King Heffy Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 19 minutes ago, Timråfan said: I think you should go to Green with your complaints. Green could have used him differently. It just is silly with your attacks on the player even after he left the team. The correct usage for LE is the press box. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thundernuts Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 17 minutes ago, Timråfan said: I think you should go to Green with your complaints. Green could have used him differently. It just is silly with your attacks on the player even after he left the team. Really? It's Green's fault? Did he play that much better under Desjardins? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 6 minutes ago, thundernuts said: Really? It's Green's fault? Did he play that much better under Desjardins? Well that was LE's argument when he whined to the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timråfan Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 47 minutes ago, thundernuts said: Really? It's Green's fault? Did he play that much better under Desjardins? Loui wasn't a fit for the Canucks system, indifferent who was coach. It been talked about a lot and still fans here attack Loui... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 1 hour ago, shayster007 said: Guenther and Eklund were my guys this draft. Stand behind that. I was hoping before him as well... although I'm more than satisfied how it played out 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 10 minutes ago, Timråfan said: Loui wasn't a fit for the Canucks system, indifferent who was coach. It been talked about a lot and still fans here attack Loui... it's a players job to fit into the system of the team where he consciously chose to sign for 6 years, not the team's job to try to find a system that works for him. no matter how you slice it, loui's demise was 100% his own doing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Torts Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 He sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Moose Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 We got robbed in this trade; Loui is clearly a superstar. Do you think it's too late to try and get him back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thundernuts Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Timråfan said: Loui wasn't a fit for the Canucks system, indifferent who was coach. It been talked about a lot and still fans here attack Loui... Sorry, but I'm not buying that. Loui signed a big deal and didn't perform. It happens all the time. Some Player's get the big deal, and then coast through their contract until they either retire, or suddenly have a resurgence in their final year. Edited September 29, 2021 by thundernuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Timråfan said: Loui wasn't a fit for the Canucks system, indifferent who was coach. It been talked about a lot and still fans here attack Loui... The systems are literally made by the coach. "Wasn't a fit for the Canucks system" has no context to the point where it's not even an excuse. But you are from Sweden and you are going to be biased. I get that. It doesn't make your view realistic though. Have there been players here unfairly attacked in the past? Absolutely, but those players aren't generally using up 6mil in cap space and preventing us from signing other players. Let me ask you this: Do you at least somewhat agree that the hate is understandable? Do you at least see where the hate comes from from a logical perspective? You don't have to agree with the hate, but if you can at least realise where it comes from that can go a long way. Edited September 28, 2021 by The Lock 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalCanuckFan Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 (edited) Unless Loui catches lightning in a bottle in the final year of his contract, I can't see him scoring more than 30-35 points next season with the Coyotes. He can still be a useful player and with increased usage, maybe he produces a fair bit more than he did in his time with the Canucks. His hands just looked like they had declined significant soon after he joined the Canucks, even when it looked like he was trying. I don't wish a terrible season on Loui but I would be both surprised and curious if he suddenly finds another gear in Arizona. Edited September 28, 2021 by EternalCanuckFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 2 hours ago, spook007 said: I was hoping before him as well... although I'm more than satisfied how it played out So far so good. This trade is a home run if we get even 4 years of OEL playing like he did last night. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Luck Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 Thank god that bug LE is gone lol. What a flop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 3 hours ago, shayster007 said: So far so good. This trade is a home run if we get even 4 years of OEL playing like he did last night. Did not see the game. Do tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 16 minutes ago, Me_ said: Did not see the game. Do tell. He played a great game. If putting the points aside, he looked awesome. Skated well, made smart plays at both ends of the ice, and was surprisingly physical. Looks like he has a lot of good hockey left in him. Not putting to much into 1 preseason game, but here's hoping. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timråfan Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 6 hours ago, The Lock said: The systems are literally made by the coach. "Wasn't a fit for the Canucks system" has no context to the point where it's not even an excuse. As a coach you can't change a player in every way you want. This means that when Benning got him he didn't think it through properly. So the 6 mill is on Benning. As other hefty contracts during a few years while Benning spent all cap while the Canucks were at the bottom. 6 hours ago, The Lock said: But you are from Sweden and you are going to be biased. I get that. It doesn't make your view realistic though. I don't call myself biased only because I know more about this situation, beside Petey and Dahlen, than other players that played for the Canucks. 6 hours ago, The Lock said: Let me ask you this: Do you at least somewhat agree that the hate is understandable? Do you at least see where the hate comes from from a logical perspective? You don't have to agree with the hate, but if you can at least realise where it comes from that can go a long way. The hate isn't understandable for me. I thought this was a hockey forum. Not gossip and $&!#talk forum. If people talked more hockey they would understand why it went bad for Loui and understood his situation. The one thing I can't wrap my head around is why more fans here don't blame Benning for the expensive contract. Can you explain the logical in that? Why? He is the guy who let players like Loui get 6 mill... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timråfan Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, tas said: it's a players job to fit into the system of the team where he consciously chose to sign for 6 years, not the team's job to try to find a system that works for him. no matter how you slice it, loui's demise was 100% his own doing. What?? Loui had no idea he would be in that system with par example Green. This is on Benning that talked with both coach and Sedins. Edited September 29, 2021 by Timråfan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RomanP Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Timråfan said: What?? Loui had no idea he would be in that system with par example Green. This is on Benning that talked with both coach and Sedins. You can’t be serious. A professional hockey player that gets paid $6 mil a year should be able to adopt to any system in his 5 years with one club. If he can’t - it’s entirely on him. No coach in the world would be changing the whole system just to fit one player… Edited September 29, 2021 by RomanP 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Timråfan said: As a coach you can't change a player in every way you want. This means that when Benning got him he didn't think it through properly. So the 6 mill is on Benning. As other hefty contracts during a few years while Benning spent all cap while the Canucks were at the bottom. I don't call myself biased only because I know more about this situation, beside Petey and Dahlen, than other players that played for the Canucks. The hate isn't understandable for me. I thought this was a hockey forum. Not gossip and $&!#talk forum. If people talked more hockey they would understand why it went bad for Loui and understood his situation. The one thing I can't wrap my head around is why more fans here don't blame Benning for the expensive contract. Can you explain the logical in that? Why? He is the guy who let players like Loui get 6 mill... I only gave you the Loui emoji because it's ironic we're talking about a player who was highly hyped coming here, by all accounts 90% earned his contract given his credentials from both Dallas and Boston ..... folks were actually stoked with the signing (not all - but most).... seemed like a great fit for the Sedins who were still actually pretty good then too. LE spent the majority of his time in the top six and on the PK. Especially his first couple years and was a fixture (blocking JV to some folks dismay) with Horvat almost right to the end ... almost. Finally TG had enough and he got what he earned again, which was a bench warmer. Hoglander completely out hustled and played him last season, and it was the right thing to do. Sure blame JB for his last jab at a failed re-tool, maybe LE was overpaid by .5 - at the very most 1 million...that's it. For what he'd done with his career. And one year longer too. Obviously he cashed in, but i'm sure some other sucker would have given him almost the same too. One thing i'm in total agreement with, is the hate became a little bit of a rebuild frustration lighting rod. A bad bad contract. And like you i also defended him from time to time (he's still a good PKer) .... because i don't think anyone but one player in our history deserves to be called trash. Once you put the uniform you are a Canuck .... unless your an ex Oiler/Ranger that is. What happened with LE was 95% on LE and only on LE though. Edit: As far as the rebuild went - we were always going to go through this cycle with the Sedins being virtually untradeable. Didn't want to waive. And out of respect were never asked either. If they wanted a cup they could of signed again... like Thornton/Spezza/Perry and likely Staal. Edited September 29, 2021 by IBatch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timråfan Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 22 minutes ago, RomanP said: You can’t be serious. A professional hockey player that gets paid $6 mil a year should be able to adopt to any system in his 5 years with one club. If he can’t - it’s entirely on him. No coach in the world would be changing the whole system just to fit one player… No, Benning shouldn’t have paid him six mill til he knew Loui was so adaptable as you think. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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