JM_ Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 46 minutes ago, 73 Percent said: For now. can it still change? whats the range? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Robert Long said: can it still change? whats the range? By making the post-season it's earliest 16th and latest 31st. Depends on when teams are eliminated but Arizona, Chicago, Montreal, Calgary are ranked lower than the Canucks. They would pick ahead if they are eliminated at the same stage of the competition. One of those teams is moving to 1st overall. Here's the order and the latest spot they'll pick at. 9 Minnesota 10 Winnipeg 11 Rangers 12 Nashville 13 Florida 14 Columbus or Toronto 15 Edmonton 15 Pittsburgh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 2 hours ago, Robert Long said: can it still change? whats the range? The range is 16-31, which are the last 16 teams still in the playoffs. The order of those picks depends on how the playoffs go. If we win the next round our pick would jump into the 20's, between 24-31. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 Yeah the Canucks won this trade. You would be thrilled if you could get a top 10 player in the draft to perform and become what Miller is now. The further the Canucks go the better and better this trade will look for Benning and the Canucks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24K PureCool Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 3 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: The range is 16-31, which are the last 16 teams still in the playoffs. The order of those picks depends on how the playoffs go. If we win the next round our pick would jump into the 20's, between 24-31. I think pick order only moves if a team makes it to the conference final. Getting eliminated from round 1 or round 2 makes no difference to the draft order unless they change it this time around due to Covid. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 1 hour ago, 24K PureCool said: I think pick order only moves if a team makes it to the conference final. Getting eliminated from round 1 or round 2 makes no difference to the draft order unless they change it this time around due to Covid. Yes you are correct, with the caveat that it also includes whether you won your division: The basic order of the NHL Entry Draft is determined based on the standings of the teams in the previous season. As with the other major sports leagues, the basic draft order is intended to favour the teams with the weakest performance who presumably need the most improvement in their roster to compete with the other teams. Subject to the results of the NHL Draft Lottery (discussed below), the teams pick in the same order each round, with each team getting one pick per round. The basic order of the picks is determined as follows:[9] The teams that did not qualify for the playoffs the previous season (picks 1–15) The teams that made the playoffs in the previous season but did not win either their division in the regular season or play in the Conference Finals (picks 16–23 up to 27) The teams that won their divisions in the previous season but did not play in the Conference Finals (potentially picks 24–27) The teams that lose in Conference Finals (picks 28 and 29) The team that was the runner-up in the Stanley Cup Finals (pick 30) The team that won the Stanley Cup in the previous season (pick 31) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, mll said: By making the post-season it's earliest 16th and latest 31st. Depends on when teams are eliminated but Arizona, Chicago, Montreal, Calgary are ranked lower than the Canucks. They would pick ahead if they are eliminated at the same stage of the competition. One of those teams is moving to 1st overall. Here's the order and the latest spot they'll pick at. 9 Minnesota 10 Winnipeg 11 Rangers 12 Nashville 13 Florida 14 Columbus or Toronto 15 Edmonton 15 Pittsburgh Pittsburgh is getting Lafreniere. Because it’s Pittsburgh. Edited August 8, 2020 by Me_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, flickyoursedin said: Yeah the Canucks won this trade. You would be thrilled if you could get a top 10 player in the draft to perform and become what Miller is now. The further the Canucks go the better and better this trade will look for Benning and the Canucks. I wouldn’t want to take anything away from anyone who was involved in big trades including the Naslund, the Luongo and the Sedin draft trade. But when all is said and done, this may be the best Canucks trade ever. Edited August 8, 2020 by Me_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peaches5 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Me_ said: I wouldn’t want to take anything away from anyone who was involved in big trades including the Naslund, the Luongo and the Sedin draft trade. But when all is said and done, this may be the best Canucks trade ever. No. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted August 9, 2020 Author Share Posted August 9, 2020 18 hours ago, iinatcc said: I now officially approve this trade I could see this thread being active until J.T. Miller retires, similar to the Burrows? Do We Really Need Him? thread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HC20.0 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 18 hours ago, 24K PureCool said: I think pick order only moves if a team makes it to the conference final. Getting eliminated from round 1 or round 2 makes no difference to the draft order unless they change it this time around due to Covid. Yes, with Arizona, Chicago, and Montreal all advancing, I believe we would have been picking at 19. Here’s hoping we can bump that up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 (edited) Naslund for Stojanov was the best. And I won't lie, I loved how Stojanov played. I was quite shocked. Because he was a wrecking ball. Then after about 20 games I didn't care about Stojanov. To think Quinn followed this up with signing of he who will not be named. I admire Gino even more saying signing #11 was a disaster. "Tom Renney would call a line up out and #11 would just jump on the ice". Insisted on played 25 minutes a night, when he physically couldn't do that. I know Gino respects the hell of out Pat Quinn, it must of have hurt everyone having a crushing ego like that on the team. https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/gino-odjick-calls-out-mark-messier-canucks#.XzAcUkoD5s4.link Edited August 9, 2020 by Ghostsof1915 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 1 hour ago, HC20.0 said: Yes, with Arizona, Chicago, and Montreal all advancing, I believe we would have been picking at 19. Here’s hoping we can bump that up! Sadly, even if the Canucks pick last (Meaning we won the Stanley Cup). I bet HF boards and the hate Benning crowd will still say it's a lousy trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 Linden to NYI was an amazing return, bearing gifts to this very day. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Smashian Kassian Posted August 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 10, 2020 This trade literially couldn't have gone better. Even the most optimistic fans couldn't have predicted him doing/fitting this good. I was wrong. It's been an A+ trade so far. Benning deserves some credit for the success this team has had this year. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 On 8/8/2020 at 4:50 PM, Me_ said: I wouldn’t want to take anything away from anyone who was involved in big trades including the Naslund, the Luongo and the Sedin draft trade. But when all is said and done, this may be the best Canucks trade ever. Only way this beats the Naslund trade is if the pick doesn't make the NHL. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post flickyoursedin Posted August 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 10, 2020 9 minutes ago, coryberg said: Only way this beats the Naslund trade is if the pick doesn't make the NHL. Yeah I think people forget the Naslund trade. The guy we traded for Naslund finished out the season then quit hockey to become a firefighter. Naslund was a 12 year Canuck and had some very good years. I know I’ll be flamed for it but Linden was low key one of the best trades the Canucks ever made. I get that the way it was done I didn’t like and Messier. Linden found his way back home years later. Vancouver got Bertuzzi, McCabe and a 3rd rounder (Ruutu). From those guys Vancouver flipped McCabe for 3rd overall (which was Henrik Sedin) and Bertuzzi was traded for Luongo and then Luongo was traded for Markstrom. 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 No question Naslund was the best trade of all time. Even considering just Benning's trades, I might have the Pearson trade ahead. Miller is a better player obviously, but we did pay a considerable price to get him. A mid 1st rounder isn't nothing. The Pearson trade was not only getting a piece we desperately needed, but we also offloaded a problematic player/contract that was thought to be an anchor. That was A+ in every regard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNucks1 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 JT is the man and pearson is decent, i tried too cheer for guddy, but just couldnt get it done... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BCNate Posted August 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 10, 2020 We got Miller, Toffoli, and Pearson for Gudbranson, Schaller, Madden, 2019 71st, 2020 19th pick, 50th pick (highest, could drop to later picks) over the past 2 years. 3 top 6 forwards for 2 waiver/cap dump level players, a B prospect, and 3 picks. Benning has done a hell of a job as of late. 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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