedan does get claimed, it will be an error on mgmt. End of the world? No but it’s still a risk that didn’t need to be taken.  

Stecher is the guy we want to make sure is getting big, meaningful, minutes.  Why not just start Stecher in the AHL, and if Larsen begins to fail then we can call Stecher up.  Larsen has one year on his deal to prove what he’s worth, give him till Christmas, with actually opportunity and by then we should have enough of a look to see his play.  Christmas also gives Stecher some time to adjust to the pro game, (weekdays, travel).  He will be getting big minutes in the A and we can see how he handles it. 

 

By Christmas we will also have a better idea on which players could be moved to open up room for Stecher is he continues to prove his worth in the AHL. 

 

 

 

Because Pedan would be #8 and barely see the ice. That's not going to help him become a 4-6 D.

 

If Pedan gets claimed, it's cost of doing business and having good D depth. There isn't room for everyone.

 

Because Stetcher has (so far) earned a spot. Period. 

[captainhorvat]

5 minutes ago, combover said:

At the cost of yet another draft pick. lol. Great way to run a team trade picks to replace players lost on waivers that you traded draft picks to get. Brilliant. 

Lets see if he clears before we get into that asset management conversation. if he clears we dont end up wastin that 3rd pick along with mallet. Brilliant!

[ForsbergTheGreat]

2 minutes ago, J.R. said:

 

Because Pedan would be #8 and barely see the ice. That's not going to help him become a 4-6 D.

 

If Pedan gets claimed, it's cost of doing business and having good D depth. There isn't room for everyone.

 

Because Stetcher has (so far) earned a spot. Period. 

Pedan is pretty close to being a 4-6 D.  He will fill in for injuries, which will happen and come in for game when we need a bigger lineup.  That's why JB wanted to take 8 D.  Why role with 8 D when Biega (a guy who'd we'd have little risk of being claimed) is that 8th guy.  It's a waste of a roster spot. 

 

It was an unnecessary risk. and poor asset management.  Again whats the goal of going with 8 D then?

 

But Stecher needs development we have higher expectations for him over Pedan.  Stecher is also an unknown.  A couple months helps clear any questions we have and allows us to make smart calculated moves rather than rushed poor moves.

[WhoseTruckWasIt]

1 hour ago, Blue Jay 22 said:

 

Like what?

Some theoretical future where he's not a liability.  It could be next year, but I'm not convinced he has the right attitude.

[WhoseTruckWasIt]

Tolja!!!

[elvis15]

 

[WhoseTruckWasIt]

1 hour ago, Misconduct16 said:

Keeping biega with the Expansion Draft in mind is a terrible decision.... and further proof of the terrible asset management of the Canucks.

BUT, I will say, that if the decision was made so that he can get minutes in Utica and develop instead of sitting in the pressbox is good for him, just wish the team had given him a fair shake in the preseason.

I think they kept him with playing solid defense with injuries in mind.  Last year he showed a serious level of reliability that makes his preseason performance less important.  

 

Regardless of the anticipated season-long injury to Sbisa, someone that we can live with losing will have played enough games, be it Sbisa, Pedan, Larsen, Sautner, or Billins, or whomever else we feel like grabbing.  I think we can rest easy that this move is not an insurance policy for the expansion draft.  But that's the beauty of Biega.  He's happy to sit without sulking and he'd be happy to be exposed.  Which of Biega and Pedan seems more of a team guy?

[Maniwaki Canuck]

1 hour ago, shayster007 said:

Leafs claim him. Calling it now

If not them then Edmonton.  The "lol" crowd may find out what the fuss is about when we have to play against him on a regular basis.

I get it that we have lots of depth and he needs to play, but Pedan's upside is a whole lot higher than a replacement level player like Corrado.  This would be a loss to the organization. 

[WhoseTruckWasIt]

1 hour ago, Rocksterh8 said:

He's bigger, tougher and younger than all  three of those guys and he's getting hard to play against in his own end and he will clear the front of the net more than any other player except maybe Gudy.

I love how on-ice performance is the last factor that Pedan fans want to consider.  Please, someone list his vitals again.  I forget, was he young, or big? 

 

Yes his lateral movement has improved.  It still ain't pretty.  Maybe next year.  Let's hope he kicks ass in Utica and gets a solid call-up.

[ForsbergTheGreat]

1 minute ago, WhoseTruckWasIt said:

I think they kept him with playing solid defense with injuries in mind.  Last year he showed a serious level of reliability that makes his preseason performance less important.  

 

Regardless of the anticipated season-long injury to Sbisa, someone that we can live with losing will have played enough games, be it Sbisa, Pedan, Larsen, Sautner, or Billins, or whomever else we feel like grabbing.  I think we can rest easy that this move is not an insurance policy for the expansion draft.  But that's the beauty of Biega.  He's happy to sit without sulking and he'd be happy to be exposed.  Which of Biega and Pedan seems more of a team guy?

Why carry 8 D then?  Why not just wait till an injury(s) happen and then call him up when needed.  It's not like canucks have to worry about him getting claimed. He's a waste of a spot on 23 man roster.

[riffraff]

6 minutes ago, elvis15 said:

 

 

Ok Murphz

[bobbyg43]

How soon do we find out if PEdan makes it thru waivers without a claim on him or makes it to Utica

[aGENT]

11 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said:

Pedan is pretty close to being a 4-6 D.  He will fill in for injuries, which will happen and come in for game when we need a bigger lineup.  That's why JB wanted to take 8 D.  Why role with 8 D when Biega (a guy who'd we'd have little risk of being claimed) is that 8th guy.  It's a waste of a roster spot. 

 

It was an unnecessary risk. and poor asset management.  Again whats the goal of going with 8 D then?

 

But Stecher needs development we have higher expectations for him over Pedan.  Stecher is also an unknown.  A couple months helps clear any questions we have and allows us to make smart calculated moves rather than rushed poor moves.

 

Sorry, that's Tryamkin's spot and role. And he can still be recalled (if he passes) to cover multiple injuries.

 

Unnecessary in your opinion. Pedan is behind Sbisa and Tryamkin in left side depth and redundant behind Gudbranson, Sbisa and Tryamkin as the 'big physical guy' role. He's redundant and wasn't supplanting any of those guys. He also needs playing time. All of that = Utica.

 

Does Stetcher? He's passed the eye test (so far anyway). Have you looked at his advanced stats and usage? They're arguably even more impressive. Again, he's (so far) earned a spot. Period. From here on out, it's up to him to keep it.

[ForsbergTheGreat]

7 minutes ago, elvis15 said:

 

Barberio is closer to Beiga than Pedan.

 

 

 

[WhoseTruckWasIt]

Just now, ForsbergTheGreat said:

Why carry 8 D then?  Why not just wait till an injury(s) happen and then call him up when needed.  It's not like canucks have to worry about him getting claimed. He's a waste of a spot on 23 man roster.

That's a good point.  But if you look at the last two years, we often lose dmen at a rate that makes it tough to gets call-ups in time.  They've identified this as a priority.  I suspect that there is a leadership, attitude, and culture element here too.

[WhoseTruckWasIt]

1 minute ago, ForsbergTheGreat said:

Barberio is closer to Beiga than Pedan.

 

 

 

In other words, a coach can trust him out there.

[coryberg]

2 hours ago, I.Am.Ironman said:

Once Biega plays enough games he is eligible to be exposed in the expansion draft

he will be eligible for the expansion draft either way. just because he doesn't get the 70 games doesn't mean he cant be picked. otherwise teams would just bury their eligible players for a year.