Popular Post Jester13 Posted September 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2019 36 minutes ago, Rush17 said: I don't think Bo should be captain. If it happens I'll support him but he isn't even our top 3 players in raw skill. Boeser, Pettersson, and Hughes all have more hockey talent. They are all younger and have many more years to grow. Bo is like our first born son. Just because he is older and more advanced doesn't mean he is the best candidate. I don't think the fourth or fifth best player on a team should be named captain. I believe it should be one of your tip top players. If we want to get Pettersson signed at a reasonable term captaincy imo could be a good bargaining chip. I don't see Bo getting the C. I believe Jim and Travis believe Petey is the answer. They will want to give him more time tho. 10 minutes ago, Rush17 said: Be neutral about it. You can say it would be an honour but don't act like you want it. A leader shouldn't want to be a leader. A leader should just be a leader imo. He's a good guy no doubt. I think his fathers comments have skewed me the most on the matter lol. Here is his dads comment: Sounds like it may have been phrased as a question. Something I may have missed at the time. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to captain material, and your knee-jerk reaction to Bo's dad's comment is soooooo far off base that it's laughable. The Horvat family is full of pride, honour, and hard work, which is what a captain should be, as it's what teammates can look up to and follow as an example; not the most skilled - and yet, Bo is one of our most skilled players as an ideal 200ft NHL player. Bo has been getting groomed to be our next captain since he arrived and showed he's captain material. They've merely been waiting for our 50th anniversary to name him. Seriously, this thread is a new low. Time for me to go eat my lunch, because this thread has brought out some serious hangry pangs. 2 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted September 5, 2019 Author Share Posted September 5, 2019 My original post is more about my frustration with the Bo is our captain movement. I wish he would be a better leader and be more neutral on the matter. Bo is a good leader no question. But I don't think rushing the decision is wise. 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post theo5789 Posted September 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2019 Bo's nickname is the Ox because he carries the team on his back. Teammates have called him Cap, what could that mean? He actually wants to be the captain? Blasphemy. EP is great and I love his work ethic too, but I rather he focus his skills on the ice rather than deal with the ridiculous media. Bo gives them nothing, while the media will try to get a death stare from EP for the rest of his career. EP is a leader on the team and you don't need to be the captain to be one. Look at McDavid and Eichel who they're thrusted the captaincy on at a young age simply because they were supposedly the best players. Doesn't accomplish much. I would say the history of captains on Stanley Cup teams aren't necessarily the top players on their respective teams, so skill simply should have no bearing on the decision. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted September 5, 2019 Author Share Posted September 5, 2019 I believe this is an important conversation to have. I am okay with me looking like a fool is how we have this conversation. I don't have care my public image lol. My point is.. I don't think we as a fanbase should be saying Bo should or is our next captain. Let's let coach and team decide what is best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhorvat Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 I can guarantee that Bo will be named captain this season. Jim Benning revealed that he spoke to Greener about this issue. And Greener revealed that he wants a captain going into this season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MeanSeanBean Posted September 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2019 28 minutes ago, Rush17 said: Be neutral about it. You can say it would be an honour but don't act like you want it. A leader shouldn't want to be a leader. A leader should just be a leader imo. He's a good guy no doubt. I think his fathers comments have skewed me the most on the matter lol. Here is his dads comment: Sounds like it may have been phrased as a question. Something I may have missed at the time. Shame on his Dad for thinking his son would make a great captain (which is the same thinking as everyone else who has watched him develop as a Canuck) 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goal:thecup Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Rush17 said: I believe this is an important conversation to have. I am okay with me looking like a fool is how we have this conversation. I don't have care my public image lol. My point is.. I don't think we as a fanbase should be saying Bo should or is our next captain. Let's let coach and team decide what is best. Who cares what YOU believe, if you believe crap like this is "important"? Who cares what YOU think "we as a fan base should be saying"? This is a crap thread compounded by your crap responses. Quit starting new threads; give us all a break. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Rush17 said: To be honest Phillip Bo has been one of my favorite players. It isn't an axe to grind with Horvat. It's rather that I feel its unfair for us all to label him as the air apparent. I have made this claim for 2 years now.. I don't think saying Bo should be the captain is the right idea when we have so many talented young players still joining the team. Do you honestly think that fans discussing Horvat's suitableness for captaincy has any effect or sway with Aqulini, Benning, and Green? I don't. Quote The next core is just arriving in the NHL.. I think it a touch early to start naming the oldest core player as the next captain. Bo was an icon and a symbol of hope for our franchise. He represented the youth movement that is now emerging. He has been our knight in shining armor. But I don't believe he should just be given the C because he's been there for us in hard times. He has provided a lot of hope and optimism for our fanbase.. trust me we have needed it. But I want this decision to be based on what is best for the long term success of this franchise. I want a dynasty with this group.. I don't think naming your 2nd line C the captain for the reasons above is a good idea. If the team deems him the best choice I will 100% support him! I just don't like the undying loyalty to Bo. Lets see how the other kids do and see who becomes the teams true leader. Bo's performance on the ice and in front of the media makes him an ideal candidate, in my opinion. If he is given the C, it'll be because of those aspects of his overall body of work, and not because of where he fits in chronologically. In my humble opinion, a team captain represents the team on a whole and isn't always the team's best player. Is Shea Weber the best player on the Canadiens? Bo's been the transitional leader from the older core to the newer one, and has never let up or lost focus. When Desjardins spoke about him as being a fourth line grinder, he took that on and persevered, never complaining to the press. There will be a team captain this fall, by all accounts, and the probability of Bo being the captain is pretty high. I don't see that being a detraction or distraction to the team at all. Edited September 5, 2019 by PhillipBlunt 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckNORRIS4Cup Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Personally this no Captain crap by Vancouver Management last year has been more of a joke and just has created more drama regarding it then good imo. How do you blame a player who by the looks of it last year was basically groomed by Vancouver to show he will be the next Captain, but Vancouver still didn't give it to him, then when asked about it what's he supposed to say, no I don't want it stop asking me about it..... Then what you attack him for saying no he doesn't want it... Can't believe the OP actually attacked BO regarding this matter when it's Management who has made the problem in the first place, but hey let's blame the player instead 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 (edited) Nothing wrong with the guy stepping up and saying he wants to lead the team. I'm actually happy he did so. Just the media doing what they do best and trying to create controversy when it isn't there. OP fell for the bait hook, line, and sinker. Edited September 5, 2019 by King Heffy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted September 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2019 (edited) Strange thread. I’d have a problem too if (and this is a big “if”) Horvat was out there openly campaigning for the captaincy in the media and continually telling people he’s the best man for the job and that it’s time and he really deserves it. But he’s not doing that. Not even close. Bo will answer the question when asked, but he’s never the one bringing it up. And when asked, he’s actually quite measured in his responses, and pretty careful not to say anything controversial. I don’t know what else we can expect of the young man. And quite honestly, I feel like Horvat has handled questions from media regarding team leadership and the captaincy like, well... pretty much how you’d want the team’s captain to answer these kinds of questions. The boys all call him “Cap” already. He’s been part of the leadership group pretty much since he arrived in Vancouver his rookie year. The Sedins have suggested several times he’s the heir apparent. He’s been the transitional leader for this team, and, having been around for a while now (5 seasons—my, how time flies) has really become a link between the old guard and the new kids. He’s been serving as the de facto “captain” for a while now. Everyone knows it. Everyone feels it. And it would seem, everyone, in the room anyway (which is what’s really important), respects and appreciates Horvat’s leadership and sees him as their captain. So really, when Horvat gets asked about the captaincy, how is this a “gross” response: “I'd be ready to make that next step. It wouldn't change who I am and it wouldn't change the type of player I want to be ... I'd just try to be the best leader I can be." For me, he’s saying exactly what he should. He’s ready. Of course he’s ready. He’s already basically been doing the job for this team. He wouldn’t change the type of player he wants to be. The “wants to be” part is crucial here. Bo isn’t saying he doesn’t need to change and improve. He’s saying that his goals, as far as the player he wants to be, aren’t really affected by the captaincy. He wants to be the best player he can be. That includes being a player who deserves to wear the “C,” but he will challenge himself be that kind of player (and leader) regardless of whether or not he’s ever actually named captain. He’s going to just try to the the best leader he can be. Simple as that. Horvat will do the best he can for this team. If he’s ever officially asked to wear the “C,” he’s ready and will take on that mantle. But whatever happens, he’s going to strive to be the best player he can for his team, and the best leader he can be, on and off the ice. Total class from Horvat IMO. Nothing “gross” here. Edited September 5, 2019 by SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Weird typos 4 1 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'NucK™ Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Rush17 said: Be neutral about it. You can say it would be an honour but don't act like you want it. A leader shouldn't want to be a leader. A leader should just be a leader imo. How is he not being neutral about it?? "I'd be ready to make that next step." - neutral version = I'm not sure if I'd be ready to be captain? "It wouldn't change who I am and it wouldn't change the type of player I want to be ... I'd just try to be the best leader I can be." - can't even think of a more neutral version of that quote.. You are really reaching here man.... 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Rush17 said: It's rather that I feel its unfair for us all to label him as the air apparent. I have made this claim for 2 years now.. I don't think saying Bo should be the captain is the right idea when we have so many talented young players still joining the team. The next core is just arriving in the NHL.. I actually agree with you on this, and it has nothing to do with how I feel about Bo being captain or him as a leader. He was being hailed as the next captain from the first season when he was the only young player representing the future. He was here nearly three full seasons before the real youth movement started to arrive. Labeling him the heir apparent so early really left no room for another potential captain to emerge. That is unfair to the overall process of allowing the captain to emerge organically and give other players/leaders a fair shake. I think Bo would make a great captain. I also think Pettersson would make a great captain. Who knows, Hughes could be also be C material along with others who aren't here yet. I get what you're saying. And that's not to say Horvat shouldn't be C. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Rush17 said: My original post is more about my frustration with the Bo is our captain movement. I wish he would be a better leader and be more neutral on the matter. Bo is a good leader no question. But I don't think rushing the decision is wise. I was originally on the "Bo is our Captain" movement for awhile to and I have realized that it is a position that dictates what the team culture is going to be like and I don't think It should be taken lightly. It has been thrown around so quickly around here that our goalie was given it for a spell. Really? I really think the playoffs will bring out the true "Leaders" and this is where we should be seeing who should don the "C". We are not considered "contenders" yet so I don't see what the big rush is. No pun intended. Let it happen naturally and let see what the final product is looking like before we make any hasty decisions. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SergioMomesso Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 I was at the game when Henrik was given the captaincy way back in 2010. Too bad the team starts on the road this year or I would be ok with them putting on the same type of show they did with Henrik. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SergioMomesso Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Why can't they just tape a "C" on a different player every game like they do in Atom's? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herberts Vasiljevs Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Omg it's Marner's dad's fault!!!! Omg it's Horvat's dad's fault!!!! Omg it's Nylander's dad's fault!!!! Omg it's Hodgson's dad's fault!!!! F%*$ you dad!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 1 minute ago, SergioMomesso said: Why can't they just tape a "C" on a different player every game like they do in Atom's? Lol ... captaincy by participation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueDragon23 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 The media is bringing this up, not so much him. And he’s ready to embrace it, and all his teammates call him “Cap” because they respect him and his work ethic. Is there anyone else really ready for that responsibility? Not that I can see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 17 minutes ago, EdgarM said: I was originally on the "Bo is our Captain" movement for awhile to and I have realized that it is a position that dictates what the team culture is going to be like and I don't think It should be taken lightly. It has been thrown around so quickly around here that our goalie was given it for a spell. Really? I really think the playoffs will bring out the true "Leaders" and this is where we should be seeing who should don the "C". We are not considered "contenders" yet so I don't see what the big rush is. No pun intended. Let it happen naturally and let see what the final product is looking like before we make any hasty decisions. Bo has been on the team for 6 years and we had no captain last season, how would naming him captain this year be a “hasty decision?” 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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