PhillipBlunt Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 27 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Can we go a day without trying to create more doom and gloom? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Well, if someone offer sheet's Petey in 2024, would that be the worst thing for this franchise at this stage in our rebuild retool? It might force management/ownership to admit what they won't, and acknowledge we need a full rebuild. The right management group could do a lot with 4 1st round picks, which is surely what the level of offer would need to be for us not to match. I know some would believe he's 'untouchable' but unless you're a 'generational' player (debate over what exactly that means notwithstanding), nobody imo is untouchable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 10 minutes ago, Fanuck said: Well, if someone offer sheet's Petey in 2024, would that be the worst thing for this franchise at this stage in our rebuild retool? It might force management/ownership to admit what they won't, and acknowledge we need a full rebuild. The right management group could do a lot with 4 1st round picks, which is surely what the level of offer would need to be for us not to match. I know some would believe he's 'untouchable' but unless you're a 'generational' player (debate over what exactly that means notwithstanding), nobody imo is untouchable. The return would be huge if another team offer sheeted Petey. As much as I like Pettersson, the return could be team changing. I think JR ('cause let's face it, he's the guy in charge and Allvin is more of a manager in training), will offer Petey a fair number/term, but he can't lowball him, like he seems to be doing with Horvat. My guess is $9.5 x 6. Not sure Pettersson will want 8 years in VAN, especially if things continue to go sideways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Goose Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 hope not (that would suck) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 1 minute ago, NUCKER67 said: The return would be huge if another team offer sheeted Petey. As much as I like Pettersson, the return could be team changing. I think JR ('cause let's face it, he's the guy in charge and Allvin is more of a manager in training), will offer Petey a fair number/term, but he can't lowball him, like he seems to be doing with Horvat. My guess is $9.5 x 6. Not sure Pettersson will want 8 years in VAN, especially if things continue to go sideways. Tbh, I think Petey gets north of $10m a year. His contract comparable has been Barzal for awhile now, and his ceiling is a lot higher than Barzal’s so I wouldn’t be shocked at all to see Petey get anywhere from $84m-$88m over 8 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Since when are baseless musings from beat writers now rumours? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
combover Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 I doubt he signs an extension this summer. He’d be wise to wait and see what happens during next season and after all the dust settles from coaching changes trades buyouts and what ever else is coming. i wouldn’t blame him for wanting out I mean if the team isn’t serious about building for a cup and is the plan remains a fingers crossed wildcard then really what the hells the point besides the pay check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 1 hour ago, HKSR said: https://www.canucksdaily.com/Michael-Russo-believes-the-worst-possible-thing-for-Pettersson-and-his-agent-does-not-deny-it-198347 "Elias loves VAN, he hates losing. July 1st we can discuss and explore a contract with Vancouver and we will." -- Pat Brisson (Petey's agent) There better be a good plan in place if we want to keep our alien. That's a click bait site, nothing more. He wants to stay here, all of this is just reporters trying to justify their continuing existence by building clicks to their site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maginator Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Just now, combover said: I doubt he signs an extension this summer. He’d be wise to wait and see what happens during next season and after all the dust settles from coaching changes trades buyouts and what ever else is coming. i wouldn’t blame him for wanting out I mean if the team isn’t serious about building for a cup and is the plan remains a fingers crossed wildcard then really what the hells the point besides the pay check. You have to remember there is always the risk of a long-term career implicating injury for players. If Petey signs, however the contract is insured - he's guaranteed X amount of dollars. If he chooses not to sign this summer he's risking his future career earnings. IMO his contract will be signed this season, whether it's with us or another team... But I'm 95% sure it'll be with us. Pettersson has loads of opportunity here. He is THE guy. He'll be given the key to Vancouver this summer, and possibly the captaincy once the new contract kicks in (2024-25). This will be even more evident once Bo is traded. I've mentioned this in other threads too that a factor no one considers when speculating Pettersson pulls a Tkachuk is that Pettersson is from Sweden. The only 'home' he knows in North America is Vancouver. No other American city is calling him to come home. Unless he just really wants out he will remain a Canuck for life IMO. Pay the man his money A$AP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rawkdrummer Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Does Connor McDavid want to leave Edmonton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Just now, rawkdrummer said: Does Connor McDavid want to leave Edmonton? Once Draisaitl leaves yes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyClarke Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Not many teams have the cap room to offer sheet EP. And the ones that do have the room, I would gladly take their multiple first round picks. There you go, still scared? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24K PureCool Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 I wish he wants to leave so everyone from the owner to the most bandwagon fan will finally admit that this team need a proper rebuild. Before anyone go at me. Yes we can still rebuild with Pettey but he is the excuse management use to continue with this bs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Just now, 24K PureCool said: I wish he wants to leave so everyone from the owner to the most bandwagon fan will finally admit that this team need a proper rebuild. Before anyone go at me. Yes we can still rebuild with Pettey but he is the excuse management use to continue with this bs. No he’s the type of center you start a build around. Why would you get rid of him just to try and search for another center as good as him? Makes no sense, he’s 24. You’re looking at 10 years with no guarantees if you wanna tear it right down to nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 48 minutes ago, combover said: I doubt he signs an extension this summer. He’d be wise to wait and see what happens during next season and after all the dust settles from coaching changes trades buyouts and what ever else is coming. i wouldn’t blame him for wanting out I mean if the team isn’t serious about building for a cup and is the plan remains a fingers crossed wildcard then really what the hells the point besides the pay check. Rutherford already said he ain't about them picks. So it's safe to say the team isn't serious about building for a cup. I don't think he realizes we don't have two generational centers, one of the best goalies of his time, and Letang who was a nutty puck moving do it all D-man. You can't just slot anyone on the wings and call it a day. Lol. But, maybe his target NHL ready youngsters idea is what'll keep Petey here. Since we'll be competitive sooner. But how good we'll be remains to be seen. As much as I roast Rutherford, he hasn't had the cap to build around our core of Petey, Hughes, and Demko. I dunno where Miller and Horvat fit. And he likely won't have that for a year or two. But I mean, he did himself no favours by signing Mikheyev. Love the player, but he wasn't a fit. We'll see what happens. It's gonna be a long decade if we're in the same spot at the end of it that we are at the end of the Benning era. Which was almost a decade itself. We have done ZERO rebuilding. We barely even retooled very well. Pettersson, Demko and Hughes are all we have to show for Benning's retooling. And again, retooling here isn't the same as retooling in Pittsburgh. I feel like I could have played on Crosby or Malkin's wing and gotten 10-15 goals. At least 3 off my big ass head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24K PureCool Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, DeNiro said: No he’s the type of center you start a build around. Why would you get rid of him just to try and search for another center as good as him? Makes no sense, he’s 24. You’re looking at 10 years with no guarantees if you wanna tear it right down to nothing. I don't want him gone but he is the crutch this management team use to refuse to do what needs to be done. Sadly only with him gone will this team wake up and face the music. Edited January 17, 2023 by 24K PureCool 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicklas Bo Hunter Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 I mean I bet McDavid wishes he didn't sign that oiler contract... no hockey player likes losing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 12 minutes ago, 24K PureCool said: I don't want him gone but he is the crutch this management team use to refuse to do what needs to be done. Sadly only with him gone will this team wake up and face the music. What music? The parts that need to be fixed are obvious, and it doesn’t involve trading Pettersson. He’s the best young center this team has ever had. I get that fans are impatient from what’s happened in the past, but this is not the time to be impatient. You don’t blow it all up because of a few issues that need to be fixed. That’s a good way of creating another 10 years of going nowhere. The challenges for this team are big, but they’re not insurmountable. If they try to get stuff done at the deadline and in the offseason and still can’t, then I might lean towards a full rebuild. But right now they need to at least try to build around the core. GMs have built winners starting with less than this management group has been given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Anyone who thinks we're getting Pettersson for less than probably 10.5M a season is out of their mind Dude is gonna absolutely get paid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetterssonOrPeterson Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Let's stop this please. It's enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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