Junkyard Dog Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 I’d do Carlo for Virtanen but the Bruins likely wouldn’t. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 3 hours ago, NUCKER67 said: I agree. If Jake's being traded to the Bruins, a room filled with grit, with Bergeron, Marchand, Chara, etc. holding court, his mindset will change real fast. The Bruins have a physical, hard playing mentality and style. Jake will know exactly what they want from him, and he will either sink or swim. But if he swims... Yeah, scumbags like Chara and Marchand will definitely be able to teach Jake how to act like a professional. Virtanen has too much class to fit in with that group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, King Heffy said: Yeah, scumbags like Chara and Marchand will definitely be able to teach Jake how to act like a professional. Virtanen has too much class to fit in with that group. It’s weird for a team to have someone so in classy in Bergeron. Someone who exemplifies leading on the ice. A guy who literally dragged a stretcher out once for an opposing player who was hurt and then have someone like Marchand on your team. it is kind of baffling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkSave Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 5 hours ago, BCNate said: I don't see that we would get Carlo for anything other than Boeser. Carlo is a giant defensive top 4 D at 23. He instantly becomes our 2nd best D behind Hughes. Brother? Is this you inputting your 2 cents from the Hambone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down by the River Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 25 minutes ago, Moose Nuckle said: I want to see your proof for this bold claim. Claims are bold when its just a presentation of data. Harman Dayal wrote about all of this in The Athletic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Jake will only be dealt with a cap dump and I don’t see Boston carrying dead weight contracts as they are a cap limit team. The Canucks have hardly any assets to use for cap dumps. This would never make sense. Jake will likely be sent to Ottawa, Arizona or Florida. Not Boston 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose Nuckle Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 10 minutes ago, Down by the River said: Claims are bold when its just a presentation of data. Harman Dayal wrote about all of this in The Athletic. Hence why I want to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Provost Posted September 25, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 25, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, grandmaster said: Jake will only be dealt with a cap dump and I don’t see Boston carrying dead weight contracts as they are a cap limit team. The Canucks have hardly any assets to use for cap dumps. This would never make sense. Jake will likely be sent to Ottawa, Arizona or Florida. Not Boston Well kudos for making your own imagined declaration of what will happen in the future, and then using it as rationale for an otherwise impossible argument. You don't know that Jake will only be dealt with a cap dump, there are a ton of options on the table for what the team will do with him and other players. As per the links provided above, it is not expected by writers in their market that Boston is going to be a cap team either. This deal would make sense because it saves cap so then you don't have to make a cap dump. Virtanen for Carlo (plus whatever other offsetting stuff goes back and forth) means you don't have to re-sign Tanev to fill that roster spot and save at least $2 million this upcoming season. That $2 million looms large in your ability to sign one or both of Toffoli and Markstrom. No single move is likely going to clear all our cap space, but a few moves that clear $1-2 million each accomplishes the same thing. Edited September 25, 2020 by Provost 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 5 hours ago, rekker said: 100 percent. No room here for Krug. I mean I'd swap him for Stecher's if he signed for $2.5m but... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herberts Vasiljevs Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 (edited) 26 minutes ago, grandmaster said: Jake will only be dealt with a cap dump and I don’t see Boston carrying dead weight contracts as they are a cap limit team. The Canucks have hardly any assets to use for cap dumps. This would never make sense. Jake will likely be sent to Ottawa, Arizona or Florida. Not Boston Why would he only be dealt with cap dump and/or to a budget team? Virt's next contract will be on a pretty team friendly type of deal, so even a team that's squeezed against the cap (like a Boston) might look to him as an option to shore up their offensive depth? I think you're just making things up in your own head, tbh. Not seeing any merit behind your sentiment at all. Edited September 25, 2020 by Herberts Vasiljevs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 (edited) On 9/24/2020 at 5:40 PM, Provost said: No single move is likely going to clear all our cap space, but a few moves that clear $1-2 million each accomplishes the same thing. This. Though I'm hoping Jim can swindle an owner looking to shed real cash money. I'm currently crossing all appendages for an Erriksson/Stralman swap. Effectively saves us +/-$2m of cap and fills our 3RD slot. Saves FLA ownership $5m of actual cash over the next two years ($3.5 of which this coming season). I'm sure we'd still need to add a bit given Stralman can still actually.. You know.. play hockey But saving someone $5m is not small potatoes. This might be less PAINFUL than feared if we can swing something. Hughes, Tanev Edler, Myers/Stralman Juolevi, Stralman/Myers Edited September 26, 2020 by aGENT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 I can’t respond to posters because of some glitch in this site (using an iPhone). I’ll say this. We have a lot of overpaid players that need to go and the best way to get rid of them is by trading with sweeteners. Jake is a great sweetener. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted September 25, 2020 Author Share Posted September 25, 2020 1 minute ago, aGENT said: This. Though I'm hoping Jim can swindle an owner looking to shed real cash money. I'm currently crossing all appendages for an Erriksson/Stralman swap. Effectively saves us +/-$2m of cap and fills our 3RD slot. Saves FLA ownership $5m of actual cash over the next two years ($3.5 of which this coming season). I'm sure we'd still need to add a bit given Stralman can still actually.. You know.. play hockey But saving someone $5m is not small potatoes. This might be less PAINFUL than feared if we can swing something. I had been beating the drum on that move last week. It is possible that the Matheson move took that off the table. Florida still needs someone to play defence, and unless they luck out and get Pietrangelo, I don't see them needing to move a guy who plays over 21 minutes a night for them. The rationale for the move was the report they wanted to shed some money on defence to add to their offence. Job done for them now probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Provost said: I had been beating the drum on that move last week. It is possible that the Matheson move took that off the table. Florida still needs someone to play defence, and unless they luck out and get Pietrangelo, I don't see them needing to move a guy who plays over 21 minutes a night for them. The rationale for the move was the report they wanted to shed some money on defence to add to their offence. Job done for them now probably. Send them Stecher's rights as well...? Hell they can have Virtanen's for a pick as part of the package. To FLA: Eriksson, rights to Virtanen and Stecher To VAN: Stralman and one of their two third rounders. Jake would love South Beach Edited September 25, 2020 by aGENT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Junkyard Dog said: It’s weird for a team to have someone so in classy in Bergeron. Someone who exemplifies leading on the ice. A guy who literally dragged a stretcher out once for an opposing player who was hurt and then have someone like Marchand on your team. it is kind of baffling. Bergeron himself is no saint after crying like a baby to the media after Burrows gave him what he deserved. That entire franchise is a disgrace to the sport. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Just now, King Heffy said: Bergeron himself is no saint after crying like a baby to the media after Burrows gave him what he deserved. That entire franchise is a disgrace to the sport. Agree to disagree. The finger bite was unnecessary. I get you're bias though which is why we love ya. Personally I love Berg. Class act dude. Should be captain there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure2Win Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 7 hours ago, NUCKER67 said: Even though it is only Eklund who's rumouring, I find it interesting. I can see BOS being interested in Virtanen, the same way they were interested in Neely lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebreh Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Jake for Carlo then offersheet Cernak! all of a sudden we're huge 6'4 Edler - Carlo 6'5 7'0 Hughes - Cernak 6'4 6'3 Juolevi - Myers 6'8 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24K PureCool Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Trebreh said: Jake for Carlo then offersheet Cernak! all of a sudden we're huge 6'4 Edler - Carlo 6'5 7'0 Hughes - Cernak 6'4 6'3 Juolevi - Myers 6'8 The hell, when did Hughes get the hulk serum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebreh Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 1 minute ago, 24K PureCool said: The hell, when did Hughes get the hulk serum? Captain America serum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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