JM_ Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, Fred65 said: That's harsh calling Juolevi chicken poop lets appreciate what Lammikko brings without dumping on OJ. The kid really had a run of bad injury luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, JM_ said: lets appreciate what Lammikko brings without dumping on OJ. The kid really had a run of bad injury luck. I tried to find Juolevi today, he's not listed on Floridas roster or the Charlotte Checkers ???? Edited October 16, 2021 by Fred65 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, Fred65 said: I tried to find Juolevi today, he's not listed on Floridas roster or the Charlotte Checkers ???? maybe on loan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, Fred65 said: I tried to find Juolevi today, he's not listed on Floridas roster or the Charlotte Checkers ???? Maybe he's working out the work visa issues? I don't think it's a straight forward as people think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, VancouverHabitant said: Maybe he's working out the work visa issues? I don't think it's a straight forward as people think. That could well be the case, lets hope for his sake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post canucklehead44 Posted October 16, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2021 1 hour ago, coryberg said: I'm super impressed with Burroughs and don't see how Juulsen sees any nhl ice unless there are multiple injuries. I'm happy for Juulsen to be able to play in his hometown of Abbotsford and thankful that JB salvaged a #9 dman when we clearly would have lost OJ on waivers. As for Lammikko, I'm really liking his addition. Great motor, good size, plays a heavy game and good defensively. Looks like JB turned chicken poop to chicken soup. I wouldn’t call Juolevi chicken poop - he is still the best player in the trade IMO but given the circumstance Benning was able to at least get something for a player that didn’t make the club and would have been exposed to waivers . He filled a need for a bottom 6 penalty killer and got some right side depth with upside 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHL97OneTimer Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 10 hours ago, canucklehead44 said: I wouldn’t call Juolevi chicken poop - he is still the best player in the trade IMO but given the circumstance Benning was able to at least get something for a player that didn’t make the club and would have been exposed to waivers . He filled a need for a bottom 6 penalty killer and got some right side depth with upside Yeah, he could be the best player in the trade.....he never really enough time in the bigs to know. But right now we're seeing something that we needed jumping in right away with Lammikko. In a short look so far, he looks versatile and more importantly, hungry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 10 hours ago, Fred65 said: That's harsh calling Juolevi chicken poop 10 hours ago, canucklehead44 said: I wouldn’t call Juolevi chicken poop - he is still the best player in the trade IMO but given the circumstance Benning was able to at least get something for a player that didn’t make the club and would have been exposed to waivers . He filled a need for a bottom 6 penalty killer and got some right side depth with upside Is waiver fodder a better term? He wasn't good enough to make our team and was about to be lost for nothing. JB managed to turn nothing into something, the analogy isn't far off. BTW chicken poop is a good fertilizer. Chicken manure provides Nitrogen, Phosphorus and Potassium to your plants (more than horse, cow or steer manure). So don't knock it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rizzuto&hatoum Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Florida reclamation successes - Sam Bennett has 18 points in his first 12 games with the Panthers and Forsling is in the top 4. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phat Fingers Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, rizzuto&hatoum said: Florida reclamation successes - Sam Bennett has 18 points in his first 12 games with the Panthers and Forsling is in the top 4. Next is OJ, sooner or later Virtanen will arrive. Not to worry, OJ is off the team because Rathbone outplayed and out skilled him. Not sure if this a busted pick or an embarrassment of riches. if Rathbone was sent down, OJ was on the team. But Rathbone also a rookie and drafted after OJ has surpassed him on our roster. So we get a depth guy to a weak position, and Lammikko a key near rookie bottom six center winger who hits everything that moves. If Juulsen can recover for, his injuries, then we have a RHD local d man. Bowey looked good and has the skating a size to be a solid pro, provided he has the commitment that he lacked earlier in his career, Ala OJ.. Woo is a guy that will make others keep track of him on this ice, he hits hard, with a excellent Center of gravity. Hammer 2.0. cant say this a loss or a re balance or assets in a more lateral move. it wasn’t like any Canucks prospect was slipping past waivers this offseason. Phats, Edited October 17, 2021 by Phat Fingers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Not that it means much but.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted October 18, 2021 Author Share Posted October 18, 2021 4 hours ago, SilentSam said: Not that it means much but.. I noticed this while looking at Benning's draft history actually. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 14 hours ago, Phat Fingers said: Next is OJ, sooner or later Virtanen will arrive. Not to worry, OJ is off the team because Rathbone outplayed and out skilled him. Not sure if this a busted pick or an embarrassment of riches. if Rathbone was sent down, OJ was on the team. But Rathbone also a rookie and drafted after OJ has surpassed him on our roster. So we get a depth guy to a weak position, and Lammikko a key near rookie bottom six center winger who hits everything that moves. If Juulsen can recover for, his injuries, then we have a RHD local d man. Bowey looked good and has the skating a size to be a solid pro, provided he has the commitment that he lacked earlier in his career, Ala OJ.. Woo is a guy that will make others keep track of him on this ice, he hits hard, with a excellent Center of gravity. Hammer 2.0. cant say this a loss or a re balance or assets in a more lateral move. it wasn’t like any Canucks prospect was slipping past waivers this offseason. Phats, I think the Juolevi trade was similar to the Gaudette trade. Moving a guy who wasn't quite fitting in for a bottom 6 need. Juulson I regard as a throw in for the baby Canucks which is basically Florida dumping a contract. Would be a surprise if he amounts to anything given his injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 On 10/16/2021 at 11:49 AM, Fred65 said: I tried to find Juolevi today, he's not listed on Floridas roster or the Charlotte Checkers ???? It seems to be a VISA issue (same with Gadj), so the teams had put them as non roster players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklehead44 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 On 10/17/2021 at 10:42 PM, Crabcakes said: I think the Juolevi trade was similar to the Gaudette trade. Moving a guy who wasn't quite fitting in for a bottom 6 need. Juulson I regard as a throw in for the baby Canucks which is basically Florida dumping a contract. Would be a surprise if he amounts to anything given his injuries. He was pretty good in his limited time playing in Montreal and was drafted only one year after Olli - I am excited for him. 44 games, 8 points (15 point pace), 18:19 TOI, 98.7 minutes short handed, 73 blocks, 118 hits, +6, 59.7 DZS . His possession numbers are pretty poor but in short he played in a defensive role, solid minutes, physical, and finished at a +6. I think he still has some solid upside. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrissex95 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 On 10/19/2021 at 12:56 PM, canucklehead44 said: He was pretty good in his limited time playing in Montreal and was drafted only one year after Olli - I am excited for him. 44 games, 8 points (15 point pace), 18:19 TOI, 98.7 minutes short handed, 73 blocks, 118 hits, +6, 59.7 DZS . His possession numbers are pretty poor but in short he played in a defensive role, solid minutes, physical, and finished at a +6. I think he still has some solid upside. He was drafted in 2015, a year before Juolevi not after. Juulsen was drafted in that insane first round in 2015. His tools when he was drafted were probably superb but at the pro level it hasn't translated. Benning is betting that bring him into his hometown can turn him into a solid filler hopefully something more. It's likely he could end up on waivers (again) but I hope he succeeds. Lammikko though, idk. He looks like a good bottom six guy, maybe Benning regrets not drafting him. Either way, we've got something back for Juolevi after wasting that top five pick on him due to organizational need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Canuck #12 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 With his size, I would like to see more hitting and general physical play out of Lamm, but hopefully that's coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googlie Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Hmmm 3rd on the team in hits per 60 mins. Behind Burroughs and Schenn 2nd on team in blocked shots per 60 mins, behind Burroughs (just how valuable is Burroughs?) 2nd on team in takeaways per 60 mins, behind Horvat Conversely, 2nd worst on team in giveaways per 60 mins, behind Miller (and 3rd & 4th on the "worst" list are, respectively, Hoglander and Pettersson) I think he's doing just fine in the role he has been given, and for the $$ we pay him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted October 25, 2021 Author Share Posted October 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, Googlie said: Hmmm 3rd on the team in hits per 60 mins. Behind Burroughs and Schenn 2nd on team in blocked shots per 60 mins, behind Burroughs (just how valuable is Burroughs?) 2nd on team in takeaways per 60 mins, behind Horvat Conversely, 2nd worst on team in giveaways per 60 mins, behind Miller (and 3rd & 4th on the "worst" list are, respectively, Hoglander and Pettersson) I think he's doing just fine in the role he has been given, and for the $$ we pay him There's very often an inverse correlation between hits and puck possession, so this isn't surprising. If you ever find a guy who hits all the time and also has good CORSI and takeaway numbers, keep that guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Canuck #12 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Sounds like the numbers say Lamm is a prolific hitter, but I guess what I'm getting at is that, for his size, he should be able to throw a few more memorable hits. Personally, I can't remember a single hit that he's thrown, which I suspect is because they haven't been exactly been glass-rattling for the most part. On the other hand, it seems like most of Schenn's hits are like that, while Burroughs has thrown enough good hits to make people take notice of how physical he is. Can't say the same for Lamm yet, but again, I hope those hits are yet to come! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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