Me_ Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 13 minutes ago, Filthy McNasty said: Yah, I think the hole is bigger in the top 6 over defence Perfect fit really. Rare is it so perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garthsbutcher Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Boudrias said: At 30 years old I don't see the fit. Hughes, Edler, Schmidt and Myers are top 4. #5 and #6 can be any combination of Benn and prospects. Younger players who need the TOI to show what they will be capable of in 2-3 years. He would be a great addition, total team guy who stands up for hit team. When he stood up and fought Guddy he earned my respect in a big way. He is a huge upgrade over Benn or Stetcher. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucklehead73 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Boudrias said: At 30 years old I don't see the fit. Hughes, Edler, Schmidt and Myers are top 4. #5 and #6 can be any combination of Benn and prospects. Younger players who need the TOI to show what they will be capable of in 2-3 years. I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Would love to see this signing. Replace Benn with Hamonic and our D gets better. Get it done JB. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 53 minutes ago, Me_ said: Man... ...Toffoli... ...man... I think the idea is that Hamonic will sign for like a 1-1.5 million "show me" deal. Toffoli was never in our budget even at his current contract. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post theo5789 Posted December 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 14, 2020 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Filthy McNasty said: Yah, I think the hole is bigger in the top 6 over defence Hamonic would fill a needed PK spot left by Tanev, plus adds physicality to partner well with someone like Juolevi. It is much easier to shelter a young winger into the lineup over a dman and we are unlikely to want to have two rookies in the lineup at the same time on defense. One injury would force that to happen. As it stands, we have plenty of forwards, many that could be given a look in the top 6. Miller-EP-Boeser Pearson-Bo-? We have Virtanen who was on pace for 43 points last season mostly in the bottom 6 who is the most likely candidate to get a look there to start. We have Gaudette who has said he's eyeing to replace Toffoli's spot and he was on pace for 46 points last season in a bottom 6 role (having Sutter here still would allow him to try a wing spot). We have MacEwen who we saw given looks alongside Pearson and Bo and he had 11 points in 20 games (which is a small sample size, but a 45 point pace). We could try someone like Hawryluk who had 7 points in 11 games in his short stint with Ottawa. We have a player like Hoglander that will get a shot to earn a spot in camp and his offensive talent is through the roof (just the defensive side to his game needs work, but Bo and Tanner could help with that). We have Podkolzin that could join us later this season and Lind will get a shot as well. We didn't need to tie up more cap on wing with so many viable options worth trying and coming in the near future. Let's not forget that Toffoli prior to joining us and playing with our elite 1st line players, he was on pace for 48 points and the two years prior he had 34 and 47 points respectively. Put our bottom 6 40 point producers and their production could skyrocket as well. So I have to disagree and believe that Hamonic would fill a more pressing need while giving us a very cap friendly short term deal. Edited December 14, 2020 by theo5789 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Provost Posted December 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 14, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, goalie13 said: $10.5M is a lot to just walk away from. There are plenty of guys that finished out their career getting paid to be on LTIR. He can do both. If he is "medically retired" on LTIR we can spend the cap space on a replacement. Ferland still gets his money and we get to sigh Hamonic. We have to pay the actual cash for it either way since it is not an insured contract. I really see us having to fill the Stecher spot. A guy that can move up the lineup into the top 4 in case of injury. We don't have that and are one injury away from Juolevi/Benn/Rafferty/Rathbone playing 20 minutes a night on a 2nd pairing. Stecher's ability to eat minutes was drastically undervalued by many, and apparently even the organization. There were nights he played 30 minutes and had really solid underlying stats while doing it. Edited December 14, 2020 by Provost 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigerian Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 3 hours ago, Boudrias said: At 30 years old I don't see the fit. Hughes, Edler, Schmidt and Myers are top 4. #5 and #6 can be any combination of Benn and prospects. Younger players who need the TOI to show what they will be capable of in 2-3 years. If one of those top four guys does down, which is the inevitable these days, then our defence is looking even more suspect than it already is. Veteran depth is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble 6 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Hamonic would be a great addition. He replaces Tanev and fills our need for a defensively responsible player who can kill penalties. A one year deal would be perfect at something around 2M. He could compliment Hughes well, play with Juolevi on the bottom pair and/or kill penalties. The other UFA I would be interested in is Granlund. I think he would be a good fit in our top-6 and could play with either Pettersson or Horvat. He might be interested in a one year deal as well and could up some good numbers with our team and play in all situations. Hopefully a one year deal around 3.5M would work. To make space for these two additions, Ferland would have to go to LTIR. Another contract would have to be moved as well. I would prefer to move Roussel since he has two years on his deal. Maybe something like Roussel + 3rd + Focht would be enough to find a partner. Baertschi and Eriksson would be buried as well. Miller - Pettersson - Boeser Pearson - Horvat - Granlund Hawryluk - Gaudette - Virtanen Motte - Beagle - Sutter MacEwan Hughes - Hamonic Edler - Schmidt Juolevi - Myers Benn, Rafferty Holtby Demko I think that would be the ideal offseason. The team would be in a much better position to make some noise this year while improving our cap flexibility for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Horvat is a Boss said: Hamonic would be a great addition. He replaces Tanev and fills our need for a defensively responsible player who can kill penalties. A one year deal would be perfect at something around 2M. He could compliment Hughes well, play with Juolevi on the bottom pair and/or kill penalties. The other UFA I would be interested in is Granlund. I think he would be a good fit in our top-6 and could play with either Pettersson or Horvat. He might be interested in a one year deal as well and could up some good numbers with our team and play in all situations. Hopefully a one year deal around 3.5M would work. To make space for these two additions, Ferland would have to go to LTIR. Another contract would have to be moved as well. I would prefer to move Roussel since he has two years on his deal. Maybe something like Roussel + 3rd + Focht would be enough to find a partner. Baertschi and Eriksson would be buried as well. Miller - Pettersson - Boeser Pearson - Horvat - Granlund Hawryluk - Gaudette - Virtanen Motte - Beagle - Sutter MacEwan Hughes - Hamonic Edler - Schmidt Juolevi - Myers Benn, Rafferty Holtby Demko I think that would be the ideal offseason. The team would be in a much better position to make some noise this year while improving our cap flexibility for the future. Pearson & Granlund don’t make a second line. Toffoli brought some serious pedigree. Hopefully the Canucks can rectify that. Edited December 14, 2020 by Me_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptKirk888 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Me_ said: Perfect fit really. Rare is it so perfect. Of all the players we lost, I was most disappointed about Toffoli. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, CaptKirk888 said: Of all the players we lost, I was most disappointed about Toffoli. Same. Here’s hoping Höglander & Podkolzin make it big with Horvat. Edited December 15, 2020 by Me_ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris12345 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 2 hours ago, garthsbutcher said: He would be a great addition, total team guy who stands up for hit team. When he stood up and fought Guddy he earned my respect in a big way. He is a huge upgrade over Benn or Stetcher. Huge upgrade over Stetcher or Benn but I fear he is exactly what we don't need. Another dman who can't shoot that is injury prone and punches out of his weight class. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, Chris12345 said: Huge upgrade over Stetcher or Benn but I fear he is exactly what we don't need. Another dman who can't shoot that is injury prone and punches out of his weight class. He would be signed for a 1 year deal. Pretty much no risk. Can't shoot, well if paired with OJ, he wouldn't be the offensive guy and don't need a shooter for the PK. Injury prone is just opportunities for the young guys, better than throwing them into the fire outright. Plus limited minutes could keep him healthier. Better to have that physical presence than not and him punching out of his weight class is better than Stecher doing so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post D.B Cooper Posted December 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2020 Hamonic and Schmidt replacing Stetcher and Tanev is a legit LARGE upgrade on D over last year. I personally think Virtanen is ready to take a top 6 spot, not to mention Hogz who will push for that spot as well. Our Dline was due for a rebuild, and this would be a great move towards that. Get it done JB 3 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BertaNuck Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 12 minutes ago, drummerboy said: Hamonic and Schmidt replacing Stetcher and Tanev is a legit LARGE upgrade on D over last year. I personally think Virtanen is ready to take a top 6 spot, not to mention Hogz who will push for that spot as well. Our Dline was due for a rebuild, and this would be a great move towards that. Get it done JB Virtanen is not and will not be a top six forward, he has had his chance and could not put it together he will be a decent top 9 if he can be consistent with using his size which seems to be a problem. I don’t see guadette as being able to fill tofolli shoes he had plenty of Time in the top six as well , so unless hogs comes in and wows us to fill that top six then we have massive hole, and we have had holes for years chucking who ever we could with BO and not finding the solution when we got tofolli we finally, finally had a full top 6 if we can’t fill it then once again we will put the blender on max speed for Bo which is not fair to our captain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#Canucks Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 7 minutes ago, Filthy McNasty said: Virtanen is not and will not be a top six forward, he has had his chance and could not put it together he will be a decent top 9 if he can be consistent with using his size which seems to be a problem. I don’t see guadette as being able to fill tofolli shoes he had plenty of Time in the top six as well , so unless hogs comes in and wows us to fill that top six then we have massive hole, and we have had holes for years chucking who ever we could with BO and not finding the solution when we got tofolli we finally, finally had a full top 6 if we can’t fill it then once again we will put the blender on max speed for Bo which is not fair to our captain I disagree strongly. I believe Virtanen can be the difference maker in the top six if he tries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stelar Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 7 minutes ago, #Canucks said: I disagree strongly. I believe Virtanen can be the difference maker in the top six if he tries. Lol. If he tries? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#Canucks Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 18 minutes ago, Stelar said: Lol. If he tries? I think he has a lack of motivation to be consistent. If he tries a little harder at being consistent, maybe showing up to camp in great shape for instance, I think he can be great. Maturity, that’s what he needs. Priorities of being the best player he can. If he “tries” and matures, Virtanen is our dark horse this year. I believe he has that in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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