HKSR Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 So does he become a UFA after another year? If so, I'd be surprised to see him in a Canuck uniform again. Think about it from his perspective... he had basically publicly stated he wants to rejoin the Canucks, and instead of signing him, the Canucks went on to sign Rathbone (which is the smart move btw) instead. If any other team wants him, I'm sure he'll be more than happy to just move onto another team. It's not like there is loyalty here from either party. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, mll said: That's not an option. He is a RFA and has to be signed by a certain date. In the past RFAs had to be signed by 1 December or they couldn't play for the remainder of the season. The recently approved CBA MOU has a tentative start date to next season of 1 December - that would mean a signing sometime in the 2nd half of January at the latest for RFAs. His KHL season will still be underway. He can't play in the NHL next season unless his KHL contract has an out-clause, which is doubtful, so he can meet that RFA signing deadline. Forgot about that (no coffee yet). But with start dates still quite up in the air, who knows what will happen? Maybe the K shuts down? Maybe the NHL starts later? Maybe the deadline gets pushed to match the end of the K season? Nobody knows much of anything at this point. Either way, Tryamkin made his bed. It was his decision to leave in the first place. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickenspear Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, HKSR said: So does he become a UFA after another year? If so, I'd be surprised to see him in a Canuck uniform again. Think about it from his perspective... he had basically publicly stated he wants to rejoin the Canucks, and instead of signing him, the Canucks went on to sign Rathbone (which is the smart move btw) instead. If any other team wants him, I'm sure he'll be more than happy to just move onto another team. It's not like there is loyalty here from either party. He's an RFA until August 30th 2021. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, mll said: That's not an option. He is a RFA and has to be signed by a certain date. In the past RFAs had to be signed by 1 December or they couldn't play for the remainder of the season. The recently approved CBA MOU has a tentative start date to next season of 1 December - that would mean a signing sometime in the 2nd half of January at the latest for RFAs. His KHL season will still be underway. He can't play in the NHL next season unless his KHL contract has an out-clause, which is doubtful, so he can meet that RFA signing deadline. Presumably they will make the adjusted date prior to the end of the KHL season so they don't end up with a bunch of extra players parachuting into the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 It was going to be tough to sign him with everything that is going on. The fact he can play almost a whole season of hockey in the KHL before the NHL even starts (if it starts), is a big deal. This way he comes back in a year along with a fellow Russian Podkolzin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Kirill Koltsov, the next generation. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Monty Posted July 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 16, 2020 Tryamkin. A worse version of Hal Gill. *CDC* “The second coming of Zdeno Chara” 1 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B Cooper Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Meh. He sucked. We can find a bottom pairing dman in North America. maybe we can stop with the Chara wet dreams now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24K PureCool Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Meh he decided to leave in the first place. Might be time to shop him around at the draft. To me his real value to us right now is giving Pod a Russian buddy to hang out with when we sign him after next season. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlemonger Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 We had to sign Rathbone. No choice. He is just better than Tryamkin. I think we should trade Tryamkin's rights because I think he hits the open market if he can next year. I don't think he will give us preference. That's fair. We didn't give him preference, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 29 minutes ago, aGENT said: Forgot about that (no coffee yet). But with start dates still quite up in the air, who knows what will happen? Maybe the K shuts down? Maybe the NHL starts later? Maybe the deadline gets pushed to match the end of the K season? Nobody knows much of anything at this point. Either way, Tryamkin made his bed. It was his decision to leave in the first place. I think there's a vert high chance that is how it shakes down and I have doubts that the NHL plays beyond this playoff as well. Absolutely agree, he showed his hand already, he was never going to come back without preferential treatment and he's not good enough for that ask, imo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCNate Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 This move makes sense for him given the late start of the NHL season next year. KHL starts in September, NHL in December. If something happens with the KHL and it gets cancelled, he can come over for the start of the NHL season. Probably works better for us anyway. I'd far rather see one of Rathbone, Rafferty, Joulevi get a shot next year, while Tryamkin is over in Russia. He comes over the following season when we are through the cap crunch and ready to go on playoff run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Not surprised, he needed to land somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Can't blame him, he's gotta play somewhere and we're not in the greatest cap position right now. Who knows what happens with the upcoming season either with everything that's going on in the US. He's got better odds playing over in Europe imo. It's encouraging that it's only a one year contract, we'll see what happens. Maybe he signs, maybe next summer comes and he walks. It's up to him and management. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Elias Pettersson Posted July 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Baer. said: Throwing 10s of millions at depth players doesn't seem so smart when you can't even sign your prospects. We literally just signed one of our top prospects just two days ago. Did you miss the memo? 3 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 40 minutes ago, Monty said: Tryamkin. A worse version of Hal Gill. *CDC* “The second coming of Zdeno Chara” To be fair I've never seen Hal Gill ragdoll a guy who was 235 pounds... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: We literally just signed one of our top prospects just two days ago. Did you miss the memo? Never mind... Is Tryamkin really a 'prospect' still...? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Elias Pettersson Posted July 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 16, 2020 This has nothing to do with Tryamkin the player, it's 100% about the cap and COVID. Without COVID Tryamkin probably gets signed. But since everything is up in the air right now including even if there will be a 2020-2021, or at the very least when it will start, plus with the signing of Rathbone who was a priority and may take up a roster spot next year, there simply was no room for Tryamkin and his $2 million+ salary. At this point it may just be that Tanev signs a short term deal for one year and then we see what happens next summer. The UFA's may get caught this year with a flat cap and all the uncertainty. What team will sign a 30 year injury prone Dman on a long term deal at $6 million? What team even has the cap room to do it? Tanev won't be signed by a bottom feeder if he leaves. It would need to be a team that is contending and looking for that missing piece on defence. Those teams probably won't have any cap space. So there is a good chance Tanev re-signs with Vancouver on a short term deal. Tryamkin needed to make a decision now as I believe the KHL season will start in September. With the NHL we are not even completing our current season until October and Tryamkin could not play in the playoffs so it makes sense for him to go back to Russia. He only signed a one year deal which means he left open the possibility of signing with us next summer. 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, aGENT said: Never mind... Is Tryamkin really a 'prospect' still...? No not really, but the poster made the comment that we can't even sign our prospects, 2 days after we just signed arguably our TOP prospect... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Elias Pettersson said: No not really, but the poster made the comment that we can't even sign our prospects, 2 days after we just signed arguably our TOP prospect... Yes, definitely a 'funny' comment on multiple levels Give the poster credit for posting something with so much depth and nuance. Layers like an onion I tell ya 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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