2021 Training Camp Thread

[Gollumpus]

57 minutes ago, sonoman said:

Eartha Kitt?

 

6 minutes ago, Dr. Crossbar said:

That's Lee Meriwether as Catwoman. 

Yup on LW. Not tall enough to be Julie Newmar. She seemed (to me) to have the most fun with the role.

 

                                      regards,  G.

[-DLC-]

12 hours ago, -Vintage Canuck- said:

 

I'm such a turd.  This made me teary.

[Ghostsof1915]

9 minutes ago, -DLC- said:

I'm such a turd.  This made me teary.

No you just miss hockey like the rest of us. 

[ilduce39]

Not sure if this was posted but it’s from Drance’s article at the athletic… Hank on OEL during the “bag skate” fiasco.  Drance was actually pretty bang on in the article about how the vets know what’s coming and pace themselves all day for it. 

 

“He did three ones really easily and then the fourth one, he didn’t, but he’s a new guy, he’s never skated it before, you saw all the other guys that are new and they were struggling too,” said Sedin. “I know fans and media are going to pick up on it and talk about it for a week, but there’s really nothing to talk about.”

[kenhodgejr]

5 hours ago, -Vintage Canuck- said:

 

 

 

Zack Kassian bar ^

[48MPHSlapShot]

15 minutes ago, ilduce39 said:

Not sure if this was posted but it’s from Drance’s article at the athletic… Hank on OEL during the “bag skate” fiasco.  Drance was actually pretty bang on in the article about how the vets know what’s coming and pace themselves all day for it. 

 

“He did three ones really easily and then the fourth one, he didn’t, but he’s a new guy, he’s never skated it before, you saw all the other guys that are new and they were struggling too,” said Sedin. “I know fans and media are going to pick up on it and talk about it for a week, but there’s really nothing to talk about.”

Alright, that actually does make me feel a bit better.

[frank einstein]

1 hour ago, vancan2233 said:

No, that is "I do not like my picture taken!" face.

No its nothing, just resting 'vich face

[NHL97OneTimer]

27 minutes ago, ilduce39 said:

Not sure if this was posted but it’s from Drance’s article at the athletic… Hank on OEL during the “bag skate” fiasco.  Drance was actually pretty bang on in the article about how the vets know what’s coming and pace themselves all day for it. 

 

“He did three ones really easily and then the fourth one, he didn’t, but he’s a new guy, he’s never skated it before, you saw all the other guys that are new and they were struggling too,” said Sedin. “I know fans and media are going to pick up on it and talk about it for a week, but there’s really nothing to talk about.”

11 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said:

Alright, that actually does make me feel a bit better.

But here's what Green said:  “You do it for a reason. You learn a lot about what a guy has done over the summer. It’s a tough skate and new players struggle with it more. Guys who have been here know what’s coming.”

 

Sedin's quote is probably more to the truth, but is the coach using this to gauge fitness levels at the end of the summer?  Looks like it a bit....

 

[knucklehead91]

Can everyone just take a deep breath and relax a little on OJ and OEL?? Its the beginning of training camp, some guys need a few skates to get back into the rhythm. A few other things to consider about OEL and OJ

 

Juolevi - has not played a full season or close to one since Junior. Those Junior days were probably far less intense, many moons ago and nowhere near as demanding as at the NHL level. To add to that note, Juolevi has had knee and back injuries that required surgery the last few years. He was also one of the hardest hit by COVID and lost weight due to the virus. He has hardly had an opportunity to be healthy and free of rehabilitation to train and prepare for any pro camps. OJ could still be battling some lingering respiratory issues and may very well need a bit more time to get the lungs back to normal, thats if there are no serious long term effects. Without proper oxygen intake, OJ’s body isnt going to be able to handle the demand. 
 

OEL - Had knee surgery a year ago. Perhaps he isn’t trying to push himself too hard and suffer any potential set backs early in camp. Let him get his legs under him, focus on proper stride/technique to help reinforce muscle memory. Repetition. Focus on stride and build that into a natural process to avoid re-injury/strain.

 

 

Lets just let training camp get the guys back into shape and worry about the game time performance.

[DS4quality]

Just now, knucklehead91 said:

Can everyone just take a deep breath and relax a little on OJ and OEL?? Its the beginning of training camp, some guys need a few skates to get back into the rhythm. A few other things to consider about OEL and OJ

 

Juolevi - has not played a full season or close to one since Junior. Those Junior days were probably far less intense, many moons ago and nowhere near as demanding as at the NHL level. To add to that note, Juolevi has had knee and back injuries that required surgery the last few years. He was also one of the hardest hit by COVID and lost weight due to the virus. He has hardly had an opportunity to be healthy and free of rehabilitation to train and prepare for any pro camps. OJ could still be battling some lingering respiratory issues and may very well need a bit more time to get the lungs back to normal, thats if there are no serious long term effects. Without proper oxygen intake, OJ’s body isnt going to be able to handle the demand. 
 

OEL - Had knee surgery a year ago. Perhaps he isn’t trying to push himself too hard and suffer any potential set backs early in camp. Let him get his legs under him, focus on proper stride/technique to help reinforce muscle memory. Repetition. Focus on stride and build that into a natural process to avoid re-injury/strain.

 

 

Lets just let training camp get the guys back into shape and worry about the game time performance.

Are you kidding, this is the cdc, if a player sneezes they're a cancer to the locker room...

But yes I 100% agree with you. 

[Alienhuggyflow]

2 hours ago, stawns said:

Haha, talk about a mountain out of a mole hill.  I've been through hundreds of bag skates, both as a player and a coach.  It's meaningless.  It's basically a team building exercise, and "us against them" activity.  I remember one camp in Portland they coaching staff skated us until every last player on the ice puked and it has zero meaning as far as game play, ice time etc.

Very true.

In baseball from the age of 16 to college suicides (sprinting to 1st, jogging to 2nd, sprinting to 3rd and jogging home ) were used at practices and if we played terrible the whole team did them till we puked lol.

They often put us in 2 groups and if someone from your group broke a rule, showed up late etc,  the whole group was punished it was a great deterrent to not mess around.

Then of course the purp has to be punished by the group and anyone who played at a high-level of sports from my age group knows something was being shaved somewhere and not the head. having no eyebrows sucked but was one of the more tame punishments. I'm sure hockey alum have some stories

[-Vintage Canuck-]

 

[RWJC]

40 minutes ago, ilduce39 said:

Not sure if this was posted but it’s from Drance’s article at the athletic… Hank on OEL during the “bag skate” fiasco.  Drance was actually pretty bang on in the article about how the vets know what’s coming and pace themselves all day for it. 

 

“He did three ones really easily and then the fourth one, he didn’t, but he’s a new guy, he’s never skated it before, you saw all the other guys that are new and they were struggling too,” said Sedin. “I know fans and media are going to pick up on it and talk about it for a week, but there’s really nothing to talk about.”

Thank you. 
 

Kinda pathetic of ppl to jump all over this like they even have the slightest clue as to what is going on. 

 

[Miss Korea Bob.Loblaw]

Edited September 24, 2021 by Bob.Loblaw

[Crabcakes]

25 minutes ago, NHL97OneTimer said:

But here's what Green said:  “You do it for a reason. You learn a lot about what a guy has done over the summer. It’s a tough skate and new players struggle with it more. Guys who have been here know what’s coming.”

 

Sedin's quote is probably more to the truth, but is the coach using this to gauge fitness levels at the end of the summer?  Looks like it a bit....

 

Any player who thinks they can fake it at any point in their NHL career is reminded on day 1 that they can't.  Team building?  Ya, because everybody else out there can tell who has been working hard and who hasn't.  

[-Vintage Canuck-]

3 hours ago, Rush17 said:

Is this Jannik Hansen? LOL @-Vintage Canuck-

 

 

Alex Chiasson looks a lot like Jannik Hansen.

 

The resemblance is uncanny.

[Gawdzukes]

4 hours ago, Locke Lamora said:

It’s a valid point about OJ and his battle with Covid. Granted, a bunch of players who had Covid did just fine during the bag skate and were not in the distress Olli was. But we know that certain individuals are hit really hard compared to others. But as this point the excuse making for OJ is becoming less credible to me.

 

Luke Schenn also looked quite good. A nice development considering what I just read about Hamonic. Cripes. 

There can be a lot of reasons to see that though as well. He could have simply drank too much water right before, or not enough before the practice, or went too hard in some drills beforehand trying to impress. Not to make excuses but any long distance runner will tell you if you start out too quick or get a little queasy, or shaky, it's easy to let that spiral and just get weak and sick. Maybe he felt like throwing up and sucked it up just to finish. I used to do that all the time. Of course I still came in first. 

 

Sorry, that's one more excuse for you! 

[Ajax-]

5 hours ago, vancan2233 said:

I have done both strength training and Cardio training at elite levels, and the long distance running (elite cardio at 5k in 22 min) was a lot easier then training for a elite powerlifting meet ( 500+ Squat, 300+ Bench Press and 500+ Deadlift). I did the running in my 20's and powerlifting late 20's to 30's(25 to 35). Took me a about year and half to achieve the 5K run and 8 years to hit a 500 pound Squat,355 Bench Press and 550 Pound Deadlift (body weight 185 in knee wraps raw contest). 

I have drank 355 beers, 367 cocktails, 324 glasses of wine and countless elite substances since the last canucks game, I'm ready for the season to begin 

 

I'm training to be an Elite canucks fan. 

[70seven]

Reading into Greens deployment…. Too early to say but I do get the feeling he’s thinking pairs.

 

Pete Brock

Miller Garland

Bo Pearson

 

…and have Hogs Pod and Dicky sprinkle in where most effective

[Smashian Kassian]

So much lower end forward depth. Motte & Sutter are 4th line locks, then theres a ton of options;

 

Chiasson

Petan

Lockwood

DiGuiseppe

Highmore

MacEwen

Gadjovich

Dowling

Bailey

 

All guys that have played or could possibly play.

 

Even on the backend, consider the options for 6-7-8 & further depth;

 

Rathbone

Juolevi

Hunt

Schenn

Bowey

Keeper

Sautner

Brisebois

 

Again all guys that have played/could play.

 

And in net too - DiPietro is a great insurance policy as a #3.

 

Haven't had this depth throughout the lineup for some time.