DownUndaCanuck Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, Eddie said: Incoming 4th round pick in 2025, a cap dump coming back and another big Canucks press / twitter feel good story on Canucks management and the evils of trading a committed player whose wife had just given birth a few weeks after firing Bruce Yup, can see that happen. Scratch Boeser on Cancer awareness night, drag out the firing of Bruce publicly, trade Bo before the All star game where he repeatedly states he thought he'd retire a Canuck and now ship off Schenn who has said he wants to stay just after giving birth and making a family home in Vancouver. I know trades have to happen but boy has this management team messed up in the public eye. Do they not have some sort of public relations people to tell them how to conduct business a bit more palatably? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 8 minutes ago, Provost said: Who says? Toffoli and Virtanen's contracts were closer in value and were the same offseason. Boeser's deal was already signed in 2019-2020 and almost $6 million so Toffoli didn't come into play at that time. Virtanen and Toffoli were both up in 2020 and $2.5 and around $4 million respectively. If they had have not signed Virtanen, they could have afforded to fit in Toffoli. Yup. That’s how I remember it. There are some posters here that have a rabid hatred of Boeser. I think they might be jealous of his flow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 11 minutes ago, Bounce000 said: Very excited to watch the salt fest when we don’t get a first rounder for Schenn No one’s giving up a 1st and no one ought to be expecting a 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 10 minutes ago, DownUndaCanuck said: 3rd round pick is a slap in the face for what Schenn brings to not just the team but the kids. Our drafting record is so rubbish, I'd rather we keep Schenn for a year or two while we have decent prospects coming up in the lineup for him to groom and teach how to play the right way. He's the perfect sentinel for Tocchet to get his message across young guys. We could have Rathbone, Hoglander, Raty and maybe even our 1st rounder in and out of the NHL next year - what better mentor than Schenn. I'd accept a 2nd, we could get a decent player there, but a 3rd is pretty useless. Look at our last few 3rd rounders - not many NHLers there. Guys like Dipietro, Lockwood, Brisebois, Cole Cassels, Connauton, Rahimi - a bunch of guys who had so much hype and then never really cracked the NHL. Edler was a 3rd round pick but that's the only decent NHLer we've drafted in the 3rd round out of the last 40 years. I'd hope Schenn is part of a bigger trade, for example using it to entice a team to take Myers, Boeser or Miller. Agree, completely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screw Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, DownUndaCanuck said: Yup, can see that happen. Scratch Boeser on Cancer awareness night, drag out the firing of Bruce publicly, trade Bo before the All star game where he repeatedly states he thought he'd retire a Canuck and now ship off Schenn who has said he wants to stay just after giving birth and making a family home in Vancouver. I know trades have to happen but boy has this management team messed up in the public eye. Do they not have some sort of public relations people to tell them how to conduct business a bit more palatably? Maybe there needs to be a safe space created for all the emotional hurts and owies that people have suffered? Pro-sports… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 1 minute ago, stawns said: I meant they should have traded boeser and kept TT JB should have done a lot of things…. - not sign LE for that terrible 6 year contract - should have convinced the Sedins to be traded for futures, we would have gotten a couple firsts and good prospects for these guys. - not sign bone head FA’s like that pile of crap Gubranson - gave Myers too much and too long of a contract - let Marky, TT and Tanev go at the end for the year for NOTHING. He didn’t even attempt to negotiate a contract with ANY of them - trade off 3 expiring contracts with our first for an aging defender and a vertically challenged player - terrible picks at the draft; mostly JV and OJ (Petey and QH fell on his lap, that was not him “willing” those picks) - no playoffs other than the bubble during his tenure - no concept of tanking by design when the season is lost for better draft picks - never “weaponized” the Cap Absolutely no direction during his 7 years. No Canuck GM has ever been this incompetent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B Cooper Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 20 minutes ago, Pears said: How is he an asshat for saying why Schenn is being sent back to Vancouver? Rick is an asshat for a dozen reasons. One of the reasons being he spouts off his assumptions and guesses, and is quite frequently incorrect. He has the cockiness of someone with real connections, but the track record is ify 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenhodgejr Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Schenn's trade value is pretty high right now for him so I understand why management would want to sell high 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 My guess is a second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, Sharpshooter said: No one’s giving up a 1st and no one ought to be expecting a 1st. No and obviously that’s ridiculous. But I will be disappointed if they don’t take advantage of our cap space to up the return to at least a 2nd or a young D man. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Glad they are getting it done early. His wife is due by the deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberz21 Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 16 minutes ago, Provost said: Who says? Toffoli and Virtanen's contracts were closer in value and were the same offseason. Boeser's deal was already signed in 2019-2020 and almost $6 million so Toffoli didn't come into play at that time. Virtanen and Toffoli were both up in 2020 and $2.5 and around $4 million respectively. If they had have not signed Virtanen, they could have afforded to fit in Toffoli. Would Toffoli have accepted 4M from the Canucks though? Yeah he got that, but I’m assuming he settle for it after the market was underwhelming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Just now, DeNiro said: No and obviously that’s ridiculous. But I will be disappointed if they don’t take advantage of our cap space to up the return to at least a 2nd or a young D man. You’re a Canucks supporter. Prepare for disappointment. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 16 minutes ago, DownUndaCanuck said: 3rd round pick is a slap in the face for what Schenn brings to not just the team but the kids. Our drafting record is so rubbish, I'd rather we keep Schenn for a year or two while we have decent prospects coming up in the lineup for him to groom and teach how to play the right way. He's the perfect sentinel for Tocchet to get his message across young guys. We could have Rathbone, Hoglander, Raty and maybe even our 1st rounder in and out of the NHL next year - what better mentor than Schenn. I'd accept a 2nd, we could get a decent player there, but a 3rd is pretty useless. Look at our last few 3rd rounders - not many NHLers there. Guys like Dipietro, Lockwood, Brisebois, Cole Cassels, Connauton, Rahimi - a bunch of guys who had so much hype and then never really cracked the NHL. Edler was a 3rd round pick but that's the only decent NHLer we've drafted in the 3rd round out of the last 40 years. I'd hope Schenn is part of a bigger trade, for example using it to entice a team to take Myers, Boeser or Miller. I believe D-Petey was a 3rd round pick. I'd do that over! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Sharpshooter said: You’re a Canucks supporter. Prepare for disappointment. Oh I’m prepared. Like I said a few pages back, I’m hoping for a 2nd expecting a 3rd or a 4th. Edited February 21, 2023 by DeNiro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Just now, DeNiro said: Oh I’m prepared. Like I said first page, I’m hoping for a 2nd expecting a 3rd or a 4th. Hope for the best, prepare for the 3rd. There ya go. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmo2337 Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 My guess is Schenn to Calgary for a second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Sharpshooter said: You’re a Canucks supporter. Prepare for disappointment. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Just now, gizmo2337 said: My guess is Schenn to Calgary for a second. Watch it be Lucic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 I just don't want Schenn going to TOR. Sure, VAN can help BOS with their cap, might as well overprice if they really want him to BOS - Schenn to VAN - Zacha or to BOS - Schenn to VAN - Smith and a 1st or Lysell Kind of hoping Schenn goes to WPG, out of nowhere 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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