[Signing] Canucks sign Tucker Poolman

[goblix]

1 minute ago, deus.ex.makina said:

Savard instead of Poolman and i would have been ecstatic. 

honestly not sure if Savard is any good anymore or not...

 

he played fairly limited minutes in Tampa and was a roughly even player (in playoffs)... Being on a great and deep team like Tampa this leaves me a little hesitant. That said being said with the defensive core they have there its obvious he was utilized in a limited role in favor of the bigger name players.

 

Just saying not sure if he's earned such high regard as he seems to be getting. Being age 31 (birthday in October) vs Poolman age 28 (birthday in June) we will have Poolman on his more valuable years and will his contract will expire before his eventual decline

 

[Topcheeze86]

He eats minutes and has playoff experience ur not gonna get a guy like this for 1 mil 

[Outsiders]

4 hours ago, DeNiro said:

Would still like to add another top 4 D man.

 

Poolman can fill the role that Benn did the last couple years.

 

The way I see things now.

 

OEL - UFA/Trade

Hughes Hamonic

Rathbone Myers

 

Juolevi Poolman

 

Need a better top 4 guy IMO

No way we just spent 2.5 million for a guy not to play. Poolman is an NHL defensemen. I'm fine with Hamonic,Poolman and Schenn as our 2,3 and 4th right side D. I do agree with you tho that our number 1 can't be Myers and he's getting paid like one. IMO Myers needs to go. Free up 6 million and go out and trade for "your guy"

[eeeeergh]

2 minutes ago, The.Burrowers said:

I guess I'm just of the opinion that if you are looking for a bottom pairing guy on day 1 of UFA and you have the track record you do and just moved heaven and earth to unload/buy out a ton of other poor UFA signings/extensions.... maybe you shouldn't end up in a bidding war....

He's not a bottom pairing guy, he played over 20 minutes/night in the playoffs and looked great. Only people who say he's a bottom pairing guy werent paying attention in the playoffs. 

He played a lot of minutes with Josh Morissey whos a trainwreck defensively. With Morissey, they had a 46.8% Corsi, and morrisey dropped to 42.8% when he wasn't playing with Poolman. Morissey is a 6.2m $ defenseman and Poolman was the one holding up the pair defensively. 

Poolman and Hamonic are both gonna stay at home, block shots, and throw hits while OEL and Hughes terrorize our opponents. 

[Sell.the.team]

1 minute ago, eeeeergh said:

He's not a bottom pairing guy, he played over 20 minutes/night in the playoffs and looked great. Only people who say he's a bottom pairing guy werent paying attention in the playoffs. 

He played a lot of minutes with Josh Morissey whos a trainwreck defensively. With Morissey, they had a 46.8% Corsi, and morrisey dropped to 42.8% when he wasn't playing with Poolman. Morissey is a 6.2m $ defenseman and Poolman was the one holding up the pair defensively. 

Poolman and Hamonic are both gonna stay at home, block shots, and throw hits while OEL and Hughes terrorize our opponents. 

here's hoping!

[oldnews]

7 minutes ago, Texx said:

Everyone likes Demelo it seems. Watching the jets i think poolman has more upside. The 500,000 k difference in salary is about right. They are very close. Id take poolman over demelo to be honeat.

 I agree - that they are/have been comparable.  DeMelo is a solid rhd imo - penalty killer - good tweener.

Clearly Maurice preferred Poolman - he utilized him more.

I'm fine with this deal - I like Poolman's mobility and was impressed with his ability to take away time and space when I got to see him more in the playoffs.

The Jets  were pre-committed - would have had to deal DeMelo to re-sign Poolman.

Instead they went out and bolstered their greater need - LHD.

 

Edited July 28, 2021 by oldnews

[eeeeergh]

8 minutes ago, Canuckster86 said:

Truculent 2pim, usually truculent gets more penalties for crossing the line or being too slow etc. Maybe this guy has it all and he is a hitting machine who takes no penalties...not!

He actually seems to be lol. 2 pims and 69 hits last year in 39 games. 

Makes sense too - he skates extremely well and I don't remember seeing him out of position in the montreal series. 

[DeNiro]

2 minutes ago, Outsiders said:

No way we just spent 2.5 million for a guy not to play. Poolman is an NHL defensemen. I'm fine with Hamonic,Poolman and Schenn as our 2,3 and 4th right side D. I do agree with you tho that our number 1 can't be Myers and he's getting paid like one. IMO Myers needs to go. Free up 6 million and go out and trade for "your guy"

I’m not convinced Myers will be OELs partner.

 

This is the way I see it if we wanna be deep:

 

OEL Murray/Hakanpaa?

Hughes Hamonic 

Myers Poolman

 

Juolevi Schenn

 

Rathbone in Abbotsford.

[iinatcc]

39 minutes ago, tas said:

just go.

Let's be fair the folks in Sportsnet 650 has made similar concerns that this is an overpayment in terms of term and/or money 

Edited July 28, 2021 by iinatcc

[oldnews]

6 minutes ago, eeeeergh said:

He's not a bottom pairing guy, he played over 20 minutes/night in the playoffs and looked great. Only people who say he's a bottom pairing guy werent paying attention in the playoffs. 

He played a lot of minutes with Josh Morissey whos a trainwreck defensively. With Morissey, they had a 46.8% Corsi, and morrisey dropped to 42.8% when he wasn't playing with Poolman. Morissey is a 6.2m $ defenseman and Poolman was the one holding up the pair defensively. 

Poolman and Hamonic are both gonna stay at home, block shots, and throw hits while OEL and Hughes terrorize our opponents. 

"bottom pairing" is an increasingly meaningless term in the modern NHL.

 

but regardless - by objective standards - he wasn't a bottom pairing - he was Wpg's #4.

[oldnews]

O'Neill just chose Vancouver as the team he thinks improved the most thus far this offseason....

[FlyLow_]

1 hour ago, oldnews said:

I'd wait to see what Poolman looks like in this lineup before calling him a 'replacement level d-man' - which is entirely misrepresentative of his role in Winnipeg - where he played a more significant role than Dylan DeMelo, a veteran RHD who averaged 20 minutes the previous 4 seasons - signed to a 4 x 3 million deal....

 

My concern with the right side is not Poolman - it's bringing back Hamonic if the intent is to pair him with Hughes - he'll need to be considerably better imo.

As I said, replacement level.

 

 

 

[oldnews]

Just now, FlyLow_ said:

As I said, replacement level.

 

 

 

thanks - another captain one-liner - always convincing.

[eeeeergh]

3 minutes ago, DeNiro said:

I’m not convinced Myers will be OELs partner.

 

This is the way I see it if we wanna be deep:

 

OEL Murray/Hakanpaa?

Hughes Hamonic 

Myers Poolman

 

Juolevi Schenn

 

Rathbone in Abbotsford.

All depends on the EP and QH contracts I think. If they're what we think they're gonna be (7-7.5m and 6.5m) we won't have room for another D man. 

Hamonic or Poolman could play with OEL. OEL had a CF of 48.2, while Poolman's old partner Morrissey had a CF of 45.9 last year. 

I can see Myers playing with Juolevi again, but easier minutes as the tough shutdown minutes will be taken by OEL, Hamonic, Poolman. Myers should do fine as long as he's not up against other team's top lines. Myers won't be playing with Poolman as both are RHD. 

Agreed Rathbone ends up in Abbotsford. 

[Johnny Torts]

I also look at this and see that our ice time for D can be spread out a lot more evenly. 

[eeeeergh]

5 minutes ago, oldnews said:

"bottom pairing" is an increasingly meaningless term in the modern NHL.

 

but regardless - by objective standards - he wasn't a bottom pairing - he was Wpg's #4.

Yea - you're correct

[The Listening]

We couldn't sign Vatanen? I'm not sure if I like going into the season with our right defence looking like this.

 

Myers

Hamonic 

Poolman

Schenn

 

Unless there is something that I am missing about Poolman, but I would've like to see Benning sign Vatanen, Gustafsson, Smith or Hakanpaa.

Edited July 28, 2021 by The Listening

[Alflives]

3 minutes ago, oldnews said:

O'Neill just chose Vancouver as the team he thinks improved the most thus far this offseason....

Jeff O’Neill from TSN?  

[Johnny Torts]

Just now, eeeeergh said:

All depends on the EP and QH contracts I think. If they're what we think they're gonna be (7-7.5m and 6.5m) we won't have room for another D man. 

Hamonic or Poolman could play with OEL. OEL had a CF of 48.2, while Poolman's old partner Morrissey had a CF of 45.9 last year. 

I can see Myers playing with Juolevi again, but easier minutes as the tough shutdown minutes will be taken by OEL, Hamonic, Poolman. Myers should do fine as long as he's not up against other team's top lines. Myers won't be playing with Poolman as both are RHD. 

Agreed Rathbone ends up in Abbotsford. 

I do not think we are getting Pettersson for 7.5, not long term atleast. I hope we can but &^@#, the guy is so good. 

[#Canucks]

2 hours ago, Canuckster86 said:

1pt season gets a 10m contract and that seems fair...I would say hell no!

Believe it or not keeping goals out of the net is worth just as much as goals scored… he played against the best players in Canada last year and did one heck of a job.